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Vulcan as a Defense wheel.

Dec. 14, 2010  5:26 AM
 
Look, I know your gawking at the fact this thread was made, but it had to be.
I just want to make sure nothing is over-looked, and especially posts like '-insert wheel name- is not an attack wheel.' Because I bet that half the time that is said, no one tested it for such a thing. I have doubts due to prior tests such as the one I am about to show you about Vulcans defense capabilities. (Whatever they may be -or not be-.)

Attack Testing:

Vulcan Bull C145CS vs Lightning LDrago CH120RF
1 - 9: I'm surprised Vulcan actually one once. Vulcan WR: 10%, LLDrago WR: 90%

You see where this is going, but assumptions are not very good for testing.
Pretty much ended this,
sentiments ftw..
Dec. 14, 2010  5:49 AM
 
Try using RS, it will probably deliver better results as CS is not quite top tier yet.
EDIT: aslo, consider using an MF/ MF-2?
Dec. 14, 2010  5:58 AM
 
(Dec. 14, 2010  5:49 AM)Nojo294 Wrote: Try using RS, it will probably deliver better results as CS is not quite top tier yet.
RS is a bit too good though, basically anything with RS will achieve at least decent results.
CS or WB helps make the tests 'easier to read'.

(Dec. 14, 2010  5:49 AM)Nojo294 Wrote: EDIT: aslo, consider using an MF/ MF-2?
Dan does not own Metal Faces yet, if I remember correctly.

(Dec. 14, 2010  5:26 AM)Dan Wrote: Vulcan Bull C145CS vs Lightning LDrago CH120RF
9 - 1: I'm surprised Vulcan actually one once. Vulcan WR: 10%, LLDrago WR: 90%
This should probably be changed to 1 - 9 since Vulcan Bull C145CS was mentioned first.

Anyway, thanks for the tests!
Dec. 14, 2010  6:11 AM
 
Yeah, I don't have MF's yet.
You can obviously understand why I no longer use WB, and RS pretty much nerf's anything. Pretty much breaking results, almost..
Dec. 14, 2010  6:53 AM
 
(Dec. 14, 2010  5:26 AM)Dan Wrote: Look, I know your gawking at the fact this thread was made, but it had to be.
I just want to make sure nothing is over-looked, and especially posts like '-insert wheel name- is not an attack wheel.' Because I bet that half the time that is said, no one tested it for such a thing. I have doubts due to prior tests such as the one I am about to show you about Vulcans defense capabilities. (Whatever they may be -or not be-.)

I don't know. Just looking at it you can tell that something like Vulcan will suck for Defense. It's that simple.

Has anyone ever really tested Quetzalcoatl or Lightning L Drago or Sagittario for Defense? No, because it's clear just looking at the design of the Wheels themselves that it would be a waste of time. I understand your sentiment, and in some instances it is true. But you have to use common sense as well.
Dec. 14, 2010  8:11 AM
 
(Dec. 14, 2010  6:53 AM)Kei Wrote: I don't know. Just looking at it you can tell that something like Vulcan will suck for Defense. It's that simple.

Has anyone ever really tested Quetzalcoatl or Lightning L Drago or Sagittario for Defense? No, because it's clear just looking at the design of the Wheels themselves that it would be a waste of time. I understand your sentiment, and in some instances it is true. But you have to use common sense as well.
I think Dan did these tests in response to how well Vulcan did as a Defense Wheel (compared to Earth) in these tests by Fyuuor.
Dec. 14, 2010  3:17 PM
 
Very well, I don't really see a point in posting any more results because you can see where it is going. Obviously you would have guessed as much. Tongue_out
Dec. 14, 2010  3:27 PM
 
Never thought that you could use an attack wheel for defense...

off topic: where does vulcan come from?
Dec. 14, 2010  3:35 PM
 
Was that supposed to be some sort of veiled insult..? :U
Look it up, Speechless If you haven't heard of it yet, well then I would be very surprised.
If you read my OP, you would get a feeling of one of the reasons I tested it for Defense.
Tests like this (Defense) should be looked into better.
Dec. 14, 2010  8:12 PM
 
Hmm I also tried using it as a Defense wheel before, but I think the fins (which are usually utilized for attack combo's) produce too much recoil.
Dec. 14, 2010  9:08 PM
 
well it did come with an otherwise defence blade, I haven't ever seen anything else thath out ouf place so maybe there was some intention for it to be used that way.
Dec. 14, 2010  11:19 PM
 
It's funny because you're using C145 and don't have a MF.
MF-H Vulcan Bull GB145WB might do well as a 'bulky attack type' against other attack types, because it will have less recoil.
Dec. 15, 2010  12:37 AM
 
It is funny. :Y
If my Reshuffle comes soon, I could probably do something along those lines.