General Yu-Gi-Oh! Thread

(Feb. 09, 2011  3:01 AM)Roan Wrote: I love that you keep trying to talk to me about this game like I have no idea what I'm talking about. lol
I don't mean to sound like that and I apologize for sounding like that.
(Feb. 09, 2011  7:58 AM)BlankShot Wrote:
(Feb. 09, 2011  4:41 AM)Daegor42 Wrote: The artwork on Infernitys just sucks.

I liked Infernity Avenger, before they took away his revolvers and gave him water pistols.

I also kinda like how Archfiend looks.
A lot of the TCG art was ruined due to the gun theme from the Crashtown arc in the anime.
I personally liked Destroyer's art.
(Feb. 09, 2011  7:17 AM)桃太郎 Wrote: Well, I'm only trying to raise awareness about Roan's Blog. It does say "locals, YCS, etc..."; it can mean the Blog may be helpful for those who wish to compete at one or all levels of play.

If you're questioning Roan's legitimacy, I can vouch for how helpful he has been. I've been topping at two of my locals for the past three weeks with his help. Vancouver has no YCS here, and I didn't have time to go to Regionals this year.

Anyway, you shouldn't double quote and post, and it's sorta cliched to say the LSS > everything; it's not tier zero.

lol lss is tier zero. its pretty good. topping at locals is good i guess. its a start, what deck do u have?
OK if you're going to do nothing but roll up in this thread and start trolling at every possible opportunity, you and I are going to have a problem real fast.

If there's one thing I can't stand it's arrogant Yu-Gi-Oh players and I won't tolerate the common elitist behavior that goes on among that community on this board. If you want to express your opinion about something, by all means go for it, but at least do it in a respectful, non-condescending manner.
what do u mean. i dont quite understand. can u explain it more. i just hotught that lss was tier zero, ill gladly give u a duel if u want, u use anything just dont make it like a straight counter to SS. dont like instantly tech every jate card in
Necrovally + Cannon Soldier + tunner + Quilbolt = win.

I'm going to put Cannon Soldier in my side deck to counter Grave Keepers.
(Feb. 10, 2011  6:01 AM)Mind Crush! Wrote: lol lss is tier zero. its pretty good. topping at locals is good i guess. its a start, what deck do u have?

By definition, to say a Deck is Tier-Zero means that the Deck has no weakness; someone who is unbiased, please correct me if I have made an error. I am not denying that the Legendary/True Six Samurai Deck will be a formidable Archetype, but with other Archetypes in the meta-game, there are weaknesses to them. Though the Sams may not be able to be stopped so easily, there is a way or ways, and because of that reason, they are not Tier-Zero; perhaps Tier-One.

In fact, I don't think a Tier-Zero Deck exists, as every Deck has a weakness, or perhaps weaknesses.

I run Blackwings, and I'll run them until they've been torn apart by the ban list, and even then, I'll figure something out.

Edit: Here are some pics of my Vayu Mat that I drew on yesterday. I was thinking of drawing Vayu doing different things in each of the card rectangles.

(Feb. 10, 2011  7:45 AM)桃太郎 Wrote:
(Feb. 10, 2011  6:01 AM)Mind Crush! Wrote: lol lss is tier zero. its pretty good. topping at locals is good i guess. its a start, what deck do u have?

By definition, to say a Deck is Tier-Zero means that the Deck has no weakness; someone who is unbiased, please correct me if I have made an error. I am not denying that the Legendary/True Six Samurai Deck will be a formidable Archetype, but with other Archetypes in the meta-game, there are weaknesses to them. Though the Sams may not be able to be stopped so easily, there is a way or ways, and because of that reason, they are not Tier-Zero; perhaps Tier-One.

In fact, I don't think a Tier-Zero Deck exists, as every Deck has a weakness, or perhaps weaknesses.

I run Blackwings.

Edit: Here are some pics of my Vayu Mat that I drew on yesterday. I was thinking of drawing Vayu doing different things in each of the card rectangles.


well i understand about what u say about everything having a weakness, but sometimes the weakness has to be teched into the deck usually, not somehting which exists itself in the deck. well i guess my definition of tier zero isnt something that has no weaknessess but instead can come out with wins against any other decks consistently, kind of like the situation back in the day when attacks can beat defense with like 80% win rate, and what were the weaknesses? or like Libra back then, kind of like that. but yes, LSS is pretty dam broken deck if u ask me, but ofc everything has their weaknesses, if a deck had no weakness, then the winner would be determined by who started ( or could attack first) if u can kinda understand what im saying, because everyone would play the same deck. but konami is always gonna make decks more broken, so eventually LSS wont be all that good anymore lol. and they will jsut ban it Speechless
A tier-zero deck, to be classified as such, has to literally define an entire format. By that I mean the deck has to be so widespread and win so consistently that literally no other decks can defeat it, so everyone has to jump on the bandwagon and play the same deck to even have a chance of winning.

Previous tier-zero decks include: Chaos (Go to hell Chaos Emperor Dragon!) and Tele-DAD.

