Without a bearing tip, why would the left spin bey not give as much spin back to the right spin bey as it took away (at a point)?

It's not like there's some magical difference between left and right spin.

EDIT: Think of this like pokemon, and the left spin bey is spamming pain split.
There's a point where, eventually, an RPM equivalency would be reached, and at that point the better stamina bey should win.

EDIT: Handspun Left Earth (II) Bull 90WD vs. MF Flame Cancer 145S
1-4

Needs more testing, but yeah.


Summary: Unless you're giving the left spin bey some severe advantage, be it bottom, track height, or metal wheel, right and left sping should both be just as effective.

There is nothing magic about left spin.

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Not exactly the same. If you think of it that way, you would have a point but as I stated before, even in the plastic gen beyblades, left spinners, even without a bearing tip, steals spin but wont return it.

That is not true.
Left Spin provides no adavantage over Right Spin other than being less common.

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I posted my plastic collection in the "Beyblade Collection" thread, anyone have any combos to battle in mind?

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Without a bearing tip, why would the left spin bey not give as much spin back to the right spin bey as it took away (at a point)?

It's not like there's some magical difference between left and right spin.

Essentially, it'd be something like osmosis and to do with equilibrium and balance (spare me, I haven't science shizz in 3+ years).

Here's what I said in the random thoughts thread like a month ago (Click to View)

Anyways, would Gravity Perseus DF145ES (Left Spin) be able to steal any spin?

I doubt it'd win against a pure endurance combo, but it can steal spin.

Say you left spin a beyblade and right launch another, the left spin one will 'gain' more momentum from the right spin beyblade. This would also be the same if the roles were reversed.

It's not stealing spin when it decreases RPM's : |

How is it decreasing RPM? If you spun a beyblade to the left with your hand against a right spin beyblade that had been launched normally, provided it's got enough of a rounded shape, the left spinning top will absorb momentum from the normally launched beyblade. This would be the same if the roles were reversed.

It wouldn't be the most effective thing ever, but it certainly does steal enough spin to keep going to near enough when the normally launched beyblade dies.

It only works with a carping free spinning tip.

Tiger Defenser
Wide Survivor
SG Sharp (Left SG)
isn't a zombie for the same reason.

If what you were saying was true, the Right spin bey would steal just as much spin from the left as the left did from the right.

It does.

I'm not talking about zombies or anything; I'm talking about just absorbing or gaining momentum/spin stealing. I'm not saying it'd be effective, I'm saying that because one is spinning one direction the other spinning the other way with less momentum would gain spin from it.

Test it out yourself.

Edit: I understand what you're saying here:

"If what you were saying was true, the Right spin bey would steal just as much spin from the left as the left did from the right."

It does, but it's more a case of the one with less momentum gaining spin and the one with more spin losing momentum, i.e. there is a definite state of equilibrium here.

The same thing happens if you spin Virgo DF145SD with your hand and launched Lightning L Drago DF145SD. I remember cos I showed my brother the 'science' of beyblades and trying to take the mickey mouse by saying it's more scientific than motorsport

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Exctly, but past an RPM equivalency point it would no longer steal any spin, it could even give some back. Essentially the pokemon move "Pain Split". I think <3 would get where I'm going with this.

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I don't know about Pokemon, but eventually the left and right spin beys would have roughly the same amount of RPMs so there wouldn't really be any worthwhile transfer. That's why I said that, when I messed around with this, they finished so close to each other.

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That's exactly what I'm saying.

Glad we've come to the same conclusion.

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Incidentally, I was playing around with Gravity Perseus the other day in an opposite Spin Direction, and Pain Split was exactly what I was thinking about ...

This is how I perceive spin-stealing to work. I guess in a way, it can explain this:

Outspin is the most often method of winning you will experience using this custom, and usually by a very small margin.

edit; late, but pretty much what cpt squirrel said

Ok McFrown, you arent understanding this at all clearly. If you want to try a plastic gen combo that steals spin consistently and almost win EVERY time, use my buddy's best survival combo.

AR: Zeus (forgot the proper name at the moment)
Sub Ring: Galeon (hopefully I got the naming right)
WD: Wide Survivor
SG: Neo Left Casings with Dranzer S bearing Shaft
BB: Spiral Change base( Attack Mode)

Use that against any right spin combo you have and you can even spin it with your hands in the left direction. You will see how it works.

I also understand perfectly what a zombie is, you're just misinterpreting my posts, most likely because you hate me.

I can try a left spin zombie vs. a right spin one, the results should be about 50/50, if not better for the right spin considering I can use Bearing Base for right spin.

Left spin has nothing to do with this.

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You put it in attack mode because that is the only way it works. With the metal tip out, the Life After Death ability doesnt kick in as well. Just try it and you will see.

The reason why that plastic customisation succeeds is Spiral Change Base's monster Life After Death ability. Without Life After Death, Zombies would not be nearly as effective.

Exactly what I mean. LL Drago 100WD has that Life After Death with the help of WD. No other bottom has it better than this yet. D comes close but it isnt as efficient.

I also understand perfectly what a zombie is, you're just misinterpreting my posts, most likely because you hate me.

I can try a left spin zombie vs. a right spin one, the results should be about 50/50, if not better for the right spin considering I can use Bearing Base for right spin.

Left spin has nothing to do with this.

Buried on the last page.

Also I'm sure that:

AR: Bearing Gyro
WD: Wide Survivor
SG: Double Bearing Core
BB: SG Bearing Base 2

One with Neo Left Casings and the other with Neo Right, the results would be a perfect 50-50.

