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Can you use Customize Grip base Tip (Dragoon V2) in Customize Bearing Base?

If yes... how? (all SG/BB customization)
If not... Is there any offensive tip that could be used in Customize Bearing Base? (not counting Uriel 2's tip, too rare)

Thanks guys
A purchase consultation here...

http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-30-Dran...SKHR0BS971

I want to buy some blades with a maximum expenditure of $ 40. So just look at the blades in the "Customers who brought this item also brought" section and let me know.
Thanks in advance

EDIT: i narrowed it down to the following
Dragoon F : http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-29-Drag...SYZ207K696
Dranzer S: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-Dranzer-S...4VH4MZG6JZ
Dranzer F: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-30-Dran...SKHR0BS971
Dranzer V: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Beyblade-To...4VH4MZG6JZ
Draciel G: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Beyblade-Re...4VH4MZG6JZ
Draciel F: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-32-Drac...3FVKE1PF28
Driger S: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-Driger-Sp...AMR59SW5C9
Burning Kerberous : http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Japanese-Be...AMR59SW5C9
(Apr. 27, 2015  12:49 PM)Dragoon. Wrote: A purchase consultation here...

http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-30-Dran...SKHR0BS971

I want to buy some blades with a maximum expenditure of $ 40. So just look at the blades in the "Customers who brought this item also brought" section and let me know.
Thanks in advance

EDIT: i narrowed it down to the following
Dragoon F : http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-29-Drag...SYZ207K696
Dranzer S: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-Dranzer-S...4VH4MZG6JZ
Dranzer F: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-30-Dran...SKHR0BS971
Dranzer V: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Beyblade-To...4VH4MZG6JZ
Draciel G: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Beyblade-Re...4VH4MZG6JZ
Draciel F: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-32-Drac...3FVKE1PF28
Driger S: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-Driger-Sp...AMR59SW5C9
Burning Kerberous : http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Japanese-Be...AMR59SW5C9

Alright, I´ll be honest, for your own good:

Forget about buying that Dragoon F, Dranzer F, S and V, Draciel F and Driger S, immediately. They are all fake. They are illegal for official WBO play and made of very poor material, so they´ll break easily. The only real beyblades are released by Takara, Hasbro and Sonokong. That "SOK" sells only fake "Top Blades".

Dragoon, Dranzer, Draciel and Driger are never that cheap NIB. If you find a listing that´s less than 30 for a NIB bey of those four, that is already highly suspicious (exception: if the seller is a friend of yours).

Those fake beys may be a lot cheaper, but they are - sorry to say so - just a load of carp and not even worth a single buck, not for competitive use and also not for collective purposes.

As for Draciel G and Burning Kerberous, they seem to be real. Draciel G has the original Sonokong box and the price is also realistic. Same for Burning Kerberous, if it´s without the box and maybe used, the price is realistic. We don´t have the box or closer pic to tell from any logo, but since the seller is Takara Tomy, I highly doubt that it´s fake.

So you can buy the Takara BK and SK Draciel G, they´re ok. But please consider that SK beyblades are "real" ones, but the material is of a poorer quality than Takara (not as poor as a fake´s though). If you want to buy beyblades that are definitely real Takara beyblades for kinda acceptable prices, I´d recommend Oki´s shop: http://tokutakutoys-bey.ocnk.biz/
You can also contact him directly on WBO and he´ll manage to get the ones you´re looking for, not too expensive: http://worldbeyblade.org/User-OkinawamTS

If you want to continue shopping beyblades on amazon, just read this thread, so that you can tell by yourself which ones are fake:
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-thefligh...-searching
(Apr. 27, 2015  12:49 PM)Dragoon. Wrote: A purchase consultation here...

http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-30-Dran...SKHR0BS971

I want to buy some blades with a maximum expenditure of $ 40. So just look at the blades in the "Customers who brought this item also brought" section and let me know.
Thanks in advance

I didnt open all links, but for most of them NIB, $20 is ok. if you are from US then good for you.

