Sep. 08, 2014 2:41 AM
That is probably the tournament prize silver version, not just grey. In any case, Gaia Dragoon MS recolours are rather unpopular, so I would seriously say thirty dollars at most.
(Sep. 08, 2014 4:43 AM)Neo Wrote: [ -> ]Does the Hasbro Wubbums actually have any differences?
(Sep. 08, 2014 2:53 AM)Echizen Wrote: [ -> ]Okay, thanks.
And what about a NIB Black Wolborg MS?
(Sep. 08, 2014 2:24 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: [ -> ]That would be the price that's still reasonable for both seller and buyer (ok, maybe up to 110). Of course not the highest you can get, if you wait until you find somebody completely desperate.
100 would be the highest possible price for blue WMS, that is still considerable reasonable in some way, but rather "fair" for the seller than the buyer. So 100 for a black, which is rarer, could be considered as not the very highest possible price, but still fair for both.
We have to keep in mind that rareness doesn't always come along with extremely high values. Just for example, every plastic bey from RB1 is EXTREMELY rare, but nobody would pay 300 for a yellow bakushin-oh or something, right? Wolborg is rare, that's true, but not as rare as MSUV and so also the recolors have their limits in value.
Nevertheless, you will always find some dumbies, who have lots of money, but no idea of values of beys, that will pay 200+ for it. But that's the case for every rare bey and far away from reasonable, which I thought was asked for.
(Sep. 08, 2014 2:52 PM)taxus Wrote: [ -> ]in fact: the pricelist on beywiki is not a guideline, because this is only a pricelist from someone what he is ready to pay, dont forget that...
u will never get a wolborg ms nib for 30-40$. not on ebay, not privat, not on yja.
Regards
(Sep. 08, 2014 2:59 PM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 08, 2014 2:52 PM)taxus Wrote: [ -> ]in fact: the pricelist on beywiki is not a guideline, because this is only a pricelist from someone what he is ready to pay, dont forget that...
u will never get a wolborg ms nib for 30-40$. not on ebay, not privat, not on yja.
Regards
It's very possible to find Wolborg MS for that price on YJA though, I've seen multiple recently.
(Sep. 08, 2014 2:52 PM)taxus Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 08, 2014 2:24 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: [ -> ]That would be the price that's still reasonable for both seller and buyer (ok, maybe up to 110). Of course not the highest you can get, if you wait until you find somebody completely desperate.
100 would be the highest possible price for blue WMS, that is still considerable reasonable in some way, but rather "fair" for the seller than the buyer. So 100 for a black, which is rarer, could be considered as not the very highest possible price, but still fair for both.
We have to keep in mind that rareness doesn't always come along with extremely high values. Just for example, every plastic bey from RB1 is EXTREMELY rare, but nobody would pay 300 for a yellow bakushin-oh or something, right? Wolborg is rare, that's true, but not as rare as MSUV and so also the recolors have their limits in value.
Nevertheless, you will always find some dumbies, who have lots of money, but no idea of values of beys, that will pay 200+ for it. But that's the case for every rare bey and far away from reasonable, which I thought was asked for.
would we talk about the "fair" prices, we have to talk 10 years.
in fact: the pricelist on beywiki is not a guideline, because this is only a pricelist from someone what he is ready to pay, dont forget that...
u will never get a wolborg ms nib for 30-40$. not on ebay, not privat, not on yja.
And a black one is rare, every nip beyblade is rare (seems so)
a beyblade have that value what a person is ready to buy...
if i have to sell my stuff fast (value maybe 80$) and only one person is offering 30$ i would sell it, because i need the money. but if i have nothing to loose and can wait, i can sell it for 80$.. i hope u can understand this marketing 1337.
Thats like: u searching since 4 years for a black wolborg and now somebody is selling one, but u know the worth is 50 and thr seller wants 120$ u will think about to buy and im very sure, u would buy it, because u dont want to wait again and nobody else is selling that.
Regards
(Sep. 08, 2014 6:13 PM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ]We had a very similar discussion previously involving the member BeyderAndy.My desperation of not being able to buy the old Beyblades kicked in.
He was convinced to change his mind later, but it essentially consisted of him saying "hey, if there's enough demand for it, it's totally cool to charge $500 for something worth $300"
Taxus, I disagree with "a beyblade have that value what a person is ready to buy... "
A beyblade has a value based on performance/rarity/desirability (eg nobody really cares about yellow bakushin-oh like mentioned above). Just because there's always that one person who will be rich and desperate enough to shell out the cash doesn't mean a bey has more value, it means someone is foolish and the seller is going to be rich.
Some ebay sellers have listed their same over-priced Dragoon V2 for $150 for 8-12 months, and it's even like that for wolborg 1, dranzer F etc with no sale. They'll probably eventually sell it.
There's fair and there's taking advantage of desperation.
The majority of sellers prioritize profit over fairness, and that's such a blow to the bey community.
(Sep. 08, 2014 9:47 PM)Neo Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 08, 2014 6:13 PM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ]We had a very similar discussion previously involving the member BeyderAndy.My desperation of not being able to buy the old Beyblades kicked in.