Left spin has nothing to do with it.

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Exactly what I mean. LL Drago 100WD has that Life After Death with the help of WD. No other bottom has it better than this yet. D comes close but it isnt as efficient.

But that's not what we're discussing here.

We're discussing why MF L Drago 90WF is successful, since it obviously has no traditional Life After Death.

How about trying it before assuming? Makes more sense. A bearing base doesnt mean automatically better. The combo I gave you to try shows that clearly. This post was not towards you <3 (hope I got it right).

You obviously have no clue about what I am posting and I will not respond to you any longer.

I think Wobblers could counter this.
And low attackers.
And attackers in general.

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We're discussing why MF L Drago 90WF is successful, since it obviously has no traditional Life After Death.

I think it's because the WF has more balance than the WB, something similar to the fact D series bottoms are better than S series bottoms, even if they have less stamina.

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MF L-Drago 90WF Vs MF Earth Bull C145WB
(10/10) 100% - 0% (0/10)

Hasbro Earth.
MFB Attack Stadium.
Beylauncher L for L-Drago and Beylauncher for Bull.
Earth Bull launched at 70-80% power.
L-Drago launched with straight shoot.

One double-KO.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkdjgGTbEUs

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Has anyone taking sociology or any other classes like it?

Well... sociology is just applied psychology which is just applied biology which is just applied chemistry which is just applied physics which is just applied math.

I'm taking math.

My brain... It burns us...

I tried to help some kid here with combos because his combo was pretty bad. Then he just started going mad and he called me a 'Bossy Watermelon' or something like that.

OR....BB18LIBRA WIL ACCIDENTALLY HIT HIMSELF WITH THE METAL WHEEL AND PASS OUT ON CAMRA.

"And once I've eaten Madoka's special hamburger, I have a hundred times as much energy!"-Ginga

That moment was very awkward for me.

When Benkei saves Ginga from the falling wood, after the dust settles, dear god, it looks like something else.

When Ben-Ben shouts LOWER LOWER LOWER LOWER LOWER, for 2 mins.

Honestly, I think she's doing awfully well, for someone who received a lazar blast from a giant three-headed Dragon Emperor beast and was sent into a coma because of that.

If that happened to me (Assuming I do also wake up from the coma and help Ginga by taking the form of a colored orb) I think I'd be sucking my thumb in the fetal position in a corner of the room everytime I saw Ryuuga's picture.

but i must admit.. nothing can defeat the Dark wheel, that thing is just unstoppable.

Technically, an eagle stands on earth, and flies inside earth... It wouldnt work with galaxy eagle either

... What ?

kai-v is a total hotty.

Somebody please sig this.

This one time i was dared to walk into Costco in nothing but my underwear hand in hand with my GF . I stripped to my plaid boxers but my GF backed out and then I whistled and skipped into the entrance. This kid stared at me with longing eyes before his mom covered it then I was dragged out by the police. Man that was insane!

This thread is full of win.

I was at Costco one time, and without warning, a 40 year old dude in nothing but underwear walks in, whistling. Immediately my parents shield my eyes and police officers grab the dude and start walking him to the police car. Later, word got around that the guy, when interviewed, said he and his girlfriend were dared to walk in to a store together, holding hands and whistling, by his friend. Although he agreed, his GF said no. So he went solo.

A scarring experience, I will admit.

Anyone notice the connection?

Just some testing that needed to be done:

Attack Stadium
Launcher Grip + BeyLauncher for both
MF-L Earth Bull shot first

MF L Drago 100WF vs. MF-L Earth Bull 230CS
MF L Drago 100WF: 0 wins
MF-L Earth Bull 230CS: 10 wins
L Drago win percentage: 0%

MF L Drago CH120WF (120 height) vs. MF-L Earth Bull 230CS
MF L Drago CH120WF: 0 wins
MF-L Earth Bull 230CS: 5 wins
L Drago win percentage: 0%

MF L Drago CH120WF (145 height) vs. MF-L Earth Bull 230CS
MF L Drago CH120WF: 0 wins
MF-L Earth Bull 230CS: 5 wins
L Drago win percentage: 0%

MF L Drago CH120WF (145 height) vs. MF-L Earth Bull 230WD
MF L Drago CH120WF: 4 wins
MF-L Earth Bull 230WD: 6 wins
L Drago win percentage: 40%

MF L Drago 100WF vs. MF-L Earth Bull 230WD
MF L Drago 100WF: 0 wins
MF-L Earth Bull 230WD: 10 wins
L Drago win percentage: 0%

Decided to use CH120 just for fun to see if it made a difference. When on the 145 height against 230WD, three of its wins were by KO, but quite a few of the matches were very, very close.

Hoping that Metal Flat will help rectify this situation, haha.

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So ch120 helped a bit, but only against wd. Could you do the ch120 tests against 100?

Wow. Thought it might do better than that. Did you use any type of shooting technique?

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So ch120 helped a bit, but only against wd. Could you do the ch120 tests against 100?

What do you mean?

Wow. Thought it might do better than that. Did you use any type of shooting technique?

It did pretty much how everything else does against 230. Mix between straight shot and banking.

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Surprised it did so badly even at CH145.. Why? Shouldn't 230 be destabilized by it?

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Surprised it did so badly even at CH145.. Why? Shouldn't 230 be destabilized by it?

Regular 145-based Stamina customs generally have a 50% or less win percentage against 230, remember. So, it didn't do badly by any means. It destabilized 230 quite well, but 230 almost always seemed to be able to squeak out the win.

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