Beyblade Burst DB Episode #35 (November 19, 2021)

35) The Demon King Leaves the Team?! 
魔王、チーム脱退!? 
Maō, chīmu dattai!? 
Air Date: 2021/11/19
(Nov. 09, 2021  7:37 PM)Cath Wrote: When are we going to see Pain?!

Like Zankye said he'll probably appear in the 40's but if he's coming that late he might not get much Character
Episode review
Phew, Bell didn't backstab the team. he got back slashed by his own avatar. (Get it? Back Slash?) But they still never explain Bel's beef with Rashad. Like what drove Rashad to break Dynamite? What caused the Raphael Avatar to manifest? This is my greatest mystery with DB.
(Nov. 19, 2021  9:09 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: Phew, Bell didn't backstab the team. he got back slashed by his own avatar. (Get it? Back Slash?) But they still never explain Bel's beef with Rashad. Like what drove Rashad to break Dynamite? What caused the Raphael Avatar to manifest? This is my greatest mystery with DB.

Uh  they explained it through actions, Rashad doesn't like Bell as he only sees a cocky arrogant person who doesn't respect others. Bell doesn't like Rashad because of his righteousness. 

Rashad evolved his bey because in that Battle he felt that he had reached his limit with Valkyrie and wanted to be better.
Oh ok.(Its the whole black side white side chalk again, sigh). Also accodring to zankye they're foreshadowing Valkyrie being broken next week becuz of the effects (I think its like the preview when Super Hyperion glowed grey).

(Nov. 19, 2021  9:15 AM)Vtryuga Wrote:
(Nov. 19, 2021  9:09 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: Phew, Bell didn't backstab the team. he got back slashed by his own avatar. (Get it? Back Slash?) But they still never explain Bel's beef with Rashad. Like what drove Rashad to break Dynamite? What caused the Raphael Avatar to manifest? This is my greatest mystery with DB.

Uh  they explained it through actions, Rashad doesn't like Bell as he only sees a cocky arrogant person who doesn't respect others. Bell doesn't like Rashad because of his righteousness. 

Rashad evolved his bey because in that Battle he felt that he had reached his limit with Valkyrie and wanted to be better.

Ok, but what is Ilya's deal again?
You can argue with your Beyblade? That's a new one.
(Nov. 19, 2021  9:42 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: Oh ok.(Its the whole black side white side chalk again, sigh). Also accodring to zankye they're foreshadowing Valkyrie being broken next week becuz of the effects (I think its like the preview when Super Hyperion glowed grey).

(Nov. 19, 2021  9:15 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: Uh  they explained it through actions, Rashad doesn't like Bell as he only sees a cocky arrogant person who doesn't respect others. Bell doesn't like Rashad because of his righteousness. 

Rashad evolved his bey because in that Battle he felt that he had reached his limit with Valkyrie and wanted to be better.

Ok, but what is Ilya's deal again?

Ilya simply left BC Sol to get stronger an order to beat Rashad, she kind sees him as a friendly rival. As to why Ilya has beef with Bell well she doesnt thats just her taking Rashad side (their friends after all),  thats about it
Well they already ruined Ilya in the show. She is a Rashad siding blind fool. She always takes his side in everything that it’s so sad to see her character drop from being interesting to a trash side character.
(Nov. 24, 2021  8:18 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: Well they already ruined Ilya in the show. She is a Rashad siding blind fool. She always takes his side in everything that it’s so sad to see her character drop from being interesting to a trash side character.

Yea for the first burst female she aint as strong as i though she would be. Even an the manga Where she just appear Ilya is just a cheerleader. I think this must be cause of the ifrit situation. As we all know its Apperently a hasbro only bey so it kind of mess Ilya up.
How exactly have they ruined Ilya? She is a pretty strong blader in her own right. Just because she lost to the likes of Lui (directly) and Bell (in a team battle) dont make her weak. She is a pretty unique character in burst; psychologically outwitting her opponents, which I think is a pretty good deal in itself.
You are forgetting that she is going against the Legend bladers as well as Bell and Rashad; both of whom are very strong.

