Lol really you want to use how he got stronger an 2 episode lets see maybe same way hearts beat aiga in episode 36 than lose an episode 39 or maybe Just like amane Who lost to arthur in episode 23 but win in 25 Just by getting stronger.  Oh wait delta lost to arthur in episode 17 but beat him back 2 episode later lol.  So your gonna use kurtz was numbe 6 years ago huh. I guess your whole winning tournamet argument equal this character is supposed to he stronger than one Who hasnt doesnt mean anything anymore huh. You should know by now it doesnt take much to get stronger an 1 or 2 episode lol

Your argument holds no weight because Aiga came back with a whole new Beyblade and beat hearts and Amane finally got Gold Turbo and beat Arthur, had help resonating with Drum and Delta, plus it was 4 episodes after not 2. Anyway about Kurtz I’m saying he was the best in the world 6 years before god and then disappeared. There is no way he is going to stay at the same strength or stronger bladers wouldn’t show up later on.

was wondering when you were going to make that excuse of it's a new bey or he got gold turbo and that's why the win and not cause the train to get stronger how do you think the amane got gold turbo? he trained to unlock and mastered it in less the 3 episode it Doesn't change the fact that he got stronger same with aiga he train to get better regardless if it's a new bey or not it's his skill that made the difference having a new bey is useless if your not strong  . we don't even know how strong kurtz was to even before to say his strength is not the same are even stronger the guy just stop participating in official match he never stop training or beyblading and the whole it's 4 not 2 episode is weak since since 1 or 2 episode can pass as 2 or 3 days and time defently happen, the fact remains the same the got stronger in very short times while their opponent was also training . and your argument else holds no weight your the same person who scale characters by winning tournaments or using beating someone directly which proves your not good at powerscaling .  look at lean/lane a rookie he beat free that match proves winning tournaments is irrelevant to be stronger than a blader who won tournament's. either way you clearly don't won't to accept shu has become stronger than free same way you refuse to accept valt is better than lui it's more you prefer than being stronger. not that it's a problem everyone has the favourites but don't use those type of argument to justified a characters strength even it's been proven that it won't help

I’m not the one quoting Cho-Z I’m just debunking his theories. Plus Drum didn’t beat Aiga and he didn’t win the battle island either.

In the og manga Drum beat AIga and won the battle island. The manga is the original source, so its better to go with it.

What?!? The manga has nothing to do with the anime. We’ve been talking about the anime the whole time.

In the og manga Drum beat AIga and won the battle island. The manga is the original source, so its better to go with it.

What?!? The manga has nothing to do with the anime. We’ve been talking about the anime the whole time.

To be honest, the power levels between the anime and manga usually aren’t very much different anyways.

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Not bad eh?

In the og manga Drum beat AIga and won the battle island. The manga is the original source, so its better to go with it.

What?!? The manga has nothing to do with the anime. We’ve been talking about the anime the whole time.

Not gonna lie more people watch the anime than the manga so I think that the manga does not apply in versus battles. Had the anime been more closer to the manga than yes I would say that the manga is applicable to these kind of situations.

Your argument holds no weight because Aiga came back with a whole new Beyblade and beat hearts and Amane finally got Gold Turbo and beat Arthur, had help resonating with Drum and Delta, plus it was 4 episodes after not 2. Anyway about Kurtz I’m saying he was the best in the world 6 years before god and then disappeared. There is no way he is going to stay at the same strength or stronger bladers wouldn’t show up later on.

was wondering when you were going to make that excuse of it's a new bey or he got gold turbo and that's why the win and not cause the train to get stronger how do you think the amane got gold turbo? he trained to unlock and mastered it in less the 3 episode it Doesn't change the fact that he got stronger same with aiga he train to get better regardless if it's a new bey or not it's his skill that made the difference having a new bey is useless if your not strong  . we don't even know how strong kurtz was to even before to say his strength is not the same are even stronger the guy just stop participating in official match he never stop training or beyblading and the whole it's 4 not 2 episode is weak since since 1 or 2 episode can pass as 2 or 3 days and time defently happen, the fact remains the same the got stronger in very short times while their opponent was also training . and your argument else holds no weight your the same person who scale characters by winning tournaments or using beating someone directly which proves your not good at powerscaling .  look at lean/lane a rookie he beat free that match proves winning tournaments is irrelevant to be stronger than a blader who won tournament's. either way you clearly don't won't to accept shu has become stronger than free same way you refuse to accept valt is better than lui it's more you prefer than being stronger. not that it's a problem everyone has the favourites

I hope you know it’s impossible to train in the middle of a team battle. Aiga upgraded his bey the a burst locking bey so obviously that’s why he won. He already lost to Heartz twice with Z/Zet Achilles then got Cho-Z.

