(Feb. 15, 2021 4:57 PM)MagikHorse Wrote: (Feb. 15, 2021 1:18 AM)Dasmind Wrote: A turtle or a dragon carrying a land defines Avalon in enough detail that I can exclude all else and still have it be unique. As you know Longinus avatar is a white dragon with a Spear tail can exclude all else and still have it be unique . Is it clear enough for you?
The turtle on the back thing was already taken by Yggdrasil, so it's not unique. It overall fits something defining an entire world (myths had it being the Earth itself originally) more than just a piece of it, and that's ignoring the fact that turtles don't represent Avalon in any other way so there's an idea disconnect there. Twin dragons might be a possible thing, but even then it's not unique at all given just how many dragons have been released for Burst so far. That's aside from the fact that Avalon was not defined by dragons, and the only dragons I've found in Arthurian legend were used to symbolically represent opposing armies, not the land itself. That connection is tenuous at best and downright terrible at worst. Do that and it really doesn't matter what you call the landmass, because you've cut out every single aspect of what made Avalon special and could replace it with literally any other country in reducing it to just land on the back of something.
Longinus itself is a fusion between two motifs: the Spear of Longinus and the fact that every Beyblade line has a white colored left spin Attack type dragon. The white left-spin dragon motif applied to it is itself as non-unique as you get*, but has instead ingrained itself upon the Beyblade line as a constant. It would make much less sense not to have a white left-spin Attack type dragon than it ever would to skip it at this point, and I'm sure whatever follows after Burst will do the same. Instead of being unique in that idea they decided to enhance this Beyblade constant through adding the Spear of Longinus motif to it, and as a result every Longinus bey has had spear-like snouts as a primary feature. They took a constant and made it unique to their previous attempts at the same idea. Longinus really doesn't exclude much either, between being spear-like in every iteration and given Bloody Longinus' name referencing the original story of the Spear of Longinus to incorporate more of its lore in. The only thing really excluded is the shaft of that spear, which they replaced with an entire dragon instead. That's not quite the sort of exclusion we're talking about here, and the line remains unique in a lot of ways even compared to the preceding left-spin white Attack dragon beys of other generations in that it's something more than just a dragon this time around.
*Short of Lost Longinus literally being Burst's first left-spin layer and the first layer with ingrained metal aside from simple assembly screws, which were both super unique for its time. Also Nightmare Longinus, which is still Burst's most unique layer to date and the only layer not intrinsically compatible with a disk.
Okay, but sadly.
The reason is I saw that they use like livings, events, objects and The tree in that we can see in the Myth world.
So I know that just left places motif in the Myth besides this.
So I wish they will use for a motif as TakaraTomy have enough potential for find so much suitable motif.
Ah, I am wrong, The avatar can be appear like a Floating island, like the Hades Inc.
But can this be a place motif.