Regarding the fact that she sides with Rashad, isn't it obvious that they are good friends and share a mutual disdain for Bell.
(Nov. 24, 2021  8:38 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:
(Nov. 24, 2021  8:18 PM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: Well they already ruined Ilya in the show. She is a Rashad siding blind fool. She always takes his side in everything that it’s so sad to see her character drop from being interesting to a trash side character.

Yea for the first burst female she aint as strong as i though she would be. Even an the manga Where she just appear Ilya is just a cheerleader. I think this must be cause of the ifrit situation. As we all know its Apperently a hasbro only bey so it kind of mess Ilya up.

She appeared in manga?
(Nov. 25, 2021  4:07 AM)Jhilixie Wrote:
(Nov. 24, 2021  8:38 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: Yea for the first burst female she aint as strong as i though she would be. Even an the manga Where she just appear Ilya is just a cheerleader. I think this must be cause of the ifrit situation. As we all know its Apperently a hasbro only bey so it kind of mess Ilya up.

She appeared in manga?

In the recent chapter for one panel
(Nov. 25, 2021  1:33 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: How exactly have they ruined Ilya? She is a pretty strong blader in her own right. Just because she lost to the likes of Lui (directly) and Bell (in a team battle) dont make her weak. She is a pretty unique character in burst; psychologically outwitting her opponents, which I think is a pretty good deal in itself.  
You are forgetting that she is going against the Legend bladers as well as Bell and Rashad; both of whom are very strong.

Regarding the fact that she sides with Rashad, isn't it obvious that they are good friends and share a mutual disdain for Bell.

Only for her first couple of debut battles has she shown some skills and tricks for winning. Haven't seen anything impressive from her recently. But again, since she teamed up with Rashad and since he's so strong, Ilya and Basara are just incomparable with him. I hope we get more 1v1 battles with her (or any sort of battles really) in the future to convince us that she really is an outstanding and more than just a "female" blader.
(Nov. 25, 2021  4:07 AM)Jhilixie Wrote:
(Nov. 24, 2021  8:38 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: Yea for the first burst female she aint as strong as i though she would be. Even an the manga Where she just appear Ilya is just a cheerleader. I think this must be cause of the ifrit situation. As we all know its Apperently a hasbro only bey so it kind of mess Ilya up.

She appeared in manga?

Yea only a Page Where she's behind Rashad nothing much

(Nov. 25, 2021  1:33 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: How exactly have they ruined Ilya? She is a pretty strong blader in her own right. Just because she lost to the likes of Lui (directly) and Bell (in a team battle) dont make her weak. She is a pretty unique character in burst; psychologically outwitting her opponents, which I think is a pretty good deal in itself.  
You are forgetting that she is going against the Legend bladers as well as Bell and Rashad; both of whom are very strong.

Regarding the fact that she sides with Rashad, isn't it obvious that they are good friends and share a mutual disdain for Bell.
I think you misundstood what some of Us think about her , no one said she's weak (about she's ruined thats only for darker/Flasher no one else think that) . The main complain is her impact isnt something that impressive really. She's is the only main female blader as such she should be more impressive and memorable is she strong yea but nothing that we haven't seen before. What makes her unique is her personality. As for her going with Rashad i dont think anyone complain about that its a no brainer why shes in Rashad side. She should have been writing as the second strongest after Rashad (not counting the legends). And she's not remember she left BC Sol to be comparable to rashad which she isnt at all, rashad being stronger isnt an issue but give her something that will let some us be like wow if Its wasnt for Rashad she wouldve been the best in DB (again not counting the legends). It takes more the a good personality to be a good/great character specially a main female character if that was the only way for a character to be great alot would ve been in fictions. Look at mariah from the OG Now thats an inpressive female who left an impact when people talk about the OG mariah will come up Many times. But unfortunatly Ilya will be talk less by fans.
(Nov. 25, 2021  1:33 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: How exactly have they ruined Ilya? She is a pretty strong blader in her own right. Just because she lost to the likes of Lui (directly) and Bell (in a team battle) dont make her weak. She is a pretty unique character in burst; psychologically outwitting her opponents, which I think is a pretty good deal in itself.
You are forgetting that she is going against the Legend bladers as well as Bell and Rashad; both of whom are very strong.