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Your argument holds no weight because Aiga came back with a whole new Beyblade and beat hearts and Amane finally got Gold Turbo and beat Arthur, had help resonating with Drum and Delta, plus it was 4 episodes after not 2. Anyway about Kurtz I’m saying he was the best in the world 6 years before god and then disappeared. There is no way he is going to stay at the same strength or stronger bladers wouldn’t show up later on.

was wondering when you were going to make that excuse of it's a new bey or he got gold turbo and that's why the win and not cause the train to get stronger how do you think the amane got gold turbo? he trained to unlock and mastered it in less the 3 episode it Doesn't change the fact that he got stronger same with aiga he train to get better regardless if it's a new bey or not it's his skill that made the difference having a new bey is useless if your not strong  . we don't even know how strong kurtz was to even before to say his strength is not the same are even stronger the guy just stop participating in official match he never stop training or beyblading and the whole it's 4 not 2 episode is weak since since 1 or 2 episode can pass as 2 or 3 days and time defently happen, the fact remains the same the got stronger in very short times while their opponent was also training . and your argument else holds no weight your the same person who scale characters by winning tournaments or using beating someone directly which proves your not good at powerscaling .  look at lean/lane a rookie he beat free that match proves winning tournaments is irrelevant to be stronger than a blader who won tournament's. either way you clearly don't won't to accept shu has become stronger than free same way you refuse to accept valt is better than lui it's more you prefer than being stronger. not that it's a problem everyone has the favourites but don't use those type of argument to justified a characters strength even it's been proven that it won't help

There’s a big difference between regular battles and tournament battles. I don’t understand how you say winning a tournament means nothing because it does. Tournament battle go to 3 while regular battle go to 2. Plus blader try way harder during tournaments.

was wondering when you were going to make that excuse of it's a new bey or he got gold turbo and that's why the win and not cause the train to get stronger how do you think the amane got gold turbo? he trained to unlock and mastered it in less the 3 episode it Doesn't change the fact that he got stronger same with aiga he train to get better regardless if it's a new bey or not it's his skill that made the difference having a new bey is useless if your not strong  . we don't even know how strong kurtz was to even before to say his strength is not the same are even stronger the guy just stop participating in official match he never stop training or beyblading and the whole it's 4 not 2 episode is weak since since 1 or 2 episode can pass as 2 or 3 days and time defently happen, the fact remains the same the got stronger in very short times while their opponent was also training . and your argument else holds no weight your the same person who scale characters by winning tournaments or using beating someone directly which proves your not good at powerscaling .  look at lean/lane a rookie he beat free that match proves winning tournaments is irrelevant to be stronger than a blader who won tournament's. either way you clearly don't won't to accept shu has become stronger than free same way you refuse to accept valt is better than lui it's more you prefer than being stronger. not that it's a problem everyone has the favourites

I hope you know it’s impossible to train in the middle of a team battle. Aiga upgraded his bey the a burst locking bey so obviously that’s why he won. He already lost to Heartz twice with Z/Zet Achilles then got Cho-Z.

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was wondering when you were going to make that excuse of it's a new bey or he got gold turbo and that's why the win and not cause the train to get stronger how do you think the amane got gold turbo? he trained to unlock and mastered it in less the 3 episode it Doesn't change the fact that he got stronger same with aiga he train to get better regardless if it's a new bey or not it's his skill that made the difference having a new bey is useless if your not strong  . we don't even know how strong kurtz was to even before to say his strength is not the same are even stronger the guy just stop participating in official match he never stop training or beyblading and the whole it's 4 not 2 episode is weak since since 1 or 2 episode can pass as 2 or 3 days and time defently happen, the fact remains the same the got stronger in very short times while their opponent was also training . and your argument else holds no weight your the same person who scale characters by winning tournaments or using beating someone directly which proves your not good at powerscaling .  look at lean/lane a rookie he beat free that match proves winning tournaments is irrelevant to be stronger than a blader who won tournament's. either way you clearly don't won't to accept shu has become stronger than free same way you refuse to accept valt is better than lui it's more you prefer than being stronger. not that it's a problem everyone has the favourites but don't use those type of argument to justified a characters strength even it's been proven that it won't help

There’s a big difference between regular battles and tournament battles. I don’t understand how you say winning a tournament means nothing because it does. Tournament battle go to 3 while regular battle go to 2. Plus blader try way harder during tournaments.