( EDITED: opened them all now)

Dranzer and Dragoon beys always cost a little more than $20.

I think 88powerpig88 is on wbo. BUZZETOY (Asian seller, i think) I think I read about him somewhere in buy old gen beys thread. I think it was the "how to use YJA" thread. He was mentioned as one the good asian sellers. Not sure, check it out. I dont know about "anytoyshop" and zendo japan however.
(Apr. 27, 2015  3:21 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote:
(Apr. 27, 2015  12:49 PM)Dragoon. Wrote: A purchase consultation here...

http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-30-Dran...SKHR0BS971

I want to buy some blades with a maximum expenditure of $ 40. So just look at the blades in the "Customers who brought this item also brought" section and let me know.
Thanks in advance

EDIT: i narrowed it down to the following
Dragoon F : http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-29-Drag...SYZ207K696
Dranzer S: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-Dranzer-S...4VH4MZG6JZ
Dranzer F: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-30-Dran...SKHR0BS971
Dranzer V: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Beyblade-To...4VH4MZG6JZ
Draciel G: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Beyblade-Re...4VH4MZG6JZ
Draciel F: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-A-32-Drac...3FVKE1PF28
Driger S: http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade-Driger-Sp...AMR59SW5C9
Burning Kerberous : http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Japanese-Be...AMR59SW5C9

Alright, I´ll be honest, for your own good:

Forget about buying that Dragoon F, Dranzer F, S and V, Draciel F and Driger S, immediately. They are all fake. They are illegal for official WBO play and made of very poor material, so they´ll break easily. The only real beyblades are released by Takara, Hasbro and Sonokong. That "SOK" sells only fake "Top Blades".

Dragoon, Dranzer, Draciel and Driger are never that cheap NIB. If you find a listing that´s less than 30 for a NIB bey of those four, that is already highly suspicious (exception: if the seller is a friend of yours).

Those fake beys may be a lot cheaper, but they are - sorry to say so - just a load of carp and not even worth a single buck, not for competitive use and also not for collective purposes.

As for Draciel G and Burning Kerberous, they seem to be real. Draciel G has the original Sonokong box and the price is also realistic. Same for Burning Kerberous, if it´s without the box and maybe used, the price is realistic. We don´t have the box or closer pic to tell from any logo, but since the seller is Takara Tomy, I highly doubt that it´s fake.

So you can buy the Takara BK and SK Draciel G, they´re ok. But please consider that SK beyblades are "real" ones, but the material is of a poorer quality than Takara (not as poor as a fake´s though). If you want to buy beyblades that are definitely real Takara beyblades for kinda acceptable prices, I´d recommend Oki´s shop: http://tokutakutoys-bey.ocnk.biz/
You can also contact him directly on WBO and he´ll manage to get the ones you´re looking for, not too expensive: http://worldbeyblade.org/User-OkinawamTS

If you want to continue shopping beyblades on amazon, just read this thread, so that you can tell by yourself which ones are fake:
http://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-thefligh...-searching

Thanks for the warning, was jusr about to purchase them. But it did kinda break my heart. Anyway thanks.

TigerChopsticks- Beaten by a second, huh?
(Apr. 27, 2015  3:21 PM)TigerChopsticks Wrote: but for most of them NIB, $20 is ok.

For real ones it would be a bargain, but for fakes it´s just a bad joke.

Edit:
(Apr. 27, 2015  3:21 PM)TigerChopsticks Wrote: ( EDITED: opened them all now)

Dranzer and Dragoon beys always cost a little more than $20.

I think 88powerpig88 is on wbo. BUZZETOY (Asian seller, i think) I think I read about him somewhere in buy old gen beys thread. I think it was the "how to use YJA" thread. He was mentioned as one the good asian sellers. Not sure, check it out. I dont know about "anytoyshop" and zendo japan however.