Regarding the fact that she sides with Rashad, isn't it obvious that they are good friends and share a mutual disdain for Bell.

She’s not smart or unique at all. She’s using her emotions to toy with the characters just like the crab guy from MFB, and you do NOT want to be compared with him. Anyways she is a cheerleader not really much of a friend for anyone. She is really just a complete wast and ruins the potential a female character could have had in the series.
As a female Beyblade fan myself, Im pretty happy to say that I like Ilya the way she is. As stated before, she is a pretty unique and strong character in her own right. Heck, the fact that any of us are debating about her at all tells something — she must be pretty unique enough in order for people to have different interpretations of her, as well as making people discuss about her character. And a character that involves discussion and analysis is always a unique character — they are characters that clearly left an impact on the viewer, unlike stock and background characters who dont have a lot for us to say

And I do admit: its a little obvious that some people are too fixated on the fact that she is a female. Some fans treat Ilya and her flaws, mess-ups, etc. more harshly simply because of her gender. I get it, theres not a lot of major female Bladers in Burst and its reasonable to be concerned about her reception. Its understandable to be worried because you want a positive, lasting impression from a minority character in a series. But some of you are keeping a close eye on her simply because of her gender

I like Ilya the way she is. Although I cant speak for all females, Id like to say that I think shes already unique and memorable in her own right. She is a pretty good female representative in the series — for a Beyblade series that is known for poor characterization and throwaway characters, I might add. I personally like her a lot
(Nov. 26, 2021  1:13 AM)BurningSands Wrote: As a female Beyblade fan myself, Im pretty happy to say that I like Ilya the way she is. As stated before, she is a pretty unique and strong character in her own right. Heck, the fact that any of us are debating about her at all tells something — she must be pretty unique enough in order for people to have different interpretations of her, as well as making people discuss about her character. And a character that involves discussion and analysis is always a unique character — they are characters that clearly left an impact on the viewer, unlike stock and background characters who dont have a lot for us to say

And I do admit: its a little obvious that some people are too fixated on the fact that she is a female. Some fans treat Ilya and her flaws, mess-ups, etc. more harshly simply because of her gender. I get it, theres not a lot of major female Bladers in Burst and its reasonable to be concerned about her reception. Its understandable to be worried because you want a positive, lasting impression from a minority character in a series. But some of you are keeping a close eye on her simply because of her gender

I like Ilya the way she is. Although I cant speak for all females, Id like to say that I think shes already unique and memorable in her own right. She is a pretty good female representative in the series — for a Beyblade series that is known for poor characterization and throwaway characters, I might add. I personally like her a lot

I see her as the character I don’t want coming in the series. She’s not really unique for a debate like Shu, Lui, etc. If we’re being honest people just like her appearance and that’s it. My opinion.
(Nov. 25, 2021  7:05 PM)God Dragruler Wrote:
(Nov. 25, 2021  4:07 AM)Jhilixie Wrote: She appeared in manga?

Yea only a Page Where she's behind Rashad nothing much

(Nov. 25, 2021  1:33 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: How exactly have they ruined Ilya? She is a pretty strong blader in her own right. Just because she lost to the likes of Lui (directly) and Bell (in a team battle) dont make her weak. She is a pretty unique character in burst; psychologically outwitting her opponents, which I think is a pretty good deal in itself.  
You are forgetting that she is going against the Legend bladers as well as Bell and Rashad; both of whom are very strong.