In the anime it is said that infinite lock beys can only be successfully utilized by bladers with the strongest bonds so it would actually mean Shu has a better bond than Free. Not all bladers only try harder during tournaments and tournaments battles are 2 points while only semi finals and finals are 3.

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Not bad eh?

I hope you know it’s impossible to train in the middle of a team battle. Aiga upgraded his bey the a burst locking bey so obviously that’s why he won. He already lost to Heartz twice with Z/Zet Achilles then got Cho-Z.

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There’s a big difference between regular battles and tournament battles. I don’t understand how you say winning a tournament means nothing because it does. Tournament battle go to 3 while regular battle go to 2. Plus blader try way harder during tournaments.

In the anime it is said that infinite lock beys can only be successfully utilized by bladers with the strongest bonds so it would actually mean Shu has a better bond than Free. Not all bladers only try harder during tournaments and tournaments battles are 2 points while only semi finals and finals are 3.

First thing, it’s not infinite lock it’s burst stoppers. Infinite Lock is Genesis and Apocalypse. Second thing, no it’s by strongest launch and that makes no sense and is totally unfair because Free doesn’t have a burst stopping Beyblade. Plus do you really thing Free wouldn’t be able to unlock his burst stoppers. At this point I feel like you guys are just saying stuff.

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I hope you know it’s impossible to train in the middle of a team battle. Aiga upgraded his bey the a burst locking bey so obviously that’s why he won. He already lost to Heartz twice with Z/Zet Achilles then got Cho-Z.

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There’s a big difference between regular battles and tournament battles. I don’t understand how you say winning a tournament means nothing because it does. Tournament battle go to 3 while regular battle go to 2. Plus blader try way harder during tournaments.

In the anime it is said that infinite lock beys can only be successfully utilized by bladers with the strongest bonds so it would actually mean Shu has a better bond than Free. Not all bladers only try harder during tournaments and tournaments battles are 2 points while only semi finals and finals are 3.

That was only for the international blader cup (which was a one time thing). The tournament in season one had battle up to 3

I like how you keep using tournaments means something despite lane priven other wise.  And more exuse tournament goes to 3 point while none goes to 2 lol. You do know that 2 point matches are official match like the 3 point matches right? Have you forgetten the longinus cup Which was a tournament an 2 points give you the win aside from the final theirs not only 3 point tournaments ? The try harder in tournament so you saying free vs phi or shu ve phi they werent trying hard to the point the let their beys get broken huh guess lui is safe then the can make exuses For him when he loses to lean/lane cause its not a tournament And he wasnt trying .  Your Just going to find all the excuses to justifyed that winning tournamet thing huh.

In the og manga Drum beat AIga and won the battle island. The manga is the original source, so its better to go with it.

What?!? The manga has nothing to do with the anime. We’ve been talking about the anime the whole time.

yes it does lol. The manga and anime can be different, but power levels are consistent, along with other things. If Delta had his battle and battle island was finished, Drum would still won.

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In the anime it is said that infinite lock beys can only be successfully utilized by bladers with the strongest bonds so it would actually mean Shu has a better bond than Free. Not all bladers only try harder during tournaments and tournaments battles are 2 points while only semi finals and finals are 3.

First thing, it’s not infinite lock it’s burst stoppers. Infinite Lock is Genesis and Apocalypse. Second thing, no it’s by strongest launch and that makes no sense and is totally unfair because Free doesn’t have a burst stopping Beyblade. Plus do you really thing Free wouldn’t be able to unlock his burst stoppers. At this point I feel like you guys are just saying stuff.

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In the anime it is said that infinite lock beys can only be successfully utilized by bladers with the strongest bonds so it would actually mean Shu has a better bond than Free. Not all bladers only try harder during tournaments and tournaments battles are 2 points while only semi finals and finals are 3.

