"Build me a Deck!" #2

(Aug. 13, 2019  2:55 PM)beybladeburstrg Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  3:56 AM)Bladerbill Wrote: Than what is a “good” deck in your opinion?

a good deck is

layer base
venom
slash
lord
union
ace

layer weight
zan
restu
metsu

gatinko chip
diabolos
achilles
spriggan
valkryie

performance tip
bullet
charge
power
dimension'

forge disk
blitz
vanguard
sting

But... No...
Slash and Venom are trash. Ace is mediocre. Lord might be decent, and Union isn't out yet.
Just stick with JV or CZ-A. There are non-Gachi parts.
Diabolos and Valkyrie are good. Spriggan and Achilles have no research yet.
Bullet and Dimension' are terrible. Blitz is only good on Judgement.
Sting's good, and Vanguard is only good on Bearing and Rise. Which you didn't list.
(Aug. 13, 2019  5:33 PM)beybladeburstrg Wrote: Slash and venom are not trash!

I bought union on takara tomy.com!

union is also on ebay!

And who is BeymasterLandon?

also...WHO IS FURYWINGSYT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Union Achilles Releases in September so how is there a listing for it right now, can you link the listing?
(Aug. 13, 2019  5:57 PM)RED NINJA 0829 Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  5:33 PM)beybladeburstrg Wrote: Slash and venom are not trash!

I bought union on takara tomy.com!

union is also on ebay!

And who is BeymasterLandon?

also...WHO IS FURYWINGSYT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

Union Achilles Releases in September so how is there a listing for it right now, can you link the listing?

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810134466/

Maybe they are talking about pre-ordering it?
(Aug. 13, 2019  6:03 PM)SilverRaven Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  5:57 PM)RED NINJA 0829 Wrote: Union Achilles Releases in September so how is there a listing for it right now, can you link the listing?

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810134466/

Maybe they are talking about pre-ordering it?

Yeah, but they think it’s a normal release
(Aug. 13, 2019  6:05 PM)Dt20000 Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  6:03 PM)SilverRaven Wrote: https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810134466/

Maybe they are talking about pre-ordering it?

Yeah, but they think it’s a normal release

Oh! I did not realize that's what they meant. Thanks for clarifying.
(Aug. 13, 2019  6:56 AM)Dash Driver Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  6:53 AM)Infinite.Zero Wrote: Change Crash Ragnaruk to Hell Salamander.Sting.Atomic
I’m not really good at making decks...
You'll get better!
(Aug. 14, 2019  12:30 AM)Infinite.Zero Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  6:56 AM)Dash Driver Wrote: I’m not really good at making decks...
You'll get better!
I guess.
(Aug. 14, 2019  11:36 PM)Dash Driver Wrote:
(Aug. 14, 2019  9:07 PM)beybladeburstrg Wrote: You're horrible at making decks!
(Voice dripping with sarcasm) Why thank you, I consider myself to be the worst there is at making decks.
But seriously if you have something mean to say then don’t say it.

It's probably a troll account. Don't feed the troll. lol

Building/making decks takes time and experience with experimentation, observation, and actual testing of combos you (mainly probably me) think are good both aesthetically (which is my main standard for combos) and performance-wise (which I cannot actually control since it is prohibited to paint parts so you would have your individual Bey combos)
(Aug. 13, 2019  5:26 PM)FuryWingsYT Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  2:55 PM)beybladeburstrg Wrote: a good deck is

layer base
venom
slash
lord
union
ace

layer weight
zan
restu
metsu

gatinko chip
diabolos
achilles
spriggan
valkryie

performance tip
bullet
charge
power
dimension'

forge disk
blitz
vanguard
sting

But... No...
Slash and Venom are trash. Ace is mediocre. Lord might be decent, and Union isn't out yet.
Just stick with JV or CZ-A. There are non-Gachi parts.
Diabolos and Valkyrie are good. Spriggan and Achilles have no research yet.
Bullet and Dimension' are terrible. Blitz is only good on Judgement.
Sting's good, and Vanguard is only good on Bearing and Rise. Which you didn't list.

Slash isn't exactly trash imo. Blitz has use in xt+ stamina combos that focus on opposite spin. And dimension' isn't terrible either. It has (niche?) use on zwei, defensive pP combos as far as I know.
(Aug. 15, 2019  10:26 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  5:26 PM)FuryWingsYT Wrote: But... No...
Slash and Venom are trash. Ace is mediocre. Lord might be decent, and Union isn't out yet.
Just stick with JV or CZ-A. There are non-Gachi parts.
Diabolos and Valkyrie are good. Spriggan and Achilles have no research yet.
Bullet and Dimension' are terrible. Blitz is only good on Judgement.
Sting's good, and Vanguard is only good on Bearing and Rise. Which you didn't list.

Slash isn't exactly trash imo. Blitz has use in xt+ stamina combos that focus on opposite spin. And dimension' isn't terrible either. It has (niche?) use on zwei, defensive pP combos as far as I know.

