(Mar. 22, 2019  7:26 PM)lilphilyb Wrote:

(Mar. 22, 2019  7:24 PM)~Mana~ Wrote: I'm referring to Octa in a performance sense really. It just doesn't make much impact on things; it's weight is nice and lets it keep the center nicely, but it's instability and average stamina means that it can very easily be beaten. I hear it works nicely in an "Octavor" combo, but I don't think it'll make much of a splash outside of that.

Charge, yes, will be more available from the get go and I'm sure lots will try to use it in Classic because of the weight advantage. I don't think this weight advantage will he's the fact that the Driver has poor Burst resistance and subpar stamina though, haha. But it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

What is an Octavor Combo?

(Mar. 24, 2019  8:17 PM)William Cochran Wrote: is orichalcum 03 banned?

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switchstrike hasbro. i dont mean shadow version of orichalcum

(Mar. 12, 2019  10:08 PM)Wombat Wrote: Since you asked so politely, I'd be glad to provide an explanation for now.

Accel' and Blow', similarly to Zephyr', are far too exploitable in Tornado Stalling Stamina combos to be allowed in Classic. Having a combo that's capable of outspinning most Stamina types and avoiding stationary Burst Attackers (which is the most reliable way to counter stationary Stamina combos) while also performing well against Xtreme' and Jolt' based KO Attackers (the primary counter to Tornado Stallers) due to the stronger spring of the ' Driver makes them unhealthy for the format. Aside from a few lucky KOs, I couldn't get any Classic-legal combo, aside from like, Dragoon on Eternal, to defeat Guardian Kerbeus/Chaos Gravity Zephyr'. Back in 2015, Odin Heavy Blow was a semi-popular variant of Odin Heavy Defense, and it would only become more powerful with Blow'.

Merge' and Volcanic' could potentially be unbanned in the future, it's just a matter of making sure that there is no combo that could make them overpowered. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that would - Takara Tomy had the right idea by making only Attack and Balance Drivers have ' versions - but even then, having a Driver that's not completely dedicated to KO Attack and makes you basically unburstable in a format where bursting is relatively frequent seems like it might be too much of an advantage.

(Mar. 22, 2019  7:26 PM)lilphilyb Wrote: What is an Octavor Combo?

• Cognite C3 (Hasbro only)
  
• God Valkyrie/Genesis Valtryek V3/Strike Valtryek V3
  
• Guardian Kerbeus (TT only)
  
• Killer Deathscyther/Doomscizor D3
  
• Kreis Satan/Satomb S3
  

• Renewal of "Classic" focus - Burst Classic is a format designed to give Single and Dual Layers the chance to thrive in their own format, as they've become unusable in our existing Burst Format due to weight increase and power creep. It's a throwback format if you'd like to call it that, just with new Drivers permitted to keep things fresh and prevent the format from stagnating. While the God Layers we included did not upset the metagame within this format, there were a number of concerns about whether the format is actually "classic". This change should quell these concerns as we reiterate our goals for this format.
  
• Exception Simplification - Concerns were voiced regarding the roundabout way in which God Layers were added as "exceptions" to the God Layer ban. We permitted six Layers due to their minimal impact on the Classic metagame, but this caused confusion among players as to why this was the case, and often questions being raised why other God Layers couldn't be added. These Layers also provided no significant impact to the metagame, making their roundabout exception an overcomplication when only one or two would see use. This change removes the exceptions from the list and provides a simple and easy-to-understand ruling on these Layers.
  
• Commitment to Limited - As mentioned by myself at various points within the thread, we are actively planning an actual Burst Limited format, planned to be balanced around the God Layers anyway. While we understand a God Layer format might not let the six Layers we've banned here be completely viable, we don't believe all Layers will ever be viable; there will be parts in every format that just aren't viable, be it Layers, Drivers or Disks. It is the unfortunate circle of life. However, we commit to making a God-centric Burst Limited available by the end of this year to provide a space for God/Evolution Layers, and perhaps even Hasbro's Turbo Layers to thrive within.
  

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• All Disks released as part of the Gatinko Layer System (Blitz, Hurricane, Sting etc).
  

(Mar. 28, 2019  12:40 AM)~Mana~ Wrote: We're still looking closely at our Dash Driver bans and whether we can ease the restriction in this area. As always, any testing in this area is appreciated, and we're also open for Classic events to be hosted with these restrictions lifted to help gather competitive data on how to approach this area. Notably, this weekend's Classic event in Toronto - IT'S TIME TO RIP IT! - will have Dash Driver restrictions lifted to see what prevails. Xtend+ is still banned, regardless of the Dash Driver restrictions.

(Mar. 29, 2019  2:28 AM)Shindog Wrote: I understand and respect the decision to ban the god layers. I am sad to see them go. I think a layer like gK is well designed and would be fun to use. I don’t think the god layers previously allowed in classic would see much play in a god layer centric format. I hope I am wrong. Again, I am not complaining I am just sad to see them go.

(Apr. 03, 2019  10:24 PM)Ntruder19 Wrote:

(Apr. 03, 2019  7:24 PM)RED NINJA 0829 Wrote: Classic is only based on Single layers and Dual layers

They include drivers and bad layers from other generations to keep it from being exactly like the pre-god meta.

(Apr. 29, 2019  3:08 PM)MagixG Wrote: I know it was actually JUST released, but will Storm Pegasus Burst remake possibly have a spot anywhere in here? Also, what about Quick'? I'm assuming so because it's basically wider, shorter Xtreme'

(Apr. 30, 2019  6:05 PM)MagixG Wrote: But Qc' is safe right?