That was only for the international blader cup (which was a one time thing). The tournament in season one had battle up to 3

The fact that Shu has a burst stopping bey and can use it says alot tho. And 2 and 3 point matches still count, only 1 point matches aren't official.

Both infinity lock And burst stoppers requied skills cause you can fail to activate them. And how this about fair And not fair its a gimmick thats 50/50 it can be overcome if you go For it kit almost got it on valt to the point valt had to finish it fast And both aiga And valt burst each other by doing the same phi straight up use brute strenght. In fact having busrt stoppers or infinity lock makes you more vulnerable cause the weakiness is clear you constantlty have to wacth out more than before

In the anime it is said that infinite lock beys can only be successfully utilized by bladers with the strongest bonds so it would actually mean Shu has a better bond than Free. Not all bladers only try harder during tournaments and tournaments battles are 2 points while only semi finals and finals are 3.

First thing, it’s not infinite lock it’s burst stoppers. Infinite Lock is Genesis and Apocalypse. Second thing, no it’s by strongest launch and that makes no sense and is totally unfair because Free doesn’t have a burst stopping Beyblade. Plus do you really thing Free wouldn’t be able to unlock his burst stoppers. At this point I feel like you guys are just saying stuff.

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In the anime it is said that infinite lock beys can only be successfully utilized by bladers with the strongest bonds so it would actually mean Shu has a better bond than Free. Not all bladers only try harder during tournaments and tournaments battles are 2 points while only semi finals and finals are 3.

That was only for the international blader cup (which was a one time thing). The tournament in season one had battle up to 3

Actually it was mentioned that only bladers with powerful bonds could control awakening beys (my bad on getting the system wrong). You can watch the anime for proof since I really don’t wanna go and quote the anime. Besides, Shu is ranked higher than Free anyways so he is by default the better blader otherwise the manga writers wouldn’t rank him that high based off of nothing. Free being more powerful than Shu has really never been suggested or hinted at aside from before he got Spriggan Requiem. If we are not thinking of the past and staying on the present then it’s undoubtedly Shu. Shu has had way stronger bonds with his bey, is a more important character, has had advanced beys in a system and is just generally favoured by the writers since he was pretty much the second most important character in s1 and s2. Basing a bladers strength based on feats like tournament wins is not a good way to judge current strength. If things were like that then Lui would still be far better than Valt and Shu which we all know is wrong. The whole Free beat Lui 3-1 while Shu beat him 3-2 is also not a very great argument either since Shu did break Longinus and they did it to make the battle get dragged on not to mention the fact that Lui was seen training for the finals. Shu beat both Valt and Kurt 2-1 and broke Valkyrie but would you still say Kurt is better than Valt? No. That applies here too.

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Not bad eh?

Both infinity lock And burst stoppers requied skills cause you can fail to activate them. And how this about fair And not fair its a gimmick thats 50/50 it can be overcome if you go For it kit almost got it on valt to the point valt had to finish it fast And both aiga And valt burst each other by doing the same phi straight up use brute strenght. In fact having busrt stoppers or infinity lock makes you more vulnerable cause the weakiness is clear you constantlty have to wacth out more than before

Anime logic can still dictate some of those things, like Aiga resisting against Shu in episode 48 (Cho Z). The Infinite Lock has a similar situation like how Gwynn resisted against Drum in episode 38 (GT). I'm not saying they're broken, but they are no where near a weakness when people can just power through it.

Anyway, Shu is higher than Free in the manga rankings. Either equal, or Shu is stronger period.

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Brave Valkyrie is my favorite bey, and Valt is my favorite character even if he's a bit overrated.

Both infinity lock And burst stoppers requied skills cause you can fail to activate them. And how this about fair And not fair its a gimmick thats 50/50 it can be overcome if you go For it kit almost got it on valt to the point valt had to finish it fast And both aiga And valt burst each other by doing the same phi straight up use brute strenght. In fact having busrt stoppers or infinity lock makes you more vulnerable cause the weakiness is clear you constantlty have to wacth out more than before

Anime logic can still dictate some of those things, like Aiga resisting against Shu in episode 48 (Cho Z). The Infinite Lock has a similar situation like how Gwynn resisted against Drum in episode 38 (GT). I'm not saying they're broken, but they are no where near a weakness when people can just power through it.