Not only a little more.

It doesn´t matter whether the sellers are on WBO or recommended anywhere else, if the beyblades are fake, as a matter of fact. Just read that "how to tell it´s fake etc"-thread I linked in my last post and see for yourself.
(Apr. 27, 2015  3:21 PM)~Stoney~ Wrote: Forget about buying that Dragoon F, Dranzer F, S and V, Draciel F and Driger S, immediately. They are all fake. They are illegal for official WBO play and made of very poor material, so they´ll break easily. The only real beyblades are released by Takara, Hasbro and Sonokong. That "SOK" sells only fake "Top Blades".

...

As for Draciel G and Burning Kerberous, they seem to be real. Draciel G has the original Sonokong box and the price is also realistic. Same for Burning Kerberous, if it´s without the box and maybe used, the price is realistic. We don´t have the box or closer pic to tell from any logo, but since the seller is Takara Tomy, I highly doubt that it´s fake.

I know it's probably a bad move to question you about Plastics since you're much more knowledgeable, but wasn't SOK the symbol/logo for Sonokong for the early Plastics? I could have sworn that I read that from th!nk or Ultra in the past. 88powerpig88 (who isn't a WBO authorized dealer but is still pretty reputable) has this SOK Driger S labeled as Sonokong as well. Granted they are still before G-Revolution and therefore are of a worse quality material and have smaller parts, so usually not worth a but, but not fake either.

I would be heistant to trust the Burning Kerberous listing, it has no box images, and even though the seller is Takara Tomy, I have received a fake product after buying from this specific listing, which is supposedly sold by Takara Tomy.


Why should it be a bad move? Grin I´m actually glad, if you point out mistakes I make. Wink In fact, you have a point there, I´m quite confused as well now. I found the post you´re probably talking about (and lol, if you´re right, I just made the same mistake as th!nk did three years ago Grin ), but it´s hard to tell since the image has been removed.
Also the discussion from here on is interesting (yeah, we know about the sizes by know, but it´s also about the label):
But if you look at the old sets, they have the "Sono Kong" logo:
Nevertheless, this post does have a point, too:
This one looks pretty legit, too, only judging by the packaging, and it does say SOK, but it doesn´t say "Top Blade" in the beyblade logo, like those amazon listings:
I´ve also done some research and on some other sites they say that SOK was a fake company and not Sonokong (but of course, in case of doubt WBO an especially th!nk may be more trustful):
(in the comments)

Whereas this WBO post (with replies) here says different:

So, final result of my research: I don´t have a clue at all anymore, whether this stupid brand makes real of fake beyblades, somebody, who can say it for sure, please help! XD

And again, thanks for the hint, Wombat! Wink
(Apr. 28, 2015  12:18 AM)Wombat Wrote: [quote='~Stoney~' pid='1262011' dateline='1430144482']
I would be heistant to trust the Burning Kerberous listing, it has no box images, and even though the seller is Takara Tomy, I have received a fake product after buying from this specific listing, which is supposedly sold by Takara Tomy.

Wow, you got a fake one straight from Takara Tomy? maybe...well...i dunno. How can that even be?

Btw, are Newboy beys like more valuable or anything different about them? I know my friend has a dranzer ms. But like anything peculiar about their manufacturing? Never seen many Newboys, they sold only in middle east.
They're the same.
I own a few MFB Beys distributed by newboy.i got it from Gameboysuperman (a active mumbai tournament guy back in 2012 who used to live in the UAE) .
checkout @[gameboysuperman]'s thread for some info on the car company's tournament stuff
newboy is just a distributer (via takaratomy, yes I have seen many boxes as we owned them ) for a few countries similar to funskool who redistributes in India via Hasbro.
Driger V2 : http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade--075-Drig...+driger+v2
Metal Dranzer: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Tomy-Metal-...NRT16FSV50
Dragoon G : http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Japanese-Be...NRT16FSV50

Ok, the thing is that the Burning Kerberous' pic confused me. So in order for my confidence to built up(that i will not get a fake) can anyone look at these pics and tell me they are real, they are sold by Takara Tomy except the last one. BTW, i already ordered Driger V2, Metal Dranzer, Burning Kerberous and Draciel G so yeah I really badly need to know.
Thanks in advance!