Regarding the fact that she sides with Rashad, isn't it obvious that they are good friends and share a mutual disdain for Bell.
I think you misundstood what some of Us think about her , no one said she's weak (about she's ruined thats only for darker/Flasher no one else think that) . The main complain is her impact isnt something that impressive really. She's is the only main female blader as such she should be more impressive and memorable is she strong yea but nothing that we haven't seen before. What makes her unique is her personality. As for her going with Rashad i dont think anyone complain about that its a no brainer why shes in Rashad side. She should have been writing as the second strongest after Rashad (not counting the legends). And she's not remember she left BC Sol to be comparable to rashad which she isnt at all, rashad being stronger isnt an issue but give her something that will let some us be like wow if Its wasnt for Rashad she wouldve been the best in DB (again not counting the legends). It takes more the a good personality to be a good/great character specially a main female character if that was the only way for a character to be great alot would ve been in fictions. Look at mariah from the OG Now thats an inpressive female who left an impact when people talk about the OG mariah will come up Many times. But unfortunatly Ilya will be talk less by fans.

To judge a characters impact before the final episode is the greatest folly in my opinion,  especially when there are 15 episodes left. 
Also talking about impact, realistically speaking how many characters apart from the protagonist and antagonist in burst have really had an impact? 
I think its a folly to assume that just because she is the first female blader she will have a major impact. Also if you have noticed she is the one who majorly supports Rashad and gives him advice. I think guiding the antagonists motive is pretty impactful, don't you?
(Nov. 26, 2021  1:51 AM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote: I see her as the character I don’t want coming in the series. She’s not really unique for a debate like Shu, Lui, etc. If we’re being honest people just like her appearance and that’s it. My opinion.

Youll be flattered at the fact that the other way around works too — Ive hung around Burst fangirl communities long enough to know that this is just a normal thing. Most of the fangirls’ praise for characters such as Shu, Daigo, Phi, etc. are mostly because of their appealing design. Its a normal thing, regardless of a character’s gender

And if Im going to be honest, I think Ilya is unique appearance-wise as well. Looking at the past female Bladers in Burst, they had unmemorable and rather basic appearances — things you would most likely see someone wear in life, compared to most of the males’ extravagant and Bey-themed clothing. I like the thought put into Ilya’s appearance: her cat-based helmet, the eyeliner, and her rollerblades. At least her appearance pops out and makes her unique compared to the previous females
(Nov. 26, 2021  1:51 AM)Darkus/Flasher Wrote:
(Nov. 26, 2021  1:13 AM)BurningSands Wrote: As a female Beyblade fan myself, Im pretty happy to say that I like Ilya the way she is. As stated before, she is a pretty unique and strong character in her own right. Heck, the fact that any of us are debating about her at all tells something — she must be pretty unique enough in order for people to have different interpretations of her, as well as making people discuss about her character. And a character that involves discussion and analysis is always a unique character — they are characters that clearly left an impact on the viewer, unlike stock and background characters who dont have a lot for us to say

And I do admit: its a little obvious that some people are too fixated on the fact that she is a female. Some fans treat Ilya and her flaws, mess-ups, etc. more harshly simply because of her gender.  I get it, theres not a lot of major female Bladers in Burst and its reasonable to be concerned about her reception. Its understandable to be worried because you want a positive, lasting impression from a minority character in a series. But some of you are keeping a close eye on her simply because of her gender

I like Ilya the way she is. Although I cant speak for all females, Id like to say that I think shes already unique and memorable in her own right. She is a pretty good female representative in the series — for a Beyblade series that is known for poor characterization and throwaway characters, I might add. I personally like her a lot

I see her as the character I don’t want coming in the series. She’s not really unique for a debate like Shu, Lui, etc. If we’re being honest people just like her appearance and that’s it. My opinion.

While I get your angst with the character, saying there shouldn't be any debate is very disingenuous.  I get it; you see her as sort of a Tetsuya of MFB. This, in my opinion,  is highly inaccurate as Tetsuya was made as a gag character whereas Illya is a serious character. 

To allege that we like her just because of her design is pretty hilarious when I and sands have pointed out the reasons we like her.