General Hasbro BEYBLADE:Metal Fury/Shogun Steel/Beyblades Legends -FALL 2014 [HOBBY]

(Dec. 19, 2012  3:41 AM)GladiatorGaruda Wrote:
(Dec. 18, 2012  10:34 AM)aurawolf Wrote: im starting to see spark fx in southern California know and i got it on sale for about six dollars in wall-mart hehe but the hasbro l-drago guardian rubber seems alot softer than my takara tomy version and for some reason for the modes they labeled absorb mode as stamina mode and put some weird altered version of lightning l-drago as an example for l-drago guardian on the instructions and as you would expect the metal wheel is hollowed out

I've heard that they did that to some of the Hyperblades as well. Im not positive, but possibly Diablo Nemesis doesn't have correct mode changing instructions. If you can, could you post a picture of the instructions? I'd love to see what nonsense Hasbro has done this time

Plus, I've heard that Hasbro's Balance Mode is different.
No, from what I remember of what Kain_Highwind told me, the actual mode on the Beyblade is exactly the same, you are able to make it without a problem, but the way it is illustrated in the instruction booklet is completely wrong : it is just the Metal Frame upright rotated horizontally slightly.
(Dec. 19, 2012  3:57 AM)Kai-V Wrote: No, from what I remember of what Kain_Highwind told me, the actual mode on the Beyblade is exactly the same, you are able to make it without a problem, but the way it is illustrated in the instruction booklet is completely wrong : it is just the Metal Frame upright rotated horizontally slightly.

Ok, thanks Kai-V. Thanks for clearing that up, because I was thinking of not getting Diablo Nemesis Hyperblade.
(Dec. 19, 2012  3:57 AM)Kai-V Wrote: No, from what I remember of what Kain_Highwind told me, the actual mode on the Beyblade is exactly the same, you are able to make it without a problem, but the way it is illustrated in the instruction booklet is completely wrong : it is just the Metal Frame upright rotated horizontally slightly.

Seems I put my words together wrong, I did mean only the instructions. Sorry for the misunderstanding
Unboxing of Hyper Strike Battle set:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4-LhoDm9E4
I picked up the Hyperblade Omega Dragonis yesterday. The instructions list 2 modes, attack mode and smash attack mode. Based on the pictures in the instructions, what Hasbro has listed as Attack mode is actually Barrage mode, and what they have listed as Smash Attack mode is actually Assalt mode (based on beywiki).

I unfortunately do not have a TT Omega Dragonis but here are my weights compared with the weights on Beywiki:

TT Omega Dragonis (based on Beywiki)
Metal Frame: 12.53g
Core: 25.30g
Total Metal Wheel: 37.83g
Dragonis: 2.87g

Hyperblade Omega Dragonis (my weights)
Metal Frame: 12.43g
Core: 25.35g
Total Metal Wheel: 37.78g
Dragonis: 2.72g

Same as Flash and Diablo, there is no visual difference between the Hyperblade and the TT Omega.
(Dec. 19, 2012  8:16 PM)Kain_Highwind Wrote: I picked up the Hyperblade Omega Dragonis yesterday. The instructions list 2 modes, attack mode and smash attack mode. Based on the pictures in the instructions, what Hasbro has listed as Attack mode is actually Barrage mode, and what they have listed as Smash Attack mode is actually Assalt mode (based on beywiki).

I unfortunately do not have a TT Omega Dragonis but here are my weights compared with the weights on Beywiki:

TT Omega Dragonis (based on Beywiki)
Metal Frame: 12.53g
Core: 25.30g
Total Metal Wheel: 37.83g
Dragonis: 2.87g

Hyperblade Omega Dragonis (my weights)
Metal Frame: 12.43g
Core: 25.35g
Total Metal Wheel: 37.78g
Dragonis: 2.72g

Same as Flash and Diablo, there is no visual difference between the Hyperblade and the TT Omega.

Interesting,so it looks like Hyperblade Omega Dragonis MW is a tiny bit more heavy than TT.If you were to put a TT Metal Frame and a Hasbro Core,it would probably weigh 37.88 G.
I can pretty much guarantee the paint is what's making it heavier.
(Dec. 20, 2012  12:12 AM)BeybladePants11 Wrote: Interesting,so it looks like Hyperblade Omega Dragonis MW is a tiny bit more heavy than TT.If you were to put a TT Metal Frame and a Hasbro Core,it would probably weigh 37.88 G.

What ? Look again, all the TAKARA-TOMY weights from Beywiki are higher than Kain_Highwind's weights from the Hasbro Omega Dragonis. No conclusion can be done for certain at this point, but your statement would definitely need to be reversed.
Adding to Kai-V, painted or not, most 4D Metal Wheels have inconsistent weights anyway.

