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General Hasbro BEYBLADE:Metal Fury/Shogun Steel/Beyblades Legends -FALL 2014 [HOBBY]

Dec. 01, 2014  10:27 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  10:18 PM)tacketts7 Wrote: Unfortunately, I do not find Zankye's news to be a big surprise. With the poor showing from Beywheelz, the glut of Shogun Steel product so many stores still have rotting on pegs in the US, and the flop of Beyraiderz, it would seem that retailers have substantially lost confidence in the brand. I know that my kids and I tapped-out when Hasbro kicked Beyblade to the curb in exchange for Beywheelz. Shogun Steel did nothing to recapture our interest. It wasn't until we saw the Beyblade Legends Hyperblades on pegs that we started paying attention again. Finding Takara Tomy stuff on Amazon really fanned the flame, and we've all been enjoying playing again. The fact that Legends will be a short-lived swansong is unfortunate, just as our interest began heating-up. Oh well.

-Cincinnati, OH

Just watched the video. Well, that's pretty dissapoitning. I was at least hoping we'd get the remaining
Hyperblades.

Not much logic in Hasbro's marketing if Legends are supposed to be "cleared out by the end of the year", considering they were barely released in the first place.

Doesn't make much sense on Hasbro for seemingly cancelling Cyborg, since the show is airing in Italy. If Zankye does somehow have an inside source, then 2017 isn't very far away, considering it'll be 2015 in a month from today.

I just emailed Hasbro Customer Services and one of the head's of Customer Services, so it will be interesting to see if the replies vary. I will keep everyone updated.
Dec. 01, 2014  10:37 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  10:27 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  10:18 PM)tacketts7 Wrote: Unfortunately, I do not find Zankye's news to be a big surprise. With the poor showing from Beywheelz, the glut of Shogun Steel product so many stores still have rotting on pegs in the US, and the flop of Beyraiderz, it would seem that retailers have substantially lost confidence in the brand. I know that my kids and I tapped-out when Hasbro kicked Beyblade to the curb in exchange for Beywheelz. Shogun Steel did nothing to recapture our interest. It wasn't until we saw the Beyblade Legends Hyperblades on pegs that we started paying attention again. Finding Takara Tomy stuff on Amazon really fanned the flame, and we've all been enjoying playing again. The fact that Legends will be a short-lived swansong is unfortunate, just as our interest began heating-up. Oh well.

-Cincinnati, OH

Just watched the video. Well, that's pretty dissapoitning. I was at least hoping we'd get the remaining
Hyperblades.

Not much logic in Hasbro's marketing if Legends are supposed to be "cleared out by the end of the year", considering they were barely released in the first place.

Doesn't make much sense on Hasbro for seemingly cancelling Cyborg, since the show is airing in Italy. If Zankye does somehow have an inside source, then 2017 isn't very far away, considering it'll be 2015 in a month from today.

What video? *imsodumbfaic*
Dec. 01, 2014  10:42 PM
 
Go to about an hour in:


I just emailed Hasbro Customer Services and one of the head's of Customer Services, so it will be interesting to see if the replies vary. I will keep everyone updated.
Dec. 01, 2014  10:46 PM
 
Oh, the livestream. I was live in that, and won the Portable Stadium with Samurai Ifrit and Theif Phoenix. That news does suck though.
Dec. 01, 2014  10:49 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  10:46 PM)des!re Wrote: Oh, the livestream. I was live in that, and won the Portable Stadium with Samurai Ifrit and Theif Phoenix. That news does suck though.

Not really. If he's right, we can look forward to new Beyblades and a new series in perhaps just a bit over or under 2 years or so.

I'm not exactly worried by this- we still have a bunch of dedicated fans, events, and things occurring on the site. Any one who is worried about the community with this news; just keep your Blader's Spirit high and try to do your part as much as possible.

But, it'd be great if you guys could also attempt to contact customer service via email- if Hasbro sees many folks concerned, we might get a "solid" answer from them sooner.
Dec. 01, 2014  10:52 PM
 
I'll email them if it helps.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:03 PM
 
You know, I think it's cruel irony in the sense that it seemed Legends was doing fairly well.

I think the biggest issue was that Hasbro was running out of things to release and rerelease. I mean, there were really only a few Hyperblades left to put out. They finally realized side series weren't the answer.

