[HMS] :: Q&A Thread

(Jun. 08, 2014  3:28 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:26 PM)ashton pinto Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: That's how much the Xbox One is about to be and people are buying single Beys for that price! I can't believe that. This is why I can never enter a Plastics/HMS tourney.
yeah .. and we cant stop people , its their money
BTW anything vintage goes high , be it beyblade or a guitar or a cricket bat etc etc
I just found this on eBay, and I want it bad, but it's way too expensive.
Same here, i too want it TBH .. but i know where my place is, so i just 'let it go' . Me simply whining wouldn't make a difference.
If i had a job or some source of income i would definitely buy it ..
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:38 PM)ashton pinto Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:28 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:26 PM)ashton pinto Wrote: yeah .. and we cant stop people , its their money
BTW anything vintage goes high , be it beyblade or a guitar or a cricket bat etc etc
I just found this on eBay, and I want it bad, but it's way too expensive.
Same here, i too want it TBH .. but i know where my place is, so i just 'let it go' . Me simply whining wouldn't make a difference.
If i had a job or some source of income i would definitely buy it ..
There's a Lime Green one on eBay for like 220$ usd. Reprinted stickers tho.
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:41 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:38 PM)ashton pinto Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:28 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: I just found this on eBay, and I want it bad, but it's way too expensive.
Same here, i too want it TBH .. but i know where my place is, so i just 'let it go' . Me simply whining wouldn't make a difference.
If i had a job or some source of income i would definitely buy it ..
There's a Lime Green one on eBay for like 220$ usd. Reprinted stickers tho.
I don't really like the colors on it though. I like it nice and original. Even the regular Dragoon MS is really expensive.
(Jun. 08, 2014  2:13 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: Your argument is invalid because sporkseller ships faster and cheaper, for only two dollars more.

Yes, and there isn't a demand for an $80 Sea Dragon. Or a $120 Dragoon MS.

Do you get how long $120 Dragoon MS's have been on eBay? I haven't seen any sell, because yet aren't worth that much.

It's funny; there's a $180 set from SonoKong on eBay that has Dragoon MS, Dranzer MS, and Draciel MS.
That sounds more promising for the price point.

(Jun. 08, 2014  4:42 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:41 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  3:38 PM)ashton pinto Wrote: Same here, i too want it TBH .. but i know where my place is, so i just 'let it go' . Me simply whining wouldn't make a difference.
If i had a job or some source of income i would definitely buy it ..
There's a Lime Green one on eBay for like 220$ usd. Reprinted stickers tho.
I don't really like the colors on it though. I like it nice and original. Even the regular Dragoon MS is really expensive.

Proto Grey Ver. looks the best to me.
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:46 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  2:13 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: Your argument is invalid because sporkseller ships faster and cheaper, for only two dollars more.

Yes, and there isn't a demand for an $80 Sea Dragon. Or a $120 Dragoon MS.

Do you get how long $120 Dragoon MS's have been on eBay? I haven't seen any sell, because yet aren't worth that much.

It's funny; there's a $180 set from SonoKong on eBay that has Dragoon MS, Dranzer MS, and Draciel MS.
That sounds more promising for the price point.
See look at this. My dad would kill me if I bought a Beyblade above $80, now if we go to over $100 then I'd have to leave home.
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:46 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  2:13 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: Your argument is invalid because sporkseller ships faster and cheaper, for only two dollars more.

Yes, and there isn't a demand for an $80 Sea Dragon. Or a $120 Dragoon MS.

Do you get how long $120 Dragoon MS's have been on eBay? I haven't seen any sell, because yet aren't worth that much.

It's funny; there's a $180 set from SonoKong on eBay that has Dragoon MS, Dranzer MS, and Draciel MS.
That sounds more promising for the price point.

(Jun. 08, 2014  4:42 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:41 PM)Neo~ Wrote: There's a Lime Green one on eBay for like 220$ usd. Reprinted stickers tho.
I don't really like the colors on it though. I like it nice and original. Even the regular Dragoon MS is really expensive.

Proto Grey Ver. looks the best to me.

who cares products from sonokong? u can even buy same draco spins then.
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:48 PM)taxus Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:46 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  2:13 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: Your argument is invalid because sporkseller ships faster and cheaper, for only two dollars more.