Edit: INCONSISTANCYBRANDDOESNOTREALLYMATTER====V
Those weights are definitely within an accepted field of error for measurements, which would mean they are essentially the same weight, but if you really want to go by the numbers like BeybladePants11 did, then TAKARA-TOMY's weights are all slightly higher ...
(Dec. 20, 2012  3:14 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Those weights are definitely within an accepted field of error for measurements, which would mean they are essentially the same weight, but if you really want to go by the numbers like BeybladePants11 did, then TAKARA-TOMY's weights are all slightly higher ...

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Come on, you're smart enough to know that "within the margin of error" means "there may as well be no difference based on these results", especially when two different scales are being used... Concluding ANYTHING from them is absolutely irresponsible. The first part of your post is not an adequate disclaimer, either, the way you have written it implies that "going by the numbers" is in some way a valid method of analysis, which it absolutely isn't.

To everyone: At this point in time, there is as good as no difference in anything we have weights for, and until we have a suitable number of samples of both brands by people who have both, we won't be able to draw anything unless there is an extremely dramatic difference, which would almost certainly be easy to spot through decent visual inspection.
(Dec. 20, 2012  3:21 AM)th!nk Wrote: ...

Come on, you're smart enough to know that "within the margin of error" means "there may as well be no difference based on these results", especially when two different scales are being used... Concluding ANYTHING from them is absolutely irresponsible. The first part of your post is not an adequate disclaimer, either, the way you have written it implies that "going by the numbers" is in some way a valid method of analysis, which it absolutely isn't.

To everyone: At this point in time, there is as good as no difference in anything we have weights for, and until we have a suitable number of samples of both brands by people who have both, we won't be able to draw anything unless there is an extremely dramatic difference, which would almost certainly be easy to spot through decent visual inspection.

Seriously, you are not reading my replies thoroughly at all. Did you even read BeybladePants11's comment ? On this subject, I am specifically and clearly saying that the numbers are essentially the same and I am just adding that BeybladePants11's statement is wrong because IF you just look at the numbers blindly without any context, the TAKARA-TOMY sets are slightly higher than the Hasbro ones. He must have read the company names wrong, that is all.
Yes, I read his comment and it was already thoroughly addressed before the highly misleading second part of your post. You know full well how easily people latch onto any brand difference even if it is non-existent, this is something that requires much more care be put into posts to avoid the same hassles we've had to deal with in the past.
(Dec. 20, 2012  6:20 AM)th!nk Wrote: Yes, I read his comment and it was already thoroughly addressed before the highly misleading second part of your post. You know full well how easily people latch onto any brand difference even if it is non-existent, this is something that requires much more care be put into posts to avoid the same hassles we've had to deal with in the past.

You and I agree here, you are making an issue out of nothing, I assure you.
Can't wait for Beyblade Shogun Steel! I hope Hasbro doesn't ruin Zero-G for us.



Those pictures have been posted a billion times, i dont think they're needed.
(Dec. 21, 2012  6:22 PM)Curious George Wrote: Those pictures have been posted a billion times, i dont think they're needed.

Ok.Thanks,I have now removed the pictures.
I'm not sure if anyone has showed a video of an unboxing for L-Drago Destructor F:S,but here is the video:


The MW and Core don't look half bad IMO.
(Dec. 16, 2012  7:33 PM)Ryuujin Σ Wrote:
(Dec. 16, 2012  7:30 PM)Ninjaman60 Wrote:
(Dec. 16, 2012  7:26 PM)Ryuujin Σ Wrote: I'd go to Walmart if I were you, if there's one nearby.
My Walmart had some Hyperblades and some Hyper Strike sets. Problem is, I went to Target first and there weren't any. Because of that, I just got a Nightmare Rex and a Dracco Spin.(I should have went to Walmart first...)

I go to my nearby Walmart all the time but they have nothing usually. I don't get it though. They usually have lame ones like 2 packs or stuff like that. But when I go to Target I see all that I need because they usually stock up unlike the Walmart I am use to.

Well, Walmart finally stocked up now. It probably has something to do with Christmas, I believe.
You were right, they had Hyper Blades. I was surprised really, usually Walmart has nothing but they had some stuff.
Hopefully we can do more than just savor the distribution, and they actually keep it up.
(Dec. 22, 2012  4:11 AM)Just That Guy Wrote: Hopefully we can do more than just savor the distribution, and they actually keep it up.

Agreed, they need to stock up more but it's just for Christmas, after Christmas it will go down again and there will be nothing in Walmart until the next Christmas probably.
Well I got a Hyperblade, Diablo Nemesis. My first actual 4D.

You can't disagree that this looks more "heroic" than the original color scheme...
YES! My local Walmart just got some Hyperblades! Grin I just picked up Omega Dragonis, Diablo Nemesis, Kreis Cygnus, and Flash Saggitario. I can't wait to try them out!

I guess the colors aren't too bad IMO, but I think that the TT originals looked better.
I just got Omega Dragonis! It's not that bad, but I had to switch the 85 track with a CH120 due to scraping.