EDIT: i did read the flightyellz guys "How to search for a fake" thread but i could not make out the language used.
(Apr. 28, 2015  12:49 PM)Dragoon. Wrote: Driger V2 : http://www.amazon.com/Beyblade--075-Drig...+driger+v2
Metal Dranzer: http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Tomy-Metal-...NRT16FSV50
Dragoon G : http://www.amazon.com/Takara-Japanese-Be...NRT16FSV50

Ok, the thing is that the Burning Kerberous' pic confused me. So in order for my confidence to built up(that i will not get a fake) can anyone look at these pics and tell me they are real, they are sold by Takara Tomy except the last one. BTW, i already ordered Burning Kerberous and Draciel G so yeah I really badly need to know.
Thanks in advance!

EDIT: i did read the flightyellz guys "How to search for a fake" thread but i could not make out the language used.

All of the above 3 links have the d rights logo, from which we can tell they are all legit
(Apr. 21, 2015  8:19 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: Can you use Customize Grip base Tip (Dragoon V2) in Customize Bearing Base?

If yes... how? (all SG/BB customization)
If not... Is there any offensive tip that could be used in Customize Bearing Base? (not counting Uriel 2's tip, too rare)

Thanks guys

Come on guys, no one knows?
(Apr. 28, 2015  1:26 PM)Izhkoort Wrote:
(Apr. 21, 2015  8:19 PM)Izhkoort Wrote: Can you use Customize Grip base Tip (Dragoon V2) in Customize Bearing Base?

If yes... how? (all SG/BB customization)
If not... Is there any offensive tip that could be used in Customize Bearing Base? (not counting Uriel 2's tip, too rare)

Thanks guys

Come on guys, no one knows?

Sorry it got buried, but no you cannot fit the rubber tip from Customize Grip Base in Customize Bearing Base. You could try Bearing Grip Base tip, since CBB is tight enough to hold it in place it'll act kind of like RB from MFB. It's tough to get it out though when you want to change parts, so be careful.

@[~Stoney~] Some people get super defensive when someone suggests that they're wrong about something if it involves a topic they're highly knowledgeable about, especially if the person questioning them knows considerably less about the topic than they do. I wasn't sure if you were like that, so I just tried to be as non-accusatory as possible. I'm glad you didn't take it the wrong way though. Smile
Thanks, I will keep it in mind Grin
Pretty sure that that SOK is just sonokong. Also as far as those sets go they were clearly made in the G Rev era or afterwards. For all we know it could have been after beyblade originally ended. And obviously the F series was several years before so it's feasible that the logo's were different designs.
I don't like it Smile
Are bound defenser, death driger, and roller defenser rare? and if so, which one is the most and least rare?
I don't think Roller Defencer is rare but the other two definitely are. Death Driger has no uses at all and I think Bound Defenser's AR is useful for compacts but with other options they go for quite a highish price for what they are.
(May. 02, 2015  1:27 AM)Ultra Wrote: rare but the other two definitely are. Death Driger has no uses at all and I think Bound Defenser's AR is useful for compacts but with other options they go for quite a highish price for what they are.

Thanks. No need to choose; I got them both. Two of my first plastic beyblades, and they are both rare! I also got draciel S and dragoon f with dearh driger and bound defenser.
As long they are not nib they don't have any big value.
Yep but oddly for death driger and the bound beys it seems rarer to see them used than NIB.
XD that's ironic, but I can see why; they're older than I am! I was born in mid october of 2001 by then, any used ones were probably shattered...
awesome its cool