World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.

I will never forget the day Kai defeated Brooklyn.

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:04 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:01 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Character handling could be better, but to each their own.

When I mention Burst and character work, I'm talking specifically about season 1&2. So many characters got development and growth through definite character arcs. From the main to the side characters. Adding to that they built upon the good character work in season 1 on to season 2 and then brought in new characters and developed them and gave them definite arcs. Such good stuff.

Well, 2 seasons aren’t the entire show. Your words suggest that you’re talking about the series as a whole in which case character handling is overall bad.

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:04 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:01 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Character handling could be better, but to each their own.

When I mention Burst and character work, I'm talking specifically about season 1&2. So many characters got development and growth through definite character arcs. From the main to the side characters. Adding to that they built upon the good character work in season 1 on to season 2 and then brought in new characters and developed them and gave them definite arcs. Such good stuff.

only season one and two

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(Dec. 15, 2020  4:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:04 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]When I mention Burst and character work, I'm talking specifically about season 1&2. So many characters got development and growth through definite character arcs. From the main to the side characters. Adding to that they built upon the good character work in season 1 on to season 2 and then brought in new characters and developed them and gave them definite arcs. Such good stuff.

Well, 2 seasons aren’t the entire show. Your words suggest that you’re talking about the series as a whole in which case character handling is overall bad.

the rest of the show was garbage

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(Dec. 15, 2020  4:12 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I will never forget the day Kai defeated Brooklyn.

Kai is weak (jk JK JK JK)

Boi Ryuga is weak lmao

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:04 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]When I mention Burst and character work, I'm talking specifically about season 1&2. So many characters got development and growth through definite character arcs. From the main to the side characters. Adding to that they built upon the good character work in season 1 on to season 2 and then brought in new characters and developed them and gave them definite arcs. Such good stuff.

Well, 2 seasons aren’t the entire show. Your words suggest that you’re talking about the series as a whole in which case character handling is overall bad.

Well I can't deny that's true of the later seasons of Burst, they don't measure up to those first two, but let's examine the character work of the first two seasons in comparison to metal fight. Now it's been awhile but I don't remember metal fusion doing much in the way of definite arcs for most of the cast. Same with Metal Fury and I don't think Shogun Steel did so either so when compared pound for pound, those first two seasons of burst put it over metal fight when it comes to the character work.

Half of these final battles are just not hype

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:23 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Well, 2 seasons aren’t the entire show. Your words suggest that you’re talking about the series as a whole in which case character handling is overall bad.

Well I can't deny that's true of the later seasons of Burst, they don't measure up to those first two, but let's examine the character work of the first two seasons in comparison to metal fight. Now it's been awhile but I don't remember metal fusion doing much in the way of definite arcs for most of the cast. Same with Metal Fury and I don't think Shogun Steel did so either so when compared pound for pound, those first two seasons of burst put over metal fight when it comes to the character work.

Metal Fury and Metal Masters suprassed all the seasons of burst. Its popularity was MUCH BIGGER then burst;s.

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(Dec. 15, 2020  4:23 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Half of these final battles are just not hype

like OG ones

Nah MFB be having absolute trash battles.
Turbo and Rise not so good

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:25 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]Nah MFB be having absolute trash battles.
Turbo and Rise not so good

MFB has good battles. OG has good as well. But MFB is better for sure

But OG has insane battles. Im just used too it.

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:23 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:14 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Well, 2 seasons aren’t the entire show. Your words suggest that you’re talking about the series as a whole in which case character handling is overall bad.

Well I can't deny that's true of the later seasons of Burst, they don't measure up to those first two, but let's examine the character work of the first two seasons in comparison to metal fight. Now it's been awhile but I don't remember metal fusion doing much in the way of definite arcs for most of the cast. Same with Metal Fury and I don't think Shogun Steel did so either so when compared pound for pound, those first two seasons of burst put it over metal fight when it comes to the character work.

Metal fury and masters did have definitely had character arcs. Metal Fusion kind of had character arcs although it was very small as first seasons of shounen tend to be.

Best battles imo:
Kai vs. Tyson
Kai vs. Brooklyn
Tala vs. Garland
Gingka vs. Ryuga
Sakyo vs. Zyro
Shu vs. Valt
Dante vs. Gwyn

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:31 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:23 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Well I can't deny that's true of the later seasons of Burst, they don't measure up to those first two, but let's examine the character work of the first two seasons in comparison to metal fight. Now it's been awhile but I don't remember metal fusion doing much in the way of definite arcs for most of the cast. Same with Metal Fury and I don't think Shogun Steel did so either so when compared pound for pound, those first two seasons of burst put it over metal fight when it comes to the character work.

Metal fury and masters did have definitely had character arcs. Metal Fusion kind of had character arcs although it was very small as first seasons of shounen tend to be.

Admittedly, it's been awhile but did most of the cast receive arcs in those two seasons and if so which characters in which ways did they grow?

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:42 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:31 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Metal fury and masters did have definitely had character arcs. Metal Fusion kind of had character arcs although it was very small as first seasons of shounen tend to be.

Admittedly, it's been awhile but did most of the cast receive arcs in those two seasons and if so which characters in which ways did they grow?