Yes, and there isn't a demand for an $80 Sea Dragon. Or a $120 Dragoon MS.

Do you get how long $120 Dragoon MS's have been on eBay? I haven't seen any sell, because yet aren't worth that much.

It's funny; there's a $180 set from SonoKong on eBay that has Dragoon MS, Dranzer MS, and Draciel MS.
That sounds more promising for the price point.

(Jun. 08, 2014  4:42 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: I don't really like the colors on it though. I like it nice and original. Even the regular Dragoon MS is really expensive.

Proto Grey Ver. looks the best to me.

who cares products from sonokong? u can even buy same draco spins then.
Takara Tomy sort of works with Sono Kong so it's not a big difference.
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:49 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:48 PM)taxus Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:46 PM)Neo~ Wrote: It's funny; there's a $180 set from SonoKong on eBay that has Dragoon MS, Dranzer MS, and Draciel MS.
That sounds more promising for the price point.


Proto Grey Ver. looks the best to me.

who cares products from sonokong? u can even buy same draco spins then.
Takara Tomy sort of works with Sono Kong so it's not a big difference.


i know, parts will not fit to regular takara parts, right?
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:52 PM)taxus Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:49 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:48 PM)taxus Wrote: who cares products from sonokong? u can even buy same draco spins then.
Takara Tomy sort of works with Sono Kong so it's not a big difference.


i know, parts will not fit to regular takara parts, right?
They should be able to fit. Hasbro parts and Sono Kong parts should be able to fit Takara Tomy, unless I am mistaken ?
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:57 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:52 PM)taxus Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:49 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: Takara Tomy sort of works with Sono Kong so it's not a big difference.


i know, parts will not fit to regular takara parts, right?
They should be able to fit. Hasbro parts and Sono Kong parts should be able to fit Takara Tomy, unless I am mistake ?


i always heard that sonokong will dont fit.
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:52 PM)taxus Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:49 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:48 PM)taxus Wrote: who cares products from sonokong? u can even buy same draco spins then.
Takara Tomy sort of works with Sono Kong so it's not a big difference.


i know, parts will not fit to regular takara parts, right?

The Original Plastic generation beys by SK won't fit Takara or Hasbro, but G-Rev and HMS are the SAME EXACT MOLDS AS THE TAKARA HMS BEYS. IE; they work with Takara and Hasbro parts.
You're overcharging, sorry.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:06 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:52 PM)taxus Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:49 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: Takara Tomy sort of works with Sono Kong so it's not a big difference.


i know, parts will not fit to regular takara parts, right?

The Original Plastic generation beys by SK won't fit Takara or Hasbro, but G-Rev and HMS are the SAME EXACT MOLDS AS THE TAKARA HMS BEYS. IE; they work with Takara and Hasbro parts.
You're overcharging, sorry.
I wasn't that much into Beyblade around then. Just bladed for fun. So don't trust me 100% lol.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:10 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:06 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  4:52 PM)taxus Wrote: i know, parts will not fit to regular takara parts, right?

The Original Plastic generation beys by SK won't fit Takara or Hasbro, but G-Rev and HMS are the SAME EXACT MOLDS AS THE TAKARA HMS BEYS. IE; they work with Takara and Hasbro parts.
You're overcharging, sorry.
I wasn't that much into Beyblade around then. Just bladed for fun. So don't trust me 100% lol.

You were right though 0.o
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:13 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:10 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:06 PM)Neo~ Wrote: The Original Plastic generation beys by SK won't fit Takara or Hasbro, but G-Rev and HMS are the SAME EXACT MOLDS AS THE TAKARA HMS BEYS. IE; they work with Takara and Hasbro parts.
You're overcharging, sorry.
I wasn't that much into Beyblade around then. Just bladed for fun. So don't trust me 100% lol.

You were right though 0.o
I said that they do fit, but Taxus said they don't so he is right.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:15 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:13 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:10 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: I wasn't that much into Beyblade around then. Just bladed for fun. So don't trust me 100% lol.

You were right though 0.o
I said that they do fit, but Taxus said they don't so he is right.

I assure you, the SonoKong HMS are the same exact molds. They combine.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:18 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:15 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:13 PM)Neo~ Wrote: You were right though 0.o
I said that they do fit, but Taxus said they don't so he is right.