Anyway, Shu is higher than Free in the manga rankings. Either equal, or Shu is stronger period.

i mean I never said they can't be resist or they don't help a bit that's why I said it's a 50/50 gimmick it's not full proof .  I just point out their not invincible as intended and their more vulnerable cause of the constant worrying about getting power through to get burst.  but yea it not also impossible to resist it.

This is a very hard one to nail down. I've wondered about this myself. When you compare them in Evolution, I might give it to Free. When you look at both they're battles against Lui, Free more handily defeates Lui while Shu has a rougher go of it. Free defeated him 3-1, Shu 3-2. Then we have they're matches against Phi, where Shu was able to burst Dread Phoenix and Free was not. It's a really hard matchup. They're both extremely powerful bladers, and as far as I'm concerned, they're both close in power. When looking at it though, let's keep personal preferences out if it. Some have said they like Shu and Free more than Valt which is fine, but it doesn't really have anything to do with their power levels.

I think Free is more powerful then Shu because Free has only lost a couple times in the anime were Shu has lost A few more times then free

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The two rivals that wanted a rematch in God but never did. Based on showings I'd argue Shu. But based on battle proficient, Free's defeated opponents Shu's had to struggle a bit harder against.

And I know this doesn't count, but Shu trained Lean (....Ren...Lane? I don't think the dub is calling him Lean cuz of the drug), who beat Free?

I like how you keep using tournaments means something despite lane priven other wise.  And more exuse tournament goes to 3 point while none goes to 2 lol. You do know that 2 point matches are official match like the 3 point matches right? Have you forgetten the longinus cup Which was a tournament an 2 points give you the win aside from the final theirs not only 3 point tournaments ? The try harder in tournament so you saying free vs phi or shu ve phi they werent trying hard to the point the let their beys get broken huh guess lui is safe then the can make exuses For him when he loses to lean/lane cause its not a tournament And he wasnt trying .  Your Just going to find all the excuses to justifyed that winning tournamet thing huh.

Bro we haven’t seen lane battle in the anime. Everyone knows past battles don’t mean anything. Plus Free has Geist Fafnir.

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This is a very hard one to nail down. I've wondered about this myself. When you compare them in Evolution, I might give it to Free. When you look at both they're battles against Lui, Free more handily defeates Lui while Shu has a rougher go of it. Free defeated him 3-1, Shu 3-2. Then we have they're matches against Phi, where Shu was able to burst Dread Phoenix and Free was not. It's a really hard matchup. They're both extremely powerful bladers, and as far as I'm concerned, they're both close in power. When looking at it though, let's keep personal preferences out if it. Some have said they like Shu and Free more than Valt which is fine, but it doesn't really have anything to do with their power levels.

Shu didn’t burst Pheonix

I like how you keep using tournaments means something despite lane priven other wise.  And more exuse tournament goes to 3 point while none goes to 2 lol. You do know that 2 point matches are official match like the 3 point matches right? Have you forgetten the longinus cup Which was a tournament an 2 points give you the win aside from the final theirs not only 3 point tournaments ? The try harder in tournament so you saying free vs phi or shu ve phi they werent trying hard to the point the let their beys get broken huh guess lui is safe then the can make exuses For him when he loses to lean/lane cause its not a tournament And he wasnt trying .  Your Just going to find all the excuses to justifyed that winning tournamet thing huh.

Bro we haven’t seen lane battle in the anime. Everyone knows past battles don’t mean anything. Plus Free has Geist Fafnir.

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This is a very hard one to nail down. I've wondered about this myself. When you compare them in Evolution, I might give it to Free. When you look at both they're battles against Lui, Free more handily defeates Lui while Shu has a rougher go of it. Free defeated him 3-1, Shu 3-2. Then we have they're matches against Phi, where Shu was able to burst Dread Phoenix and Free was not. It's a really hard matchup. They're both extremely powerful bladers, and as far as I'm concerned, they're both close in power. When looking at it though, let's keep personal preferences out if it. Some have said they like Shu and Free more than Valt which is fine, but it doesn't really have anything to do with their power levels.