Well I guess since there are better options he(she?) doesn’t consider them usable? I guess this person sees only the meta, and everything else is not worth considering.
(Aug. 15, 2019  10:26 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:
(Aug. 13, 2019  5:26 PM)FuryWingsYT Wrote: But... No...
Slash and Venom are trash. Ace is mediocre. Lord might be decent, and Union isn't out yet.
Just stick with JV or CZ-A. There are non-Gachi parts.
Diabolos and Valkyrie are good. Spriggan and Achilles have no research yet.
Bullet and Dimension' are terrible. Blitz is only good on Judgement.
Sting's good, and Vanguard is only good on Bearing and Rise. Which you didn't list.

Slash isn't exactly trash imo. Blitz has use in xt+ stamina combos that focus on opposite spin. And dimension' isn't terrible either. It has (niche?) use on zwei, defensive pP combos as far as I know.

Your completely right, Slash’s only problem was that it didn’t have the weight to equal it’s recoil. Something like Slash Diabolos and Slash Dragon Goku would definitely solve the problem of Slash being to powerful for its own good.
(Aug. 15, 2019  1:08 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:
(Aug. 15, 2019  10:26 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: Slash isn't exactly trash imo. Blitz has use in xt+ stamina combos that focus on opposite spin. And dimension' isn't terrible either. It has (niche?) use on zwei, defensive pP combos as far as I know.

Your completely right, Slash’s only problem was that it didn’t have the weight to equal it’s recoil. Something like Slash Diabolos and Slash Dragon Goku would definitely solve the problem of Slash being to powerful for its own good.

I think so too (based on the videos that I have seen). Can someone test SD.Blitz.Quick' Goku (or even diabolos over dragon if it doesn't have severe burst issues like before) and JD.Blitz.Quick' vs some meta pP combo? Compare the results of the judgement and slash combos vs each other.
Edit Reason: Forgot to include Layet weight -->
Hey so I’m thinking of revising my deck before an upcoming tournament that I’m going to, here’s what I’ve been using

Zwei Longinus 00Bump Metal Orbit Metsu
Judgement Diabolos 0Glaive Xtreme’
Lord Spriggan Outer Atomic

Any suggestions or changes to make?
(Aug. 16, 2019  5:32 PM)Bladerbill Wrote: Hey so I’m thinking of revising my deck before an upcoming tournament that I’m going to, here’s what I’ve been using

Zwei Longinus 00Bump Metal Orbit
Judgement Diabolos 0Glaive Xtreme’
Lord Spriggan Outer Atomic

Any suggestions or changes to make?

No, I think that's good Grin
(Aug. 16, 2019  5:36 PM)henwooja1 Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2019  5:32 PM)Bladerbill Wrote: Hey so I’m thinking of revising my deck before an upcoming tournament that I’m going to, here’s what I’ve been using

Zwei Longinus 00Bump Metal Orbit
Judgement Diabolos 0Glaive Xtreme’
Lord Spriggan Outer Atomic

Any suggestions or changes to make?

No, I think that's good Grin
Thanks!
Is this 3 deck combo good? I'm getting joker and the flare random booster so this might change.

Hell Salamander.00B.Br
Emperor Forneus.10C.At
Cho-Z Achilles.7G.Ds
I have 2 D's. One has stronger resistance than the other.
(Aug. 19, 2019  6:35 PM)DreamBlade Wrote: Is this 3 deck combo good? I'm getting joker and the flare random booster so this might change.

Hell Salamander.00B.Br
Emperor Forneus.10C.At
Cho-Z Achilles.7G.Ds
I have 2 D's. One has stronger resistance than the other.

Switch bump for wall, turn, or lift.
Switch forneus out for either orb egis or perfect Phoenix
(Aug. 19, 2019  6:45 PM)Hitashi Wrote:
(Aug. 19, 2019  6:35 PM)DreamBlade Wrote: Is this 3 deck combo good? I'm getting joker and the flare random booster so this might change.

Hell Salamander.00B.Br
Emperor Forneus.10C.At
Cho-Z Achilles.7G.Ds
I have 2 D's. One has stronger resistance than the other.

Switch bump for wall, turn, or lift.
Switch forneus out for either orb egis or perfect Phoenix

I don't have wall turn or lift. And I don't have perfect Phoenix or orb eigis. Message me if you want the full part list.
(Aug. 16, 2019  5:32 PM)Bladerbill Wrote: Hey so I’m thinking of revising my deck before an upcoming tournament that I’m going to, here’s what I’ve been using

Zwei Longinus 00Bump Metal Orbit Metsu
Judgement Diabolos 0Glaive Xtreme’
Lord Spriggan Outer Atomic

Any suggestions or changes to make?

swap outer for sting or around
(Aug. 16, 2019  5:32 PM)Bladerbill Wrote: Hey so I’m thinking of revising my deck before an upcoming tournament that I’m going to, here’s what I’ve been using

Zwei Longinus 00Bump Metal Orbit Metsu
Judgement Diabolos 0Glaive Xtreme’
Lord Spriggan Outer Atomic

Any suggestions or changes to make?

