World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

It always goes bad the saga in the last seasons. Except for Og because G Revolution was pretty good

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:33 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: [ -> ]
I mean
what happened to piplup?
is he trying to control the nether again?

Wrong thread, but he’s out playing a shadow game

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:30 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]The amount of main cast members between Burst and MFB aren't too dissimilar. Yet in burst those mains and many of the side characters have definite arcs across the seasons they feature in. Even in burst's later seasons which I don't altogether credit with doing much with their characters, do have some characters arcs featured in them. One that comes to mind is Delta though I do feel his arc was rushed.

I just gave you a whole list of characters that developed. What happened to that is that just not valid? The truth is that the statistics show that MFB was simply more popular than burst and I think there’s a reason for that.

They did develop, but what I'm pointing out to you is that most of that development happened in a single season. Masters. Which I consider to be the best of the MFB seasons for that reason among others. The other seasons were lacking in that regard save one or two arcs. Burst gave significant arcs to their main cast and side cast for two whole seasons and even built on the growth explored in the earlier season. They then had one or two arcs in the later seasons.

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To say the popularity is a definite indication of it being better is inaccurate.

2000- What the heck why did this season exist?
V-Force: Kinda sucks
G-Revolution: Awesome
Metal Fusion: Just bad
Metal Masters: Cool
Metal Fury: Eh nice
Shogun Steel: Just Trash
Burst: Good
Evolution: Great
Turbo: This season should be shunned
Rise; Eh kinda good
Surge: Idk yet

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:30 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]I just gave you a whole list of characters that developed. What happened to that is that just not valid? The truth is that the statistics show that MFB was simply more popular than burst and I think there’s a reason for that.

They did develop, but what I'm pointing out to you is that most of that development happened in a single season. Masters. Which I consider to be the best of the MFB seasons for that reason among others. The other seasons were lacking in that regard save one or two arcs. Burst gave significant arcs to their main cast and side cast for two whole seasons and even built on the growth explored in the earlier season. They then had one or two arcs in the later seasons.

Once again you are defining the entire show by 2 seasons. Fury did have a lot of character development if you look at it. Chris realizes what beyblade is about. Dynamis also learns to overcome his own darkness. Kyoya also learns that he can’t push things back. King learns about responsibility. In fact out of all the main cast Rago and Tithi don’t change (mainly due to being shown at the end). Fusion I have to brush some dust off of, but I know that Gingka has all his character development in this season, and Kyoya also has major character development.

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:41 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]They did develop, but what I'm pointing out to you is that most of that development happened in a single season. Masters. Which I consider to be the best of the MFB seasons for that reason among others. The other seasons were lacking in that regard save one or two arcs. Burst gave significant arcs to their main cast and side cast for two whole seasons and even built on the growth explored in the earlier season. They then had one or two arcs in the later seasons.

Once again you are defining the entire show by 2 seasons. Fury did have a lot of character development if you look at it. Chris realizes what beyblade is about. Dynamis also learns to overcome his own darkness. Kyoya also learns that he can’t push things back. King learns about responsibility. In fact out of all the main cast Rago and Tithi don’t change (mainly due to being shown at the end). Fusion I have to brush some dust off of, but I know that Gingka has all his character development in this season, and Kyoya also has major character development.

agreed. Two seasons in burst cannot lift it up. The whole MFB saga overall was extreemely good

Half of MFB seasons were bad. And you would know exactly which ones they are

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:52 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Half of MFB seasons were bad. And you would know exactly which ones they are

Shogun steel wasnt that bad. It was okish. IT wasnt trash like 90 percent of burst and 2/3 of OG

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:54 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:52 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Half of MFB seasons were bad. And you would know exactly which ones they are

Shogun steel wasnt that bad. It still was good. IT wasnt trash like 90 percent of burst and 2/3 of OG

Actually OG had 2 good season. lol Burst be having most of the season bad

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:55 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:54 PM)Ryuga's Son Wrote: [ -> ]Shogun steel wasnt that bad. It still was good. IT wasnt trash like 90 percent of burst and 2/3 of OG

Actually OG had 2 good season. lol Burst be having most of the season bad

2000 was complete garbage and v force was on the edge of being bad but is ok

If the season is bad then the beys are fine.

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:56 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]If the season is bad then the beys are fine.

Burst beys are kinda cool so I will give them thta

Quest is the only good thing in Cho-z/Turbo

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:52 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Half of MFB seasons were bad. And you would know exactly which ones they are

Then please explain how it was more popular than both burst and og

(Dec. 15, 2020  6:02 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:52 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Half of MFB seasons were bad. And you would know exactly which ones they are

Then please explain how it was more popular than both burst and og

W doesnt listen to reasoning

Oh wow I forgot about 1 battle that I liked lol

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:41 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]They did develop, but what I'm pointing out to you is that most of that development happened in a single season. Masters. Which I consider to be the best of the MFB seasons for that reason among others. The other seasons were lacking in that regard save one or two arcs. Burst gave significant arcs to their main cast and side cast for two whole seasons and even built on the growth explored in the earlier season. They then had one or two arcs in the later seasons.

Once again you are defining the entire show by 2 seasons. Fury did have a lot of character development if you look at it. Chris realizes what beyblade is about. Dynamis also learns to overcome his own darkness. Kyoya also learns that he can’t push things back. King learns about responsibility. In fact out of all the main cast Rago and Tithi don’t change (mainly due to being shown at the end). Fusion I have to brush some dust off of, but I know that Gingka has all his character development in this season, and Kyoya also has major character development.