Nevertheless, I still give Hasbro props for giving us Legends anyways. They ended the MFB series on a high-note, rather than a side series. I'm happy the franchise can take a bit of a break "mainstream" wise, so it can fully be rejuvenated in 2017.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:06 PM
 
Eh, personally I am not ready for a new series, it would be a pain to order them all, and I order in a very slow slow rate, and rarely, and I would have to keep buying for top tier parts or parts with nice aesthetics and most likely realising there was a better one I could have got and so on and so fourth, ugh...
Dec. 01, 2014  11:10 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  10:49 PM)Leone19 Wrote: Not really. If he's right, we can look forward to new Beyblades and a new series in perhaps just a bit over or under 2 years or so.

Mind filling me in? I'll try and skim through the video a bit, but it's over and hour long, it would be easy to miss the news you're talking about (I'll check the end-ish).

Emailing customer service does nothing. Their role is to solely appease the customer's needs, not to provide press info. If you really want answers, you have to send them a business-style email from a paid email (Anything@Yoursite.com) requesting information or requesting comment. Even if you go through all of that trouble, they could still say that they choose not to comment at this time.

I went through that trouble with Nintendo about a year ago when I was writing for a news site and trying to get my team approved for press access. We succeeded in the end and even got to review some games for free; It took a while of gathering information and we managed to gain a lot of contacts with video game publishers. I imagine the toy industry probably has a similar setup. I'm sure Kai-V could easily get confirmation from whatever it is you're talking about (About to check the video now).

Edit: I should probably have been more clear - There is a specific press email you would have to send your message to, not customer service.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:10 PM
 
I certainly don't give Hasbro credit. If Legends were doing fairly well then why do they not release it in the UK (where I live) or India? I know I keep talking about this but I'm going to repeat myself again because it really is a hassle. Hasbro did this with B-Daman Crossfire and now Beyblade Legends. I am sick of the UK being the odd one out! And all people can complain about is the fact that their prices on Beyblades aren't low enough, at least those people had a way to get Legends without painstakingly ordering.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:14 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:10 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote: I certainly don't give Hasbro credit. If Legends were doing fairly well then why do they not release it in the UK (where I live) or India? I know I keep talking about this but I'm going to repeat myself again because it really is a hassle. Hasbro did this with B-Daman Crossfire and now Beyblade Legends. I am sick of the UK being the odd one out! And all people can complain about is the fact that their prices on Beyblades aren't low enough, at least those people had a way to get Legends without painstakingly ordering.

I understand your frustration, believe me. Ordering via Amazon is not super painstaking, as you describe it, though. It's relatively simple. But, I get if you "can't" order online for whatever reason (no proper cards/parents/etc.), it's certainly an issue for some people.

I think the reason you guys didn't get many recent releases was simply that sales were low in the area. I mean, North America was pretty much Legend's focus, since it's likely that was where the best sales were. It's an simple reason, but it really is a not cool one, haha.

I do give Hasbro props for giving the biggest fanbase area one last "hurrah" before a new series. It makes sense it was not launched everywhere, since they probably figured it would have been a "waste" of money. Again, it's a "bad" answer, but makes sense in a business's mind.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:21 PM
 
Well, to be fair, we saw this day come. Where MFB would come to a haitus outside the WBO and all we can do is keep going for now.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:23 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:21 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: Well, to be fair, we saw this day come. Where MFB would come to a haitus outside the WBO and all we can do is keep going for now.

Well, we just hit over 92,000 members, which is pretty cool, haha.

But in any case, with the Limited (new tests and retesting the false tests) and the possible introduction of 6-player Tournaments, we have a lot to work with. Tongue_out
Dec. 01, 2014  11:28 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:14 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:10 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote: I certainly don't give Hasbro credit. If Legends were doing fairly well then why do they not release it in the UK (where I live) or India? I know I keep talking about this but I'm going to repeat myself again because it really is a hassle. Hasbro did this with B-Daman Crossfire and now Beyblade Legends. I am sick of the UK being the odd one out! And all people can complain about is the fact that their prices on Beyblades aren't low enough, at least those people had a way to get Legends without painstakingly ordering.

I understand your frustration, believe me. Ordering via Amazon is not super painstaking, as you describe it, though. It's relatively simple. But, I get if you "can't" order online for whatever reason (no proper cards/parents/etc.), it's certainly an issue for some people.

I think the reason you guys didn't get many recent releases was simply that sales were low in the area. I mean, North America was pretty much Legend's focus, since it's likely that was where the best sales were. It's an simple reason, but it really is a not cool one, haha.

