(Dec. 09, 2020  12:40 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Recently I heard from -Fireblaze-  that Dead Hades could break current Xtend+ Tempest combos. I was intrigued and finally got my hands on Dead Hades, I am also testing it with and without Level Chip to see if the Level Chip is Crucial to the combination.

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Also the reason why this thread and not the original one as I realized Dead Hades actually was able to destabilize it's opponents by knocking them down. However the original Thread was testing it on Attack drivers to see it could do.

(Dec. 09, 2020  12:57 AM)AlexTheBlader Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  12:40 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Recently I heard from -Fireblaze-  that Dead Hades could break current Xtend+ Tempest combos. I was intrigued and finally got my hands on Dead Hades, I am also testing it with and without Level Chip to see if the Level Chip is Crucial to the combination.

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Also the reason why this thread and not the original one as I realized Dead Hades actually was able to destabilize it's opponents by knocking them down. However the original Thread was testing it on Attack drivers to see it could do.

That is true. Watch Crimson Bladers on YouTube which is FireBlaze’s channel. You can see dead hades in action.

(Dec. 09, 2020  1:22 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  12:57 AM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: That is true. Watch Crimson Bladers on YouTube which is FireBlaze’s channel. You can see dead hades in action.

Yes but I felt that it would be better to have it against current meta combos to see if it was only restricted to a counter to Xtend+ or could be used against many other purposes

(Dec. 09, 2020  1:25 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: Wait didnt they say that a winning combo for Dead Hades was Blitz Atomic?

(Dec. 09, 2020  1:57 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: But how does it destabilize it?

(Dec. 09, 2020  1:33 AM)AlexTheBlader Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  1:25 AM)EarthHelios Wrote: Wait didnt they say that a winning combo for Dead Hades was Blitz Atomic?

Yes, it can beat Xtend+ combos.

(Dec. 09, 2020  1:58 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  1:57 AM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: But how does it destabilize it?

Shape? I'll do some testing soon after all this is a testing Thread, anyone want to help?

(Dec. 09, 2020  5:57 PM)Pikachu Sensei Wrote: Try it on high’ drivers

(Dec. 09, 2020  6:53 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  5:57 PM)Pikachu Sensei Wrote: Try it on high’ drivers

I have high blow’ if you want I can test it

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dH BL HiBlow’ vs rL Ds’ 3A

1: rL spin finish
2: rL spin finish
3: dH Over Finish
4: rL spin finish
5: rL spin finish
6: rL spin finish
7: rL spin Finish
8: rL Spin Finish
9: rL Spin Finish
10:  rL Spin Finish

rL 90%
dH 10%

rL launched first

Launchers: Right Long Launcher, Left String Launcher

Stadium : SnakePit Hasbro Stadium

Notes:
Not official since of SnakePit stadium but hades may do better on sometimes like 0 turn hi blow’ and the over finish was a fluke probably


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(Dec. 09, 2020  7:49 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Can anyone test a Dead Hades destabilization combo against Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ (Stamina Mode) 2A and then the same combo the Dead Hades had but with Air Knight instead of Dead Hades for the layer?

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:19 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  7:49 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Can anyone test a Dead Hades destabilization combo against Tempest Lucifer Xtend+ (Stamina Mode) 2A and then the same combo the Dead Hades had but with Air Knight instead of Dead Hades for the layer?

Don’t have all those parts but I have seen dead hades blitz atomic vs tempest Lucifer Xtend+ and seen hades beat it during tournaments.

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:23 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:19 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: Don’t have all those parts but I have seen dead hades blitz atomic vs tempest Lucifer Xtend+ and seen hades beat it during tournaments.

I put a lot of that on atomic beating Xtend+ in same spin. Dead Hades Blitz Atomic Vs. a Tempest combo on Atomic would probably be beaten.

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:26 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:23 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: I put a lot of that on atomic beating Xtend+ in same spin. Dead Hades Blitz Atomic Vs. a Tempest combo on Atomic would probably be beaten.

The main problem is the meta is so shifted one way “the popular” way when somebody finds a new combo that can counter one of those that isn’t used much anymore (just like me and my mirage Fafnir 2s Xtend+ combo the combos can’t hold against those secret really good combos as these co my old are used to counter the “popular” combos

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:30 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:26 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: The main problem is the meta is so shifted one way “the popular” way when somebody finds a new combo that can counter one of those that isn’t used much anymore (just like me and my mirage Fafnir 2s Xtend+ combo the combos can’t hold against those secret really good combos as these co my old are used to counter the “popular” combos

If the popular way is the best way, then so be it. The best Bladers usually use the best combos for a situation, and I have no idea why Blitz, for example, is used over something like 00Cross.

(Dec. 09, 2020  10:39 PM)g2_ Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:30 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: If the popular way is the best way, then so be it. The best Bladers usually use the best combos for a situation, and I have no idea why Blitz, for example, is used over something like 00Cross.

00Cross over Wheel? Why?

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:30 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:26 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: The main problem is the meta is so shifted one way “the popular” way when somebody finds a new combo that can counter one of those that isn’t used much anymore (just like me and my mirage Fafnir 2s Xtend+ combo the combos can’t hold against those secret really good combos as these co my old are used to counter the “popular” combos

If the popular way is the best way, then so be it. The best Bladers usually use the best combos for a situation, and I have no idea why Blitz, for example, is used over something like 00Cross.

(Dec. 09, 2020  12:40 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: Recently I heard from -Fireblaze-  that Dead Hades could break current Xtend+ Tempest combos. I was intrigued and finally got my hands on Dead Hades, I am also testing it with and without Level Chip to see if the Level Chip is Crucial to the combination.

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Also the reason why this thread and not the original one as I realized Dead Hades actually was able to destabilize it's opponents by knocking them down. However the original Thread was testing it on Attack drivers to see it could do.

(Dec. 09, 2020  5:56 PM)-Fireblaze- Wrote: I have tested against other things like the new zone' +z driver and beats combos that have that as well. Also I even put it up against Rage Longinus and I posted the video on youtube. It goes head to head with it. But I need to get a level chip. All battles I have done are without it and have given me great success in tournaments. Leading me to win back to back which is why its in the winning combos multiple times. Ill have to try the level chip and see how much improvement I can get from that

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:23 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:19 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: Don’t have all those parts but I have seen  dead hades blitz atomic vs tempest Lucifer Xtend+ and seen hades beat it during tournaments.

I put a lot of that on atomic beating Xtend+ in same spin. Dead Hades Blitz Atomic Vs. a Tempest combo on Atomic would probably be beaten.

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:30 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

(Dec. 09, 2020  8:26 PM)AlexTheBlader Wrote: The main problem is the meta is so shifted one way “the popular” way when somebody finds a new combo that can counter one of those that isn’t used much anymore (just like me and my mirage Fafnir 2s Xtend+ combo the combos can’t hold against those secret really good combos as these co my old are used to counter the “popular” combos

If the popular way is the best way, then so be it. The best Bladers usually use the best combos for a situation, and I have no idea why Blitz, for example, is used over something like 00Cross.