After playtesting against Legendary Six Samurai for about a month now, and after closely watching the performance of the deck in the OCG, it's pretty obvious that LSS are not a tier-zero deck. Yes, they are doing well and consistently topping, but they aren't doing so in such a way that it's become problematic and almost impossible for any other deck to win.

EDIT: I've been thinking about opening up a forum for Roan's Pro YGO. Hit the blog for more details! http://bit.ly/i7REfs
T^T Tonight's tournament record:

BW's vs. LSS = 2-0 for LSS
BW's vs. Morphing Jar OTK = 2-0 for MJ
BW's vs. Machina Gadget = 2-0 for BW's
BW's vs. Nordic Gods = 2-0 for Nordics

Morphing Jar OTK was insane; I decked out twice. He kept spamming Book of Moon and Taiyou, and other cards to keep flipping his Morphing Jar over and over.....
Ouch, that sucks man. I can't say I'm that surprised about your loss to LSS, that's sort of to be expected, but you shouldn't have had THAT hard of a time with the Morphing Jar deck.
I opened with only Monsters in both rounds; I couldn't do anything. I even Mained my NoC's, but they never came up. I'm not giving up on my BW's though. Until they literally become unplayable, I won't cross over to another Deck yet.

On a happier note, my Vayu mat scored quite a bit affection by the other players. =P People weren't able to tell whether it was hand-drawn or done by machine. When I told them I drew the design myself, some people were willing to pay for the mat, as well as future mats I may do. =D
is ycs yugioh champish series
i didnt see it on yugioh card.com
Wow, BW's lost to Morphing Jar OTK, That's almost sad....
Ah well, I just got owned in the first Duel in the final round of a tournament. One second, I had Nitro Warrior, Junk Destroyer, and a Turret Warrior with 4500 atk, the next I had 50 LP, no monsters, and Marauding Captain in my hand. I won the next two, (Thank you Clear Vice Dragon! Darn Obelisk...) but I was pretty embarrassed to lose like that after being undefeated...
Hmm, reading this thread made me want to go back into playing. So I downloaded KCVDS but find it really difficult to find a game.
(Feb. 10, 2011  6:55 AM)Nano Wrote: Necrovally + Cannon Soldier + tuner + Quilbolt = win.

I'm going to put Cannon Soldier in my side deck to counter Grave Keepers.

Definitely. I just tried out a Quillbolt Loop OTK deck, and it is epic! Add Mass Driver, Dark Strike Fighter, and maybe a few Marauding Captains to get out the Tuner and Cannon Soldier out faster.
(Feb. 11, 2011  7:23 PM)BFireblaze 6509 Wrote: Wow, BW's lost to Morphing Jar OTK, That's almost sad....

I'm sorry to all the Blackwing players here... T^T Opening with Blizzard, Blizzard, Sirocco, Dark Armed and Bora doesn't help.....
I might get a tournament winning Destiny Hero deck soon! I might trade a Black Luster Soldier GLDN, Enemy Controller GLDN, and 2 Black Luster Soldiers. The deck has won multiple tournaments. One of those was a win a box. CAN'T WAIT TO GET IT!
Why are the new god cards are so bad at being good cards?


P.S. On my ds yugioh game they're still targeted by spell and trap cards WHY?
Pull Obelisk, I dare you! I Clear Vice Dragon you for 4000 damage!
(Feb. 12, 2011  1:23 AM)Nano Wrote: I might get a tournament winning Destiny Hero deck soon! I might trade a Black Luster Soldier GLDN, Enemy Controller GLDN, and 2 Black Luster Soldiers. The deck has won multiple tournaments. One of those was a win a box. CAN'T WAIT TO GET IT!
Good for you! But, don't forget what Roan has written several times over several pages. If I used Roan's deck against him, I'd lose. I have less experience with the deck. It's like the "Copycat" episodes of GX. But, if you get good with the deck, then you should be able to get the same results! Hop to it!
(Feb. 12, 2011  3:31 AM)E-Herosrule Wrote: Why are the new god cards are so bad at being good cards?


P.S. On my ds yugioh game they're still targeted by spell and trap cards WHY?

That's probably because some spell and trap cards don't technically target, like Smashing Ground and Bottomless Trap Hole, etc.
Darn! That means I got wiped for nothing! I gotta check these things before every tournament.
(Feb. 12, 2011  4:28 AM)Odin Wrote: Good for you! But, don't forget what Roan has written several times over several pages. If I used Roan's deck against him, I'd lose. I have less experience with the deck. It's like the "Copycat" episodes of GX. But, if you get good with the deck, then you should be able to get the same results! Hop to it!

He's going to teach me how to use it. That is if I get it. Lets hope so!
I finished! I spent every hour that I wasn't cleaning up, or watching Haruhi on this deck, and I finished. Basically, the same deck that I posted a few days ago in the deck thread, but I added some backup cavalry in case something goes wrong, and I can't synchro summon. Clear Vice Dragon is such cavalry. Plus, Clear World. So helpful. And annoying to Dark users! I pack a few Negate Attack, Sakuretsu, Dimensional Prison, and a Mirror Force to protect it. Having two Marauding Captains help.