I do give Hasbro props for giving the biggest fanbase area one last "hurrah" before a new series. It makes sense it was not launched everywhere, since they probably figured it would have been a "waste" of money. Again, it's a "bad" answer, but makes sense in a business's mind.

Ordering is painstaking because it takes a week or longer for the UK (Especially Amazon) just to get a Beyblade product (My friend can order and he told me it took that long. Also, he won't do it for me because his parents). Even if I could order, I shouldn't really have to, don't accuse me for my lack of patience.

Also, about how you said Hasbro can't release it everywhere around the word is understandable, but if you remember B-Daman Crossfire, they released it everywhere in Europe EXCEPT the UK...at this point, I stopped having faith in Hasbro and why should it change now. We aren't second class nor are we aliens...so why is it that Hasbro gives full releases to places like Canada, the US, France, Italy etc...but not the UK?

We didn't even get the second/third wave of Shogun Steel (It had Dragooon, Girago, Genbu, Begirados (my favourite Beyblade, especially how Hasbro has tweaked it so you must understand how nasty I got when I didn't get it) etc) so I was extremely disappointed as a Beyblade fan and all people could complain about is the lack of releases for Wyvang and Balro.

I have tried emailing Hasbro and all they did was recommend me with Nerf and Transformers and I really don't care about those products as I was more into Beyblade and B-Daman and look at what they did there...They might as well have shot me in the stomach and took my money whilst taunting me. I gave Hasbro too many chances and now I just don't know if I can give anymore chances.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:31 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:23 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:21 PM)JinbeeTheShark Wrote: Well, to be fair, we saw this day come. Where MFB would come to a haitus outside the WBO and all we can do is keep going for now.

Well, we just hit over 92,000 members, which is pretty cool, haha.

But in any case, with the Limited (new tests and retesting the false tests) and the possible introduction of 6-player Tournaments, we have a lot to work with. Tongue_out

92000? Wow, this site has ran for about 7 years and I estimate the average is definitely way over 1 member a day.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:32 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:28 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:14 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:10 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote: I certainly don't give Hasbro credit. If Legends were doing fairly well then why do they not release it in the UK (where I live) or India? I know I keep talking about this but I'm going to repeat myself again because it really is a hassle. Hasbro did this with B-Daman Crossfire and now Beyblade Legends. I am sick of the UK being the odd one out! And all people can complain about is the fact that their prices on Beyblades aren't low enough, at least those people had a way to get Legends without painstakingly ordering.

I understand your frustration, believe me. Ordering via Amazon is not super painstaking, as you describe it, though. It's relatively simple. But, I get if you "can't" order online for whatever reason (no proper cards/parents/etc.), it's certainly an issue for some people.

I think the reason you guys didn't get many recent releases was simply that sales were low in the area. I mean, North America was pretty much Legend's focus, since it's likely that was where the best sales were. It's an simple reason, but it really is a not cool one, haha.

I do give Hasbro props for giving the biggest fanbase area one last "hurrah" before a new series. It makes sense it was not launched everywhere, since they probably figured it would have been a "waste" of money. Again, it's a "bad" answer, but makes sense in a business's mind.

Ordering is painstaking because it takes a week or longer for the UK (Especially Amazon).

Also, about how you said Hasbro can't release it everywhere around the word is understandable, but if you remember B-Daman Crossfire, they released it everywhere in Europe EXCEPT the UK...at this point, I stopped having faith in Hasbro and why should it change now. We aren't second class nor are we aliens...so why is it that Hasbro gives full releases to places like Canada, the US, France, Italy etc...but not the UK?

We didn't even get the second/third wave of Shogun Steel (It had Dragooon, Girago, Genbu, Begirados (my favourite Beyblade, especially how Hasbro has tweaked it so you must understand how nasty I got when I didn't get it) etc) so I was extremely disappointed as a Beyblade fan and all people could complain about is the lack of releases for Wyvang and Balro.

I have tried emailing Hasbro and all they did was recommend me with Nerf and Transformers and I really don't care about those products as I was more into Beyblade and B-Daman and look at what they did there...They might as well have shot me in the stomach and took my money whilst taunting me. I gave Hasbro too many chances and now I just don't know if I can give anymore chances.

Well we're talking about Beyblade, not B-Daman. The U.S. releases were pretty much scrapped after half of Wave II was out, so not too much was missed there. It's possible Hasbro linked Beyblade's lack of sales in the UK to thinking B-Daman, another Boy's Action Toy, might not do too well and be worth investing in. They were right, since the line tanked, so I can't comment too much more to that.