Shu didn’t burst Pheonix

Phoenix did burst when it hit the floor so he was pretty close to a burst finish not to mention that he did it extremely fast to the point where there wasn’t even enough time for the armor to come off. Lane did beat Mirage Fafnir in the manga as and power in the manga is pretty much the same as the anime.

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Not bad eh?

I’m just going to leave it at this. They are tied as of right now. You can argue who you want but if we’re being serious they’re pretty much tied. My personal opinion is Free is better but the facts are that they are tied. But at the end of God Free is stronger no doubt, and in Cho-Z they’re pretty much tied as A they both lost to Phi. People who like phi say Shu had times to prepare (which he did) but Phi used new moves on Shu plus Shu almost won off of ring-outs. For Free no one had seen Dead Pheonix in battle or what it does so they were both at disadvantages. I’m going to go as far to say through seasons 1-5 (counting all battles) Free is better than Shu. But as of right now they are tied.

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Bro we haven’t seen lane battle in the anime. Everyone knows past battles don’t mean anything. Plus Free has Geist Fafnir.

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Shu didn’t burst Pheonix

Phoenix did burst when it hit the floor so he was pretty close. Lane did beat Mirage Fafnir in the manga as well and power in the manga is pretty much the same as the anime.

The manga is super different than the anime. No one is talking about the manga except you. We’re talking anime. No matter what you say the manga is totally different.

Honestly this thread is kind of redundant unless we’re talking about season 2

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Not bad eh?

First thing, it’s not infinite lock it’s burst stoppers. Infinite Lock is Genesis and Apocalypse. Second thing, no it’s by strongest launch and that makes no sense and is totally unfair because Free doesn’t have a burst stopping Beyblade. Plus do you really thing Free wouldn’t be able to unlock his burst stoppers. At this point I feel like you guys are just saying stuff.

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That was only for the international blader cup (which was a one time thing). The tournament in season one had battle up to 3

Actually it was mentioned that only bladers with powerful bonds could control awakening beys (my bad on getting the system wrong). You can watch the anime for proof since I really don’t wanna go and quote the anime. Besides, Shu is ranked higher than Free anyways so he is by default the better blader otherwise the manga writers wouldn’t rank him that high based off of nothing. Free being more powerful than Shu has really never been suggested or hinted at aside from before he got Spriggan Requiem. If we are not thinking of the past and staying on the present then it’s undoubtedly Shu. Shu has had way stronger bonds with his bey, is a more important character, has had advanced beys in a system and is just generally favoured by the writers since he was pretty much the second most important character in s1 and s2. Basing a bladers strength based on feats like tournament wins is not a good way to judge current strength. If things were like that then Lui would still be far better than Valt and Shu which we all know is wrong. The whole Free beat Lui 3-1 while Shu beat him 3-2 is also not a very great argument either since Shu did break Longinus and they did it to make the battle get dragged on not to mention the fact that Lui was seen training for the finals. Shu beat both Valt and Kurt 2-1 and broke Valkyrie but would you still say Kurt is better than Valt? No. That applies here too.

So long story short, it would be really cool for Shu and Free to have an intense serious battle to settle this once and for all.

I’m just going to leave it at this. They are tied as of right now. You can argue who you want but if we’re being serious they’re pretty much tied. My personal opinion is Free is better but the facts are that they are tied. But at the end of God Free is stronger no doubt, and in Cho-Z they’re pretty much tied as A they both lost to Phi. People who like phi say Shu had times to prepare (which he did) but Phi used new moves on Shu plus Shu almost won off of ring-outs. For Free no one had seen Dead Pheonix in battle or what it does so they were both at disadvantages. I’m going to go as far to say through seasons 1-5 (counting all battles) Free is better than Shu. But as of right now they are tied.

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Phoenix did burst when it hit the floor so he was pretty close. Lane did beat Mirage Fafnir in the manga as well and power in the manga is pretty much the same as the anime.

The manga is super different than the anime. No one is talking about the manga except you. We’re talking anime. No matter what you say the manga is totally different.

