[LTD]To Rethink Stamina(Revamp!)

[LTD]To Rethink Stamina[Revamp]
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This thread covers a newly developed stamina theory. I call it The Stamina Portion Theory. It describes the 3 main portions of the bey(based on my observations). And how these portions affects the overall performance of the Beyblade. The Revamp I've made included more recent metal wheels and clear wheels. And their effects on certain tracked stamina. The goal of this thread is to hopefully change some people's opinions on what CW/Metal Wheel/Face they should use and hopefully just help people overall. And maybe change the Tier List. BTW, this was a revmap of Othellog's old "To Rethink stamina" thread. This new thread includes more accurate information and updated to reflect the Limited Stamina metagame.



The Different Portions of the Beyblade:


The Central Portion:

The Central portion covers the faces and the different kinds of faces that can be used.

The Clear Wheel Portion:

The Clear Wheel portion covers the outer weight given by the clear wheel.

The Metal Wheel Portion:

The metal wheel portion is the outside of the metal wheel.

The Track Portion:

The varying weight and heights change the overall performance of the Beyblade. You want a heavier weighted Metal Wheel/Clear/Face portion to give more balance to the custom say if you were on a higher track. It varies in certain heights.



How The Portion Theory Affects the Overall Stamina of a Beybalde:
Well, each portion of the bey can’t be to far apart in weight. This gets into the stamina scale, but I’ll get into that later. Each weight correlates to the Metal Wheel and track it's using. And the face it's using correlates to the track it's using.

Now, this model shows the different types of portions. Each portion has to balanced based on how heavy the wheel is. For example, Scytheis a pretty heavy wheel. So it needs a heavy clear wheel to counteract that. These properties aren't always true, but certainly help when having 6 different clear wheel choices. Like, Pegasis 2 is generally a better choice on Scythe than the other clear wheel choices(Such as, Cancer or Cygnus).



The Stamina Scale:

The Stamina Scale makes a comparison between the weight difference between the Face, Clear, and Metal Wheel Portions of a custom. But, this consists of three scales that are compared to each other. It describes the comparable weight between the varying weights of Stamina wheels. Your face choice really depends on the track though.

Stamina Scale: Clear Wheel Portion

-Light, Ranging from 0-2.25(Grams)
-Mid-Light, Ranging from 2.25-2.6(Grams)
-Medium, Ranging from 2.65-3.0 (Grams)
-Mid-Medium, Ranging from 3.0-3.25
-Heavy, Ranging from 3.3 and above(Which is Guradian and Meteo etc. (Grams)

Stamina Scale: Metal Wheel Portion

-Light, Ranging from 0-25 (Grams)
-Mid-Light, Ranging from 25-30(Grams)
-Medium, Ranging from 30-35 (Grams)
-Mid-Medium, Ranging from 35-40(Grams)
-Heavy, Ranging from 40 - 50 (Grams)

Stamina Scale: Track Portion

-Light, Ranging from 0.00-2 grams
-Mid-Light, Ranging from 2-3
-Medium, Ranging from 3-4 grams
-Mid-Medium, Rangin from 4-5 grams
-Heavy, Ranging from 5-6 grams



Face Choices and Testing:

Heavy: Metal Core + Metal Plate (5.3g)
Light: Clear Core + Metal Plate (3.4g)
Middle: Metal Core + Clear Plate (3.3g)
Feather: Clear Core + Clear Plate (1.2g)
Metal Face: 4.7g
Regular Face: 1.2g

Clear Wheel Choices and Testing:

Cancer: Cancer is a medium weighted Clear Wheel at 3.0 grams.
Aquario: Aquario is a mid-medium weighted Clear Wheel at 3.2 grams.
Bull: Bull is a Heavy weighted Clear Wheel at 3.3 grams.
Cygnus: Cygnus is a Mid-medium weighted Clear Wheel at 3.2 grams.
Pegasis 2: Pegasis 2 is a Mid-Medium weighted Clear Wheel at 3.1 grams.
Hades: Hades is a mid-medium weighted Clear Wheel at 3.2 grams.
Kerbecs: Kerbecs is a heavy weighted Clear Wheel at 3.3 grams
Uranus: Uranus is a Light weighted Clear Wheel at 2.4 grams.
Ketos: Ketos is a Mid-Light weighted Clear Wheel at 2.5 grams.

Metal Wheel Choices and Testing:

Burn: Burn is a medium weighted wheel a 31.51 grams.
Scythe: Scythe is a Medium weighted wheel at 34.41 grams.
Libra: Libra is a Heavy weighted wheel at 40.5 grams.
Earth: Earth is a Medium weighted wheel at 30.8 grams.
Virgo: Virgo is a Mid-Middle weighted wheel at 37 grams.
Meteo: Meteo is a Medium weighted wheel at 34.34 grams.
Counter: Counter is a Mid-Light weighted wheel at 29.2 grams.
Jade: Jade is Mid-Middle weighted wheel at 39.15 grams.
Duo: Duo is a Mid-Light weighted wheel at 29.11 grams.
Track Heights and Testing:

Low(85): Low Heights are Light weighted tracks.
Mid-Low(CH120): Mid-Low heights are Mid-Light weighted tracks.
Mid(145-All types): Mid heights are Medium weighted tracks.
Mid-High(TH170): Mid-High heights are mid-medium weighted tracks.
High(230-All types): High heights are Heavy weighted tracks.



To prove this part of the theory here is some testing from othellog:
MF-L Burn Cancer 145WD and MF-L Burn Bull 145WD Spin Time
Cancer: 3:27min Average
Bull: 2:20min Average
According to what most people think, Bull has better weight distribution so it should have a better spin time than cancer, but that is not the case. If you look at it this way, there is too much weight in the Clear Portion compared to the Metal Wheel Portion. This is the relation in the Stamina scale.

Jade Kerbecs/Bull/Cancer/Uranus W145WD Solo-Spins
Kerbecs: 2:43.2
Bull: 2:17.4
Cancer: 2:40.0
Uranus: 2:25.5

Metal Face w/ Kerbecs: 1:58.0
MF-H w/ Kerbecs: 2:41.5
MF-L w/ Kerbecs: 2:48.9(8.9 seconds better than Cancer...)
MF-M w/Kerbecs: 2:33.6

-More Tests coming soon!
Interesting concept.

I don't understand why things like Uranus were tested though- it's known not to be that great for Stamina, to my understanding. Was it just to see how a "light" Clear Wheel acts?
(Sep. 19, 2014  1:13 AM)Leone19 Wrote: Interesting concept.

I don't understand why things like Uranus were tested though- it's known not to be that great for Stamina, to my understanding. Was it just to see how a "light" Clear Wheel acts?

Yeah, it was a "control" if you will. I'd like to do more testing soon and just see if(If being my idea, including Uranus) it actaully really does work, or if it's just Kerbecs.
Let me just say the layout is nicely done Echizen. The information looks pretty accurate. How long did this take you?

This seems like an interesting thread. Anything you might need help with?
Took me about 2 weeks.

Right now it would be good to have solo-spin testing with corresponding metal wheels and clear wheel weights.
great idea! i'm sure it will be usefull to help people to built their own strenght stamina beys hah!
(Oct. 18, 2014  2:06 AM)loyd87 Wrote: great idea! i'm sure it will be usefull to help people to built their own strenght stamina beys hah!

I appreciate the compliment. I'd really like to see more testing from other people, and hopefully myself, hah.