Literally I don't understand the issue with waiting for a package. There's expedited shipping, too. I mean, as long as we get the toy in the end, it's not that big of a deal to wait a few days, is it?
Dec. 01, 2014  11:39 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:32 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:28 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:14 PM)Leone19 Wrote: I understand your frustration, believe me. Ordering via Amazon is not super painstaking, as you describe it, though. It's relatively simple. But, I get if you "can't" order online for whatever reason (no proper cards/parents/etc.), it's certainly an issue for some people.

I think the reason you guys didn't get many recent releases was simply that sales were low in the area. I mean, North America was pretty much Legend's focus, since it's likely that was where the best sales were. It's an simple reason, but it really is a not cool one, haha.

I do give Hasbro props for giving the biggest fanbase area one last "hurrah" before a new series. It makes sense it was not launched everywhere, since they probably figured it would have been a "waste" of money. Again, it's a "bad" answer, but makes sense in a business's mind.

Ordering is painstaking because it takes a week or longer for the UK (Especially Amazon).

Also, about how you said Hasbro can't release it everywhere around the word is understandable, but if you remember B-Daman Crossfire, they released it everywhere in Europe EXCEPT the UK...at this point, I stopped having faith in Hasbro and why should it change now. We aren't second class nor are we aliens...so why is it that Hasbro gives full releases to places like Canada, the US, France, Italy etc...but not the UK?

We didn't even get the second/third wave of Shogun Steel (It had Dragooon, Girago, Genbu, Begirados (my favourite Beyblade, especially how Hasbro has tweaked it so you must understand how nasty I got when I didn't get it) etc) so I was extremely disappointed as a Beyblade fan and all people could complain about is the lack of releases for Wyvang and Balro.

I have tried emailing Hasbro and all they did was recommend me with Nerf and Transformers and I really don't care about those products as I was more into Beyblade and B-Daman and look at what they did there...They might as well have shot me in the stomach and took my money whilst taunting me. I gave Hasbro too many chances and now I just don't know if I can give anymore chances.

Well we're talking about Beyblade, not B-Daman. The U.S. releases were pretty much scrapped after half of Wave II was out, so not too much was missed there. It's possible Hasbro linked Beyblade's lack of sales in the UK to thinking B-Daman, another Boy's Action Toy, might not do too well and be worth investing in. They were right, since the line tanked, so I can't comment too much more to that.

Literally I don't understand the issue with waiting for a package. There's expedited shipping, too. I mean, as long as we get the toy in the end, it's not that big of a deal to wait a few days, is it?

I know we weren't talking about B-Daman but I was giving an example of how Hasbro ignored the UK.

I also heard that ordering will take a month at the most. I have to wait for one week or two just to get a toy then yes, I'm allowed to critique...just saying. Lets also take in to consideration that the prices might be higher or that the delivery somehow fails.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:43 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:39 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:32 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:28 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote: Ordering is painstaking because it takes a week or longer for the UK (Especially Amazon).

Also, about how you said Hasbro can't release it everywhere around the word is understandable, but if you remember B-Daman Crossfire, they released it everywhere in Europe EXCEPT the UK...at this point, I stopped having faith in Hasbro and why should it change now. We aren't second class nor are we aliens...so why is it that Hasbro gives full releases to places like Canada, the US, France, Italy etc...but not the UK?

We didn't even get the second/third wave of Shogun Steel (It had Dragooon, Girago, Genbu, Begirados (my favourite Beyblade, especially how Hasbro has tweaked it so you must understand how nasty I got when I didn't get it) etc) so I was extremely disappointed as a Beyblade fan and all people could complain about is the lack of releases for Wyvang and Balro.

I have tried emailing Hasbro and all they did was recommend me with Nerf and Transformers and I really don't care about those products as I was more into Beyblade and B-Daman and look at what they did there...They might as well have shot me in the stomach and took my money whilst taunting me. I gave Hasbro too many chances and now I just don't know if I can give anymore chances.

Well we're talking about Beyblade, not B-Daman. The U.S. releases were pretty much scrapped after half of Wave II was out, so not too much was missed there. It's possible Hasbro linked Beyblade's lack of sales in the UK to thinking B-Daman, another Boy's Action Toy, might not do too well and be worth investing in. They were right, since the line tanked, so I can't comment too much more to that.

Literally I don't understand the issue with waiting for a package. There's expedited shipping, too. I mean, as long as we get the toy in the end, it's not that big of a deal to wait a few days, is it?