The power of bladers in the manga is the exact same as in the anime and it’s only the order and unfolding of events that is particularly different alongside some exclusive beys. Also, if they wanted Free and Shu to be tied in Cho z they would have given him an awakening bey but they didn’t. Shu beat Aiga 4-0 while Free only beat him 3-0 and later 2-0. Aside from past statistics, tournaments and point differences what proof actually suggests Free is better? Shu is literally referred to as a legendary blader in Cho z and he was the one Valt turned to in order to snap Aiga into his senses. Free isn’t even meant to be better than Shu at all. If he was wouldn’t he have a bigger role in cho z?

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Not bad eh?

I’m just going to leave it at this. They are tied as of right now. You can argue who you want but if we’re being serious they’re pretty much tied. My personal opinion is Free is better but the facts are that they are tied. But at the end of God Free is stronger no doubt, and in Cho-Z they’re pretty much tied as A they both lost to Phi. People who like phi say Shu had times to prepare (which he did) but Phi used new moves on Shu plus Shu almost won off of ring-outs. For Free no one had seen Dead Pheonix in battle or what it does so they were both at disadvantages. I’m going to go as far to say through seasons 1-5 (counting all battles) Free is better than Shu. But as of right now they are tied.

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The manga is super different than the anime. No one is talking about the manga except you. We’re talking anime. No matter what you say the manga is totally different.

The power of bladers in the manga is the exact same as in the anime and it’s only the order and unfolding of events that is particularly different alongside some exclusive beys. Also, if they wanted Free and Shu to be tied in Cho z they would have given him an awakening bey but they didn’t. Shu beat Aiga 4-0 while Free only beat him 3-0 and later 2-0. Aside from past statistics, tournaments and point differences what proof actually suggests Free is better? Shu is literally referred to as a legendary blader in Cho z and he was the one Valt turned to in order to snap Aiga into his senses. Free isn’t even meant to be better than Shu at all. If he was wouldn’t he have a bigger role in cho z?

Free beat Aiga 5-0 in the same episode. Since when wasn’t Free referred to as a legendary blader? Just because Valt turned to Shu that doesn’t make him better at all. You’re just saying random stuff at this point. Plus look up at my last post.

The power of bladers in the manga is the exact same as in the anime and it’s only the order and unfolding of events that is particularly different alongside some exclusive beys. Also, if they wanted Free and Shu to be tied in Cho z they would have given him an awakening bey but they didn’t. Shu beat Aiga 4-0 while Free only beat him 3-0 and later 2-0. Aside from past statistics, tournaments and point differences what proof actually suggests Free is better? Shu is literally referred to as a legendary blader in Cho z and he was the one Valt turned to in order to snap Aiga into his senses. Free isn’t even meant to be better than Shu at all. If he was wouldn’t he have a bigger role in cho z?

Free beat Aiga 5-0 in the same episode. Since when wasn’t Free referred to as a legendary blader? Just because Valt turned to Shu that doesn’t make him better at all. You’re just saying random stuff at this point. Plus look up at my last post.

Free was not called a legendary blader in season 3. Valt and Shu were called legendary as a nod to who powerful they are. Free did not beat Aiga 5-0 there were two seperate battles. And Valt turning to Shu makes sense because at the time there was no Cho z Valkyrie or Dead Phoenix so Shu was likely the strongest and the only one who could put Aiga in his place in hopes of making him come to a realization. Saying that Free is better Than Shu because he beat Lui 3-1 is what is really random.

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Free beat Aiga 5-0 in the same episode. Since when wasn’t Free referred to as a legendary blader? Just because Valt turned to Shu that doesn’t make him better at all. You’re just saying random stuff at this point. Plus look up at my last post.

Free was not called a legendary blader in season 3. Valt and Shu were called legendary as a nod to who powerful they are. Free did not beat Aiga 5-0 there were two seperate battles. And Valt turning to Shu makes sense because at the time there was no Cho z Valkyrie or Dead Phoenix so Shu was likely the strongest and the only one who could put Aiga in his place in hopes of making him come to a realization. Saying that Free is better Than Shu because he beat Lui 3-1 is what is really random.

If you count Free’s battles as separate I hope you know Shu’s are too. After Aiga lost the first one he begged Shu to battle him again in which Fubuki tried to stop but Shu agreed. If you want a breakdown here 
Shu vs Opponents. 

Lui: 1-2 

Valt: 5-1 

Free 0-1 

Aiga 6-1 

Free vs Opponents. 

Lui 1-1 

Valt: 9-1 

Shu 1-0 

Aiga 2-0