Kenta has major character development and matures in fury. Tsubasa learn to embrace his demons in masters. Masamune learns that that his actions have consequences in masters and that you don’t have to be chosen in order to be strong in fury. Zeo learns that he can’t place all the blame onto others, and he also learns the value of friendship in masters. Yuu learns to listen to his bey and that beys have a true bond. Ryuga learns sacrifice for the greater good in fury. Dynamis learns that everything doesn’t always go through a divine plan. Kyoya also develops in that he becomes more caring for others. Yuki becomes stronger and learns more about the bladers spirit. These are just some that I can name off the top of my head.

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:48 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:42 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Admittedly, it's been awhile but did most of the cast receive arcs in those two seasons and if so which characters in which ways did they grow?

Kenta has major character development and matures in fury. Tsubasa learn to embrace his demons in masters. Masamune learns that that his actions have consequences in masters and that you don’t have to be chosen in order to be strong in fury. Zeo learns that he can’t place all the blame onto others, and he also learns the value of friendship in masters. Yuu learns to listen to his bey and that beys have a true bond. Ryuga learns sacrifice for the greater good in fury. These are just some that I can name off the top of my head.

agreed. He went from a weakling to a legendary blader. Tsusbasa became one with the dark power. Same with all the things you said. Metal Fury and Metal masters did have character development.

MFB also had a very awesome plot.

It enchirched the plot so well, that I became obessed with beyblades

I gag when I think of a villain turning good

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:59 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I gag when I think of a villain turning good

Sometimes those are the most heartbreaking moments as whenever a villain turns over they usually die.

Hopefully Lane doesnt turn good.

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:48 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:42 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Admittedly, it's been awhile but did most of the cast receive arcs in those two seasons and if so which characters in which ways did they grow?

Kenta has major character development and matures in fury. Tsubasa learn to embrace his demons in masters. Masamune learns that that his actions have consequences in masters and that you don’t have to be chosen in order to be strong in fury. Zeo learns that he can’t place all the blame onto others, and he also learns the value of friendship in masters. Yuu learns to listen to his bey and that beys have a true bond. Ryuga learns sacrifice for the greater good in fury. These are just some that I can name off the top of my head.

Kenta's development I do remember. That was well done. Most of the development happened in masters. In fury it seemed to me that just Kenta and Ryuga had definite arcs. Not most of the cast. Though some work was mined out of Masmune. I know the majority of his growth was in Masters. So the the seasons with the most growth in MFB was in masters and fury and most of fury's cast it seems didn't have definite arcs.

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:14 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  4:48 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Kenta has major character development and matures in fury. Tsubasa learn to embrace his demons in masters. Masamune learns that that his actions have consequences in masters and that you don’t have to be chosen in order to be strong in fury. Zeo learns that he can’t place all the blame onto others, and he also learns the value of friendship in masters. Yuu learns to listen to his bey and that beys have a true bond. Ryuga learns sacrifice for the greater good in fury. These are just some that I can name off the top of my head.

Kenta's development I do remember. That was well done. Most of the development happened in masters. In fury it seemed to me that just Kenta and Ryuga had definite arcs. Not most of the cast. Though some work was mined out of Masmune. I know the majority of his growth was in Masters. So the the seasons with the most growth in MFB was in masters and fury and most of fury's cast it seems didn't have definite arcs.

There’s only so much to do in 51 episodes hence why main cast characters have mini arcs which is like 1-3 episodes dedicated to them. Burst has a much much smaller cast which is why there’s a little bit more character development, but mfb has way more character development then you give it credit for.

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:19 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:14 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]Kenta's development I do remember. That was well done. Most of the development happened in masters. In fury it seemed to me that just Kenta and Ryuga had definite arcs. Not most of the cast. Though some work was mined out of Masmune. I know the majority of his growth was in Masters. So the the seasons with the most growth in MFB was in masters and fury and most of fury's cast it seems didn't have definite arcs.

There’s only so much to do in 51 episodes hence why main cast characters have mini arcs which is like 1-3 episodes dedicated to them. Burst has a much much smaller cast which is why there’s a little bit more character development, but mfb has way more character development then you give it credit for.

The amount of main cast members between Burst and MFB aren't too dissimilar. Yet in burst those mains and many of the side characters have definite arcs across the seasons they feature in. Even in burst's later seasons which I don't altogether credit with doing much with their characters, do have some characters arcs featured in them. One that comes to mind is Delta though I do feel his arc was rushed.

I dont think its the cast thats the problem I think its the idea of how the arcs are gonna play out that is kinda the problem for burst

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:27 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I dont think its the cast thats the problem I think its the idea of how the arcs are gonna play out that is kinda the problem for burst

The arcs played out wonderfully in those first two seasons. The later ones unfortunately weren't great but they did have one or two in those later seasons that weren't bad.

I mean they arent bad its just maybe the writers are running out of ideas. I kinda like some arcs in Turbo and in Rise. Surge is like meh right now

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:26 PM)Admiral W Wrote: [ -> ]

(Dec. 15, 2020  5:19 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]There’s only so much to do in 51 episodes hence why main cast characters have mini arcs which is like 1-3 episodes dedicated to them. Burst has a much much smaller cast which is why there’s a little bit more character development, but mfb has way more character development then you give it credit for.

The amount of main cast members between Burst and MFB aren't too dissimilar. Yet in burst those mains and many of the side characters have definite arcs across the seasons they feature in. Even in burst's later seasons which I don't altogether credit with doing much with their characters, do have some characters arcs featured in them. One that comes to mind is Delta though I do feel his arc was rushed.

I just gave you a whole list of characters that developed. What happened to that is that just not valid? The truth is that the statistics show that MFB was simply more popular than burst and I think there’s a reason for that.