He was convinced to change his mind later, but it essentially consisted of him saying "hey, if there's enough demand for it, it's totally cool to charge $500 for something worth $300"
Taxus, I disagree with "a beyblade have that value what a person is ready to buy... "
A beyblade has a value based on performance/rarity/desirability (eg nobody really cares about yellow bakushin-oh like mentioned above). Just because there's always that one person who will be rich and desperate enough to shell out the cash doesn't mean a bey has more value, it means someone is foolish and the seller is going to be rich.
Some ebay sellers have listed their same over-priced Dragoon V2 for $150 for 8-12 months, and it's even like that for wolborg 1, dranzer F etc with no sale. They'll probably eventually sell it.
There's fair and there's taking advantage of desperation.
The majority of sellers prioritize profit over fairness, and that's such a blow to the bey community.
That's why I bought all of the V2 Series NIB.
(Sep. 08, 2014 6:13 PM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ]We had a very similar discussion previously involving the member BeyderAndy.
He was convinced to change his mind later, but it essentially consisted of him saying "hey, if there's enough demand for it, it's totally cool to charge $500 for something worth $300"
Taxus, I disagree with "a beyblade have that value what a person is ready to buy... "
A beyblade has a value based on performance/rarity/desirability (eg nobody really cares about yellow bakushin-oh like mentioned above). Just because there's always that one person who will be rich and desperate enough to shell out the cash doesn't mean a bey has more value, it means someone is foolish and the seller is going to be rich.
Some ebay sellers have listed their same over-priced Dragoon V2 for $150 for 8-12 months, and it's even like that for wolborg 1, dranzer F etc with no sale. They'll probably eventually sell it.
There's fair and there's taking advantage of desperation.
The majority of sellers prioritize profit over fairness, and that's such a blow to the bey community.
(Sep. 08, 2014 9:58 PM)Ultra Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 08, 2014 9:47 PM)Neo Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 08, 2014 6:13 PM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ]We had a very similar discussion previously involving the member BeyderAndy.My desperation of not being able to buy the old Beyblades kicked in.
He was convinced to change his mind later, but it essentially consisted of him saying "hey, if there's enough demand for it, it's totally cool to charge $500 for something worth $300"
Taxus, I disagree with "a beyblade have that value what a person is ready to buy... "
A beyblade has a value based on performance/rarity/desirability (eg nobody really cares about yellow bakushin-oh like mentioned above). Just because there's always that one person who will be rich and desperate enough to shell out the cash doesn't mean a bey has more value, it means someone is foolish and the seller is going to be rich.
Some ebay sellers have listed their same over-priced Dragoon V2 for $150 for 8-12 months, and it's even like that for wolborg 1, dranzer F etc with no sale. They'll probably eventually sell it.
There's fair and there's taking advantage of desperation.
The majority of sellers prioritize profit over fairness, and that's such a blow to the bey community.
That's why I bought all of the V2 Series NIB.
Why would you be desperate? They're not hard to find at all...
(Sep. 08, 2014 9:58 PM)Ultra Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 08, 2014 9:47 PM)Neo Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 08, 2014 6:13 PM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ]We had a very similar discussion previously involving the member BeyderAndy.My desperation of not being able to buy the old Beyblades kicked in.
He was convinced to change his mind later, but it essentially consisted of him saying "hey, if there's enough demand for it, it's totally cool to charge $500 for something worth $300"
Taxus, I disagree with "a beyblade have that value what a person is ready to buy... "
A beyblade has a value based on performance/rarity/desirability (eg nobody really cares about yellow bakushin-oh like mentioned above). Just because there's always that one person who will be rich and desperate enough to shell out the cash doesn't mean a bey has more value, it means someone is foolish and the seller is going to be rich.
Some ebay sellers have listed their same over-priced Dragoon V2 for $150 for 8-12 months, and it's even like that for wolborg 1, dranzer F etc with no sale. They'll probably eventually sell it.
There's fair and there's taking advantage of desperation.
The majority of sellers prioritize profit over fairness, and that's such a blow to the bey community.
That's why I bought all of the V2 Series NIB.
Why would you be desperate? They're not hard to find at all...
(Sep. 26, 2014 11:07 PM)Boxhead Wrote: [ -> ]Owners of Dragoon MSUV, have any of you reported cracks on the Metal Frame on the Attack Ring? I'm starting to get some..
(Sep. 27, 2014 2:00 AM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 26, 2014 11:07 PM)Boxhead Wrote: [ -> ]Owners of Dragoon MSUV, have any of you reported cracks on the Metal Frame on the Attack Ring? I'm starting to get some..
That sounds unusual, any photos?
(Sep. 27, 2014 2:05 AM)Neo Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 27, 2014 2:00 AM)Captain Wrote: [ -> ](Sep. 26, 2014 11:07 PM)Boxhead Wrote: [ -> ]Owners of Dragoon MSUV, have any of you reported cracks on the Metal Frame on the Attack Ring? I'm starting to get some..
That sounds unusual, any photos?
Very strange.
I have an extremely worn one, nothing wrong here.
Maybe Boxhead is battling against MFB??