I am limited to a Lightning Force Stadium and a broken Japanese G-Rev stadium. Can someone test the Sagittario wheel for destabilizing?

I'll try this in a week or so when i'm home but I doubt it will do well. The wheels commonly used as used destabilisers wheel are stamina wheel with little recoil. Saggitario has lots of recoil but i'll see how it does.

xXKaiouyaXx: I think it does too. I remember some testing done where it got good results as a destabiliser. Wish I owned one.

Here's some things I want testing on:

Burn testing. It got pretty much exactly the same results as Flame does when I tested it.
More testing for WB since it gets very good results in Storm ____ 100WB.
Thermal testing. I think it has potential. Gonna have to rely on others for this since I don't own one.
Bakushin. Another one feel has a lot of potential cause it stamina tests it lost against Earth but won against Burn. It's possible that it destabilised burn and that's how it won. Same with thermal since I don't own one.

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I'll do some burn destabilizer testing, and I was the one who did all the thermal testing a while back... Anyways, what combo do you prefer I test burn against? Earth Bull AS145WD sound good?

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No it sucks. AS145 isn't a good part to use. Test against top tier defence and stamina please for both Thermal and Burn if you can.

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Especially since AS145 does not exist. What a bad part to use.

Oh you know that one track? AMAZING STAMINA 145 height? It's the newest fad! It has a ring of free-spinning metal all the way around? Provides Great defense and stamina and totally outclasses 230? Jk, I meat AD145 =P I love how when you make a mistake on WBO everyone gets on your case.

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No it sucks. AS145 isn't a good part to use.

I love how you act like you knew what the track was, even though it doesn't exist... No offense.

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Jk, I meat AD145 =P I love how when you make a mistake on WBO everyone gets on your case.

lol.

BTW, I'm finding more and more that my Sagittario proposal isn't too useful, as it will often push itself down.

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Collection (Revised 1/30/11) (Click to View)

Earth (Mold 2) Virgo GB145BS,
Dark Bull H145SD,
Flame Sagittario C145S,
Burn (Mold 1) Phoenix 135MS,
Thermal Pisces T125ES,
Storm Pegasis 105RF x2,
Lightning LDrago 100HF x2,
Ray (Mold 1) Unicorno D125CS,
Galaxy Pegasis W105R2F,
Gravity Perseus AD145WD,
Dark Cancer CH120FS,
Dark Wolf DF145FS,
Rock Escolpio T125JB,
Pegasis 145D,
Sagittario 125SF,
Metal Face Custom Ver. Orange

Combos (Click to View)

Defense: MF-H Earth Pegasis II GB145CS
Stamina: Burn Bull AD145/100WD
Attack: Pegasis 145RF, Lightning LDrago CH120RF, Gravity Perseus D125R2F

Secret (Click to View)

Oily, how is plastic made oily?

Jk, I meat AD145 =P I love how when you make a mistake on WBO everyone gets on your case.

lol.

BTW, I'm finding more and more that my Sagittario proposal isn't too useful, as it will often push itself down.

The recoil occurs on all sides, like I said. But speaking of horoscope series, what of pre-HWS bull for destabilizing other beys?

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-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

No it sucks. AS145 isn't a good part to use.

I love how you act like you knew what the track was, even though it doesn't exist... No offense.

I thought he was talking about Sol Blaze's track which is not good for stamina I don't think. I forgot it's name and assumed that's what he was talking about.

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LOL I thought you were serious as well, V145 is the Sol blaze track, and it does fail at Stamina.
@Countdoodoo: I did that just to see if anyone would notice. I like meat. =P

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No it sucks. AS145 isn't a good part to use.

I love how you act like you knew what the track was, even though it doesn't exist... No offense.

I thought he was talking about Sol Blaze's track which is not good for stamina I don't think. I forgot it's name and assumed that's what he was talking about.

oh, ok. But what of using bull, seeing as how countdudoo wanted to test saggitario, for destabilization? It looks to be good.

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"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist can come from anywhere."

-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

From the Beywiki:
Quetzalcoatl, but more so Bull, appear to have impressive Upper Attack slopes, but in reality; as with most MFB Wheels, they do not exhibit Upper Attack in battle.

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Collection (Revised 1/30/11) (Click to View)

Earth (Mold 2) Virgo GB145BS,
Dark Bull H145SD,
Flame Sagittario C145S,
Burn (Mold 1) Phoenix 135MS,
Thermal Pisces T125ES,
Storm Pegasis 105RF x2,
Lightning LDrago 100HF x2,
Ray (Mold 1) Unicorno D125CS,
Galaxy Pegasis W105R2F,
Gravity Perseus AD145WD,
Dark Cancer CH120FS,
Dark Wolf DF145FS,
Rock Escolpio T125JB,
Pegasis 145D,
Sagittario 125SF,
Metal Face Custom Ver. Orange

Combos (Click to View)

Defense: MF-H Earth Pegasis II GB145CS
Stamina: Burn Bull AD145/100WD
Attack: Pegasis 145RF, Lightning LDrago CH120RF, Gravity Perseus D125R2F

Secret (Click to View)

Oily, how is plastic made oily?