I assure you, the SonoKong HMS are the same exact molds. They combine.
Ok then I guess I was right, you can trust me, sometimes...
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:19 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:18 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:15 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: I said that they do fit, but Taxus said they don't so he is right.

I assure you, the SonoKong HMS are the same exact molds. They combine.
Ok then I guess I was right, you can trust me, sometimes...

taxus was confused because he mixed up the original Beyblade and V-Force beys. Those two series from SonoKong in toy form are smaller molds and do not fit any other brand. G-Revolution and HMS fixed this problem, and are the same toy with minor differences, like stickers.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:22 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:19 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:18 PM)Neo~ Wrote: I assure you, the SonoKong HMS are the same exact molds. They combine.
Ok then I guess I was right, you can trust me, sometimes...

taxus was confused because he mixed up the original Beyblade and V-Force beys. Those two series from SonoKong in toy form are smaller molds and do not fit any other brand. G-Revolution and HMS fixed this problem, and are the same toy with minor differences, like stickers.
Ok, I got it. Plastics are the ones that don't work, and HMS does.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:22 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:19 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: Ok then I guess I was right, you can trust me, sometimes...

taxus was confused because he mixed up the original Beyblade and V-Force beys. Those two series from SonoKong in toy form are smaller molds and do not fit any other brand. G-Revolution and HMS fixed this problem, and are the same toy with minor differences, like stickers.
Ok, I got it. Plastics are the ones that don't work, and HMS does.

Yeah, that's why most people have a Korean Dranzer MS. Much more affordable on eBay and such.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:24 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:22 PM)Neo~ Wrote: taxus was confused because he mixed up the original Beyblade and V-Force beys. Those two series from SonoKong in toy form are smaller molds and do not fit any other brand. G-Revolution and HMS fixed this problem, and are the same toy with minor differences, like stickers.
Ok, I got it. Plastics are the ones that don't work, and HMS does.

Yeah, that's why most people have a Korean Dranzer MS. Much more affordable on eBay and such.
How much is "affordable"?
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:27 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:24 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:23 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: Ok, I got it. Plastics are the ones that don't work, and HMS does.

Yeah, that's why most people have a Korean Dranzer MS. Much more affordable on eBay and such.
How much is "affordable"?

$55 on eBay NIB. There's also a $120 one that has a Neo Grip, but there's a $23 set with a Grip, Draciel MS and Gaia Dragoon MS, so that's a rip off.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:30 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:27 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:24 PM)Neo~ Wrote: Yeah, that's why most people have a Korean Dranzer MS. Much more affordable on eBay and such.
How much is "affordable"?

$55 on eBay NIB. There's also a $120 one that has a Neo Grip, but there's a $23 set with a Grip, Draciel MS and Gaia Dragoon MS, so that's a rip off.
I might get that $23 one. I think I've seen it on eBay when I was browsing a couple months ago.
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:32 PM)RagerBlade Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:30 PM)Neo~ Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  7:27 PM)RagerBlade Wrote: How much is "affordable"?

$55 on eBay NIB. There's also a $120 one that has a Neo Grip, but there's a $23 set with a Grip, Draciel MS and Gaia Dragoon MS, so that's a rip off.
I might get that $23 one. I think I've seen it on eBay when I was browsing a couple months ago.

More then 10 are left, I'm still waiting for mine 2 weeks later. Shipping seems to be slow.
(Jun. 08, 2014  1:58 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: The Price Reference List has the fair price, not the outrageous price.

For example taxus, a NIB Sea Dragon isn't worth $80.

It's a good thing that he asked about neither the "fair price", nor the "outrageous" price, but the realistic price as a salesman, which presumably means a price where people are likely to buy while he still makes maximum profit.
(Jun. 08, 2014  8:52 PM)Bastion Wrote:
(Jun. 08, 2014  1:58 PM)*Ginga* Wrote: The Price Reference List has the fair price, not the outrageous price.

For example taxus, a NIB Sea Dragon isn't worth $80.

It's a good thing that he asked about neither the "fair price", nor the "outrageous" price, but the realistic price as a salesman, which presumably means a price where people are likely to buy while he still makes maximum profit.

He's a genuinely nice guy, so I was glad to buy from him.