I know we weren't talking about B-Daman but I was giving an example of how Hasbro ignored the UK.

I also heard that ordering will take a month at the most. I have to wait for one week or two just to get a toy then yes, I'm allowed to critique...just saying. Lets also take in to consideration that the prices might be higher or that the delivery somehow fails.

Either way, it's exaggerating. That could be like saying why mail my friend a package, since the delivery may fail.

In any case, it is a shame Hasbro elected to ignore certain regions, but to an extent, it's understandable on a business point of view.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:49 PM
 
So it's not OK for me to get upset about Hasbro ignoring the UK but it's okay for people to complain about prices? I'm not changing my mind about Hasbro and nobody can change my mind. I also don't care about Nerf or Transformers so that narrows it for me. No one understands how I feel about this because they aren't as lackluster for Beyblade products as the UK is.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:51 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:49 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote: So it's not OK for me to get upset about Hasbro ignoring the UK but it's okay for people to complain about prices? I'm not changing my mind about Hasbro and nobody can change my mind. I also don't care about Nerf or Transformers so that narrows it for me. No one understands how I feel about this because they aren't as lackluster for Beyblade products as the UK is.

I'm not sure what price complaining you are talking about, haha.

This is kinda getting off topic, but to add- no one said you couldn't complain. But, there are a few reasons to counter your arguments. Nothing more than that, really.
Dec. 01, 2014  11:53 PM
 
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:51 PM)Leone19 Wrote:
(Dec. 01, 2014  11:49 PM)~Pharmist~ Wrote: So it's not OK for me to get upset about Hasbro ignoring the UK but it's okay for people to complain about prices? I'm not changing my mind about Hasbro and nobody can change my mind. I also don't care about Nerf or Transformers so that narrows it for me. No one understands how I feel about this because they aren't as lackluster for Beyblade products as the UK is.

I'm not sure what price complaining you are talking about, haha.

This is kinda getting off topic, but to add- no one said you couldn't complain. But, there are a few reasons to counter your arguments. Nothing more than that, really.

When I said people complain about prices, I mean they compain their Beyblades aren't $5 or something like that.
Dec. 02, 2014  6:08 AM
 
(Nov. 30, 2014  5:20 PM)Kai-V Wrote: What I realised this morning was that the only promotional output for Beyblade Legends was ... zankye.

Let me make it clear that we at Zankye Youtube channel were the ones that try to get any Info regarding anything new, wasn't Hasbro who come to us and asked us to promote there product, we were the ones that asked via first a PR from Hasbro and after a different source if they could get us anything relating to newer stuff, and for our surprise before we 're going to the first leg of our world tour 2014 ,1 complete set and another incomplete (6) of beyblade legends arrived. We want it to bring the news to anything new and for that we "fight" for. If ask us if we are disappointed , yes we are, this was a short journey, we thought maybe that they would do all the Zero G that they we're never released and where the molds were done for zero g random Booster 4 and never release and few more. From our side we still are continuing on..........
Dec. 02, 2014  4:27 PM
 
Damn, so Hasbro was not even the one who approached you; you had to approach them and fight for those new products ? Well, awesome news : they had no marketing plan for Beyblade Legends at all, it seems ...

By the way, just to clarify anything that may have been misunderstood : in no way did I mean any offense or disrespect to you or at the Zankye Youtube Channel with my last messages. I did not mention you to make it seem degrading or like your channel was nothing; it was really just to highlight the fact that it was not nearly enough promotion, and now you make us learn that it was not even a planned media output. I have no idea if you understood my post like that, but I just wanted to make sure we were OK hah.
Dec. 02, 2014  5:26 PM
 
We did understand but we had to explain that everything that was done in our channel so far was with all our own effort, yes we did get via a third party that request from Hasbro the Legends, in the past the same source in the same method provided us some 2 pack Beywarriors and a few 3 packs shogun steel, after we had already unboxed them and review, but only because we ask for not because they saw any exposure we were giving to them. Just on separate note, we went to New York Toy Fair 2013, but because we didn't know that had a private show in a separate place (hotel) we went to that location and Hasbro (whatever was at the door) refuse our entry , even when we explain who were we.

So nothing surprises us. As we mention to you before ,we can gladly sponsor in terms of prizes any of your tournaments, as long we are In town. Let's keep the bey spirit and we are here to stay.
Dec. 05, 2014  4:43 AM
 
my toys r us dosent even sell beys anymore
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