I'm sorry to say, that burn had a horrible win rate against Earth Bull AD145WD. I did thirty tests...

Earth Bull AD145WD-7 (Against WB) 10 (Against FS) 6 (Against SF) 5- 22 Total wins.

Burn cancer 100WB(3 wins) /FS (0 wins)/SF (5 wins)- 8 Total wins.

Burn Win Rate: 37.5%

The burn wheel has no real push upwards against blades higher then it, and the wheel covers most of the clear wheel causing the destabilizing abilities of cancer to null, sad results really.....

I was starting my thermal testing when my string launcher decided it hated me* and died. (the screw sockets stripped on launch)

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Okay thanks. I'll put them up when I have time.

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Just tested out Ricko's Storm 100WB combo. Don't have a clue how he got such good results cause the ones I got are awful. I'm gonna remove his results.

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Im going to test pegasis II clear wheel, unicorno clear wheel, and pegasis.

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I'm Batman.

Im going to test pegasis II clear wheel, unicorno clear wheel, and pegasis.

I've been asking for that for a month
And now you think it was your idea. Great. But I would like to see the results.
Sorry. I'm in a carpy mood right now.

Has anyone ever used the Pegasis II or Pegasis clear wheel for this? it looks good, but i cant test. And were still waiting on you bluezee for a vid.

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"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist can come from anywhere."

-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

^Has anyone actually tested this now? Or have some long-forgotten results that they could share?

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"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over those who offer up their work and their selves to our judgment. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the bitter truth we critics must face, is that in the grand scheme of things, the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the new. The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The new needs friends. Last night, I experienced something new: an extraordinary meal from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core. In the past, I have made no secret of my disdain for Chef Gusteau's famous motto, "Anyone can cook." But I realize, only now do I truly understand what he meant. Not everyone can become a great artist; but a great artist can come from anywhere."

-Anton Ego/Peter O'Toole (1932-2013)

Don't think so. Pm shika blade since he said he was gonna do it.

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Ok, so I tested the Thermal wheel (again) and the Ray wheel. I don't know why anyone would want to use Ray, it doesn't deserve to be on any list as a destabilizer. I used Lacerta in the place of Cancer because I get the same results. Here are the results:
Ray Cancer 100SF vs. Burn Bull AD145WD
Ray:2 Earth:8
Ray Win Rate: 20% one round he won was a KO.
Ray Win Rate: 10% through outspin

Thermal Lacerta 100WB vs. Earth Bull AD145WD

Thermal: 10 Earth: 0
Thermal achieved 100% but 2 rounds were KO's the rest were out spin.
Thermal Win Rate: 80% through OS. I think It should be put on the MFB tiers list, at least on the lowest tier for destabilizers until more people try it. I hope the Thermal Pisces Draft doesn't go up until this combo is tested by a few more people.

Also, with Destabilizer-types gaining popularity should Destabilizer vs. Destabilizer tests be done in the future?

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What method did you use for launching the WB combo cause when I tried it totally failed? Anyway thanks for the results.

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I banked on the right side, and launched at 100% power, most of these wins were pure luck though. I'll redo these tests tomorrow with a new WD, the one I was using was pretty worn. I like this combo with WB because with SF, many many KO's ensue to the destabilizer. Did you use the Cancer or Lacerta CW?
Edit: You might also want to make sure the blade is very solid when you put it together, otherwise the win rate will be 0% during my first set of tests I tried, my WB was vibrating to and fro on my 100 track.

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Do you mean by the self KO's with SF just with Thermal? Cause i've never had a destabiliser self KO itself ever.

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I mean there are instances in which Burn KO's the thermal wheel, with the WB I don't have that problem. Sorry about my tests, I said Earth Bull AD145WD when I was testing Thermal against Burn AD145WD, I fixed it though. You're right, if you put thermal against earth with a WB it fails here are the Redone tests:

Earth Bull AD145WD vs. Thermal Cancer 100WB 7-3
Thermal Cancer win rate: 30%

However, when facing earth I use SF because the chance of Earth getting a KO on anything is rare.

Earth Bull AD145WD vs. Thermal Cancer 100SF 5-15
Thermal win rate: 75%

So sorry for that mistake.

EDIT: All tests have been done in a TT attack stadium, with alternate beyblades being launched first with a Beylauncher LR

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uh it still says Earth though? Wow these are good results. Finally some proof that Thermal is good. Guess WB does have some meager ability then.

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