Thermal Giraffe 105HF

I know, I know. It sounds like a totally junk bey. From my tests, though, it shows some potential against Defense. Don't believe me? Check out the tests

Concept

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Originally, I intended this to be a destabilizing counter for E230 based defenses. However, it turned into a staller that performed well against defense types.

Set Up

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I used the Standard Type Beystadium (Red Floor, BB-46) (I do not own the BB-10 and this is legal in competitive tournaments, so I used it.)
I used a Beylauncher LR

Launch

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Against Stamina: Sliding Shoot
Against all else: Stall

Parts

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Giraffe: This CW left Thermal's contact points mostly open.

Thermal: This MW has minor smash potential and some destabilization characteristics. It also has decent stamina.

105: I don't have access to a 100 or 90 and 85 scrapes too much for me.

HF: This attack oriented tip has decent stamina and does not self-KO in the BB-46 as often as XF does (though looking back on it, XF may have been a better way to go).

Tests:

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Against Defense:

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MSF-H Killerken Reviser E230CS vs Thermal Giraffe 105HF (Reviser launched first each time)
Reviser: 1 Win (1 KO, 0 OS's)
Giraffe: 19 Wins (0 KO's, 19 OS's)
Giraffe Win Percentage: 95%

In Depth Results:

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1. TG OS
2.TG OS
3. TG OS
4. TG OS
5. TG OS
6. TG OS
7. TG OS
8. TG OS
9. TG OS
10. TG OS
11. TG OS
12. TG OS
13. TG OS
14. TG OS
15. TG OS
16. TG OS
17. KR KO
18. TG OS
19. TG OS
20. TG OS

Honestly, I was impressed by these results. After stalling, Giraffe would then push Reviser onto E230 and let him sleep out. The only time this didn't work was when Reviser got knocked off balance at the beginning of the match and attacked.

Against Anti-Attack

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MSF-H Reviser Killerken GB145RF vs Thermal Giraffe 105HF (Alternating launches; Killerken launched first on odds, Giraffe on evens)
Killerken: 12 Wins (8 KO's, 4 OS's)
Giraffe: 8 Wins (3 KO's, 5 OS's)
Giraffe Win Percentage: 40%

In Depth Results:

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1. TG KO
2. TG OS
3. TG OS
4. RK KO
5. TG OS
6. RK KO
7. RK OS
8. RK KO
9. TG OS
10. RK KO
11. RK KO
12. RK OS
13. TG KO
14. RK KO
15. TG KO
16. RK KO
17. RK OS
18. RK OS
19. TG OS
20. RK KO

These were some exciting battles. Giraffe would sometimes barely nudge Killerken out of the stadium when it KO'ed, but when Killerken KO'ed Giraffe- well, we'll just say it was amazing. Also, I noticed that (due to the sheer weight of Reviser Killerken), sometimes Killerken would force smash Giraffe. These are where Killerken's OS's came from.

Against Stamina

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Phantom Bull B:D (Bull is the only decent CW I have access to) vs Thermal Giraffe 105HF (Bull launched first)
Bull: 18 Wins (12 KO's, 6 OS's)
Giraffe: 2 Wins (2 KO's, 0Os's)
Giraffe Win Percentage: 10%
Ties Redone: 1

In Depth Results:

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1. PB KO
2. PB KO
3. PB KO
4. PB OS
5. PB OS
6. PB KO
7. PB OS
8. PB KO
9. PB KO
10. PB KO
11. TG KO
12. PB KO
13. PB KO
14. PB KO
15. PB KO
16. PB OS
16. TG KO
17. PB KO
18. Tie
19. PB KO
20. PB OS
21. PB KO

I bet you're all wondering how a B:D based Stamina type got so many KO's. Simple: The weight of Phantom vs the weight of Thermal provided that all recoil from Thermal's attacks was reflected back on it. Plus, Thermal Giraffe is so light already and has little traction. This resulted in it getting thrown out of the stadium. The two times Giraffe KO'ed Bull were due to upper smash picking Bull completely off of the stadium floor and Giraffe getting a wall save.

Testing Videos:

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MSF-H Killerken Reviser E230CS vs Thermal Giraffe 105HF

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Sorry for the short video, but I have almost no space left on my iPad. These were the basic battles between these two, though

MSF-H Reviser Killerken GB145RF vs Thermal Giraffe 105HF

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Again, sorry for the short video.

Phantom Bull B:D vs Thermal Giraffe 105HF

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Overall

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I think this bey could definitely use some improvements before it is competitive, but I do think that beys similar to this one hold the key to tearing down E230 defenses. It would probably also have better results in the BB-10 where the Tornado Ridge could keep it from KO'ing so easily against heavier beys.

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Wouldn't MF be better than HF? Well I don't see much potential in this combo, its outclassed, but maybe in limited format?

Diablo kerbecs or girago girago bd145r2f are better for anti attack

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

I would have used MF but I don't own one at the moment and I don't have BD145 either. I would have tested this combo out against BD145 based defense if I did. And I think it could be useful in limited format. And thanks for the advice on parts!

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Even based on the tests you gave I seen no potential in this combo what-so-ever. No offense.

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Can you show videos? I'm really not sure if I can believe this...

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@ Kaizer Mostly I wanted to show that some outclassed parts can beat top tier beys. It kind of fell through once I got past the Killerken Reviser test, though.

@ Ultramarine I think I can. Give me a little while to film since I didn't get it on video earlier.

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What condition is your CS in?

EDIT: phantom Cygnus 90mf seems like a much Better choice....

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

It's been worn down so that it's no longer super-aggressive. I last used it in a tournament, and it was legal at that point

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Yes, but I do not have Cygnus, MF, or 90

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@Ultramarine The videos are up in the OP. Sorry they are so short and are lacking battles.

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I'm fairly sure you must use the BB-10 for testing.

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I know that's standard format, but I thought it was alright as long as it was stated it was not standard format and was not a BB-10. Oops

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I might be wrong actually.

With Revizer Killerken E230RSF in BB-10, it really isn't hard to beat. Unless I'm so horribly bad at this sport that I'm completely screwing up, I've tornado stalled an Aquario 90GCF round one of these suckers and it just went Jericho on me. Aquario circled for awhile (woulda been funny if it was 7 ) then the "wall" came a'tumbling down.

Not to take anything away from your tests, I just thought I should put that out there.

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Really? That's cool! So, I guess if you come across a Defense combo like that, just stall? That makes things easier (And yeah, it would've been funny if it had been 7)

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All tests posted in the Beyblade Customizations forum, unless they are in a specific-stadium thread (for instance, "All Stamina Type BeyStadiums Tests here"), need to be conducted in the BeyStadium Attack Type. And of course, for Zero-G tests, any TAKARA-TOMY stadium must be used.

The stadium you used is legal in tournaments, but general tests posted on the site must be done in the BeyStadium Attack Type.

Okay. I won't do it again (unless in the proper thread). Thank you for informing me!

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yeah mf would be better but i guess this combo would be ok in limited format lol

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You really didn't need to bump this thread just to confirm what everyone already said.

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“In the course of twenty crowded years, one parts with many illusions. I did not wish to lose the early ones. Some memories are realities, and are better than anything that can ever happen again.” -Jim Burden (My Ántonia)