If Lord Spriggan is Right Spin, use the Valkyrie Chip instead. If you're going for a Left Spin only Deck, you'll probably be best off using the Longinus Chip on Lord and using Bahamut on Zwei. Also, try Ωcta on Judgement Diabolos and Xtreme' on Zwei Bahamut. Maybe also the Sting Disk on the Lord combo, since Ωuter doesn't prevent the Lord Base from hitting the ground.
(Aug. 20, 2019  12:14 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote:
(Aug. 16, 2019  5:32 PM)Bladerbill Wrote: Hey so I’m thinking of revising my deck before an upcoming tournament that I’m going to, here’s what I’ve been using

Zwei Longinus 00Bump Metal Orbit Metsu
Judgement Diabolos 0Glaive Xtreme’
Lord Spriggan Outer Atomic

Any suggestions or changes to make?

If Lord Spriggan is Right Spin, use the Valkyrie Chip instead. If you're going for a Left Spin only Deck, you'll probably be best off using the Longinus Chip on Lord and using Bahamut on Zwei. Also, try Ωcta on Judgement Diabolos and Xtreme' on Zwei Bahamut. Maybe also the Sting Disk on the Lord combo, since Ωuter doesn't prevent the Lord Base from hitting the ground.
I’ll try those changes out, Thanks Grin
At the moment, the deck I’m gonna try is:

Dread Bahamut Ratchet Rise Gen
Zwei Longinus 00Cross Accel’ Metsu
Lord Fafnir/Dragon 10Glaive Bearing

Any suggestions? I can remake the entire deck if I need to.
(Aug. 20, 2019  12:56 AM)Dash Driver Wrote: At the moment, the deck I’m gonna try is:

Dread Bahamut Ratchet Rise Gen
Zwei Longinus 00Cross Accel’ Metsu
Lord Fafnir/Dragon 10Glaive Bearing

Any suggestions? I can remake the entire deck if I need to.

Switch Bahamut with Fafnir, Gen with Ten (cuz that doesn't really have much added Burst resistance offered, unless you try Blitz instead)

Switch Longinus with Diabolos or Fafnir (with Metsu) since the Dash Driver is kind of overkill. 00Cross is nice, you can also try Sting on it

Switch Fafnir/Dragon back to Spriggan. The Lord Base already has those ridiculously tight Burst resistors, plus Spriggan lets you change between modes without having to bring in a separate Chip. If you won't use Sting with Zwei, you can use it on Lord instead. Switch Glaive with either Lift or Wall since those work well with Bearing
(Aug. 20, 2019  1:11 AM)Rouzuke Wrote:
(Aug. 20, 2019  12:56 AM)Dash Driver Wrote: At the moment, the deck I’m gonna try is:

Dread Bahamut Ratchet Rise Gen
Zwei Longinus 00Cross Accel’ Metsu
Lord Fafnir/Dragon 10Glaive Bearing

Any suggestions? I can remake the entire deck if I need to.

Switch Bahamut with Fafnir, Gen with Ten (cuz that doesn't really have much added Burst resistance offered, unless you try Blitz instead)

Switch Longinus with Diabolos or Fafnir (with Metsu) since the Dash Driver is kind of overkill. 00Cross is nice, you can also try Sting on it

Switch Fafnir/Dragon back to Spriggan. The Lord Base already has those ridiculously tight Burst resistors, plus Spriggan lets you change between modes without having to bring in a separate Chip. If you won't use Sting with Zwei, you can use it on Lord instead. Switch Glaive with either Lift or Wall since those work well with Bearing
Ok then!
(Aug. 20, 2019  1:15 AM)Dash Driver Wrote:
(Aug. 20, 2019  1:11 AM)Rouzuke Wrote: Switch Bahamut with Fafnir, Gen with Ten (cuz that doesn't really have much added Burst resistance offered, unless you try Blitz instead)

Switch Longinus with Diabolos or Fafnir (with Metsu) since the Dash Driver is kind of overkill. 00Cross is nice, you can also try Sting on it

Switch Fafnir/Dragon back to Spriggan. The Lord Base already has those ridiculously tight Burst resistors, plus Spriggan lets you change between modes without having to bring in a separate Chip. If you won't use Sting with Zwei, you can use it on Lord instead. Switch Glaive with either Lift or Wall since those work well with Bearing
Ok then!

Those're my preferences tho. You can also try Around instead of Ratchet.

My personal loadout is:

czS.Outer/10P.Xt+
Sr.00C/G.Ds'/At
LS.Rt/Ar/St/Bl.Br