Character development and character growth through character arcs are different. Development is more about getting know a character, that can include backstory and traits. Growth through arcs is when we really get to see a character change. Dymanius was basically the same person at the beginning as he was at the end. He got posssesed by that curse but we didn't see any major change in him. He was basically just in the wrong place at the wrong time. King didn't necessarily lack a sense of responsibility in the beginning and for the most part he was same at the end then he was in the beginning. We didn't see any significant growth and change from those characters. Chris had a little mini arc about learning the true meaning of beyblade which was nice. But the only characters that really had significant growth and change was Kenta and Ryuga. I'm not sure what you mean about Kyoya with pushing things back. In Burst all of those mains and side characters had significant growth and change. In addition burst also had a lot of little mini arcs with characters like Naoiki, Orochi, Ukyo, and Quon among others.

Now this turned onto a arguement

(Dec. 15, 2020  6:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:41 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Once again you are defining the entire show by 2 seasons. Fury did have a lot of character development if you look at it. Chris realizes what beyblade is about. Dynamis also learns to overcome his own darkness. Kyoya also learns that he can’t push things back. King learns about responsibility. In fact out of all the main cast Rago and Tithi don’t change (mainly due to being shown at the end). Fusion I have to brush some dust off of, but I know that Gingka has all his character development in this season, and Kyoya also has major character development.

Character development and character growth through character arcs are different. Development is more about getting know a character that can include backstory and traits. Growth through arcs is when we really get to see a character change. Dymanius was basically the same at the end then he was at the beginning. He got posssesed by that curse but we didn't see any major change in him. King didn't necessarily lack a sense of responsibility in the beginning and for the most part he was same at the end then he was in the beginning. We didn't see any significant growth and change from those characters. Chris had a little mini arc about learning the true meaning of beyblade which was nice. But the only characters that really had significant growth and change was Kenta and Ryuga. I'm not sure what you mean about Kyoya with pushing things back. In Burst all of those mains and side characters had significant growth and change. In addition burst also had a lot of little mini arcs with characters like Naoiki, Orochi, Ukyo, and Quon among others.

I haven’t seen Ranjiro, Rantaro, Ken, Valt and so many others change. You keep on talking about how great burst is compared to MFB, but explain this why is burst less popular

(Dec. 15, 2020  6:36 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Now this turned onto a arguement

ofc it did

(Dec. 15, 2020  6:37 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  6:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Character development and character growth through character arcs are different. Development is more about getting know a character that can include backstory and traits. Growth through arcs is when we really get to see a character change. Dymanius was basically the same at the end then he was at the beginning. He got posssesed by that curse but we didn't see any major change in him. King didn't necessarily lack a sense of responsibility in the beginning and for the most part he was same at the end then he was in the beginning. We didn't see any significant growth and change from those characters. Chris had a little mini arc about learning the true meaning of beyblade which was nice. But the only characters that really had significant growth and change was Kenta and Ryuga. I'm not sure what you mean about Kyoya with pushing things back. In Burst all of those mains and side characters had significant growth and change. In addition burst also had a lot of little mini arcs with characters like Naoiki, Orochi, Ukyo, and Quon among others.

I haven’t seen Ranjiro, Rantaro, Ken, Valt and so many others change. You keep on talking about how great burst is compared to MFB, but explain this why is burst less popular

Burst is more popular
there are more ppl that know about burst than ppl who know about mfb
in MFB mostly mfb fans know it, in burst, Both mfb and new beyblade fans know it
some of my friends didnt even heard of the mfb and classic

Just let it go.

(Dec. 15, 2020  6:37 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  6:36 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Character development and character growth through character arcs are different. Development is more about getting know a character that can include backstory and traits. Growth through arcs is when we really get to see a character change. Dymanius was basically the same at the end then he was at the beginning. He got posssesed by that curse but we didn't see any major change in him. King didn't necessarily lack a sense of responsibility in the beginning and for the most part he was same at the end then he was in the beginning. We didn't see any significant growth and change from those characters. Chris had a little mini arc about learning the true meaning of beyblade which was nice. But the only characters that really had significant growth and change was Kenta and Ryuga. I'm not sure what you mean about Kyoya with pushing things back. In Burst all of those mains and side characters had significant growth and change. In addition burst also had a lot of little mini arcs with characters like Naoiki, Orochi, Ukyo, and Quon among others.

I haven’t seen Ranjiro, Rantaro, Ken, Valt and so many others change. You keep on talking about how great burst is compared to MFB, but explain this why is burst less popular

Rantaro, Valt and Ken did change. Rantaro came to understand that there's no shame in supporting others and that it didn't make him any less of a blader. Valt learned big time that hard work and determination can take you anywhere and that you have to always keep training. He learned and came to understand what it means to be a leader. Ken was so timid and closed off in the beginning but across the season he grew very close to the all the bey club members so much so that we saw him open up little by little across the season. Then we saw how much they grew to mean to him when he had to leave. And by that point he has completely opened up to them. When he returned at the nationals he was no longer the shy, timid person he used to be. He had a newfound confidence.

As far as popularity is concerned, just because something is popular doesn't inherently make it better or good. The transformers movies are popular and bring in billions but they are horrible.

Like they say Respect the bladers