It is a hypothesis, but Hasbro would have to do some serious remodeling, whereas I think creating their own new molds would be easier.

It is a hypothesis, but Hasbro would have to do some serious remodeling, whereas I think creating their own new molds would be easier.

Well, I did phrase it that way, but I more meant that they would be HWS versions of those beys, rather than actually physically remodeled versions. So, basically, they'll look reminiscent of them.

However, it just a hypothesis, so I'll just have to wait and see.

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Well, I did phrase it that way, but I more meant that they would be HWS versions of those beys, rather than actually physically remodeled versions. So, basically, they'll look reminiscent of them.

However, it just a hypothesis, so I'll just have to wait and see.

Hm, I am not certain we are talking about the same thing ... Cyber Pegasis is a Hybrid Wheel version of Pegasis, hm ? However, their molds are different in more than just the centre to become a Metal Wheel. Therefore, Hasbro would have to remodel all the molds for the Metal System Beyblades anyway, and in my opinion that might be more difficult to do than to just create entirely new molds not based on anything.

Anyway, whatever they are, Hasbro could have made a better effort at choosing names : "Midnight", "Torch", "Night" ... That seems bad, lazy, almost unrelated.

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Anyway, whatever they are, Hasbro could have made a better effort at choosing names : "Midnight", "Torch", "Night" ... That seems bad, lazy, almost unrelated.

Ah, well, I find Cyber to be at least based on the pre-HWS Pegasis, and that's what I expect these to be like in relation to their pre-HWS forms.

However, I do agree that it would be easier to make wheels not based on anything.

And yeah, the names are rather uninspired. Perhaps they'll make more sense when we actually see the beys? If they do end up being completely random, though, I won't be surprised. XD

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not sure if this goes here but...
hasbro didnt change aquila to eagle or phoenix to fireblaze

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that belongs in random beyblade thoughts...

and what? yes they did.

According to Entertainment Earth, these Midnight Bull and Night Virgo etc. Beys are coming out in the next wave. Here's the list:

Case includes 12 individually packaged tops, including:
1x Dark Wolf DF- red
1x Storm Aquario - blue
1x Storm Capricorn - purple
1x Rock Orso
1x Burn Fireblaze 135MS
1x Poison Serpent SW145SD
2x Cyber Pegasus 105F
2x Midnight Bull 125 SF
1x Torch Aries 125D
1x Night Virgo DF145BS
(subject to change)

and the link:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodin...9495H#desc

So at the absolute very least we have another shop other than Toywiz confirming their existence.

EDIT:
Here's what they have listed for wave 8 revision 1:
Case includes 12 individually packaged tops, including:
1x Flame Sagittario - yellow
1x Rock Aries - purple
1x Flame Libra - green
1x Lightning L-Drago - blue
1x Evil Gemios
1x Rock Scorpio
1x Cyber Pegasus 105F
1x Midnight Bull 125 SF
1x Torch Aries 125D
1x Night Virgo DF145BS
2x Fury Capricorn 100HF
(subject to change)

IT could be possible that hasbro is releasing the pre hws. How cool would that be.

@LeonTemp I saw ur comment that said cyber peg105F but you gotta think that it might be the pre hws peg, its wheel is similar to cyber. I think I made my point.

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not sure if this goes here but...
hasbro didnt change aquila to eagle or phoenix to fireblaze

Was this sarcasm ?

that belongs in random beyblade thoughts...

and what? yes they did.

no the english dub metal fusion did

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no the english dub metal fusion did

The anime is based on the toys, not the contrary. At most you could say both Hasbro and Nelvana made those name changes, but never only Nelvana. That is wrong.

most likely not. true it uses 105 and F like Pre-HWS Pegasis and Cyber is an imitation Pegasis wheel, but by calling it Cyber Pegasis, it is safe to assume that it will be a HWS blade and not a pre-HWS

basicly, if what we all have assumed thus far is correct, these will be HWS recolors with Pre-HWS parts. but hey, you never know

no the english dub metal fusion did

The anime is based on the toys, not the contrary. At most you could say both Hasbro and Nelvana made those name changes, but never only Nelvana. That is wrong.

ok sorry

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Midnight Bull could also be Benkei's first Beyblade seen in the first few episodes. Even if it might have been Infinity Cetus. Though Hasbro will never release Infinity, unless it is a cheap renaming of that wheel. But what do I know?

Midnight Bull could also be Benkei's first Beyblade seen in the first few episodes. Even if it might have been Infinity Cetus. Though Hasbro will never release Infinity, unless it is a cheap renaming of that wheel. But what do I know?

I highly doubt this.

Then I will go back to opinion 1, hoping this is not a disappointment.

I think Benkei used Flame Bull before?
That flashback of him and Kyouya, and how he was always obliterated..?

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I think Benkei used Flame Bull before?
That flashback of him and Kyouya, and how he was always obliterated..?

It was a Light Wheel Beyblade, Heat Cetus.

I see. :[
Very well then.

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Well I feel I should point this out. These are most likely NOT recolors. Hasbro realised the Super Vortex Set which came with a recolored blue storm wheel and a recolored red lightning wheel and they kept the names the same- Storm and Lighting. So these are most likely brand new beys.

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Well I feel I should point this out. These are most likely NOT recolors. Hasbro realised the Super Vortex Set which came with a recolored blue storm wheel and a recolored red lightning wheel and they kept the names the same- Storm and Lighting. Also hasbro did not change the names of recolored clear wheels( which were realised in two packs). So these are most likely brand new beys.

Why would they rename the Clear Wheels ...

Anyway, this is all speculations right now. Actually, I am going to ask that no more discussion of the upcoming Hasbro releases Midnight Bull, Torch Aries and Night Virgo gets posted anywhere on the message board until we have any more solid information. Any future post on this without any confirmation or official news will be deleted and the user might get warned.



In other news, a new launcher called "BeyBlaster" will be released in springA 2011, where apparently you "load your top and pump it up for the best battle yet !" It is supposed to be "the latest, most accurate launcher."

Also, a carry case will come out :
"A sleek carry case that stores up to 12 tops as well as a launcher and spare parts. Removable dividers to customize storage ideas. Also, includes one Metal Fusion battle top."

http://www.hasbro-emea.info/games_pdf/beyblade-2011.pdf

Well I feel I should point this out. These are most likely NOT recolors. Hasbro realised the Super Vortex Set which came with a recolored blue storm wheel and a recolored red lightning wheel and they kept the names the same- Storm and Lighting. Also hasbro did not change the names of recolored clear wheels( which were realised in two packs). So these are most likely brand new beys.

Why would they rename the Clear Wheels ...

Anyway, this is all speculations right now. Actually, I am going to ask that no more discussion of the upcoming Hasbro releases Midnight Bull, Torch Aries and Night Virgo gets posted anywhere on the message board until we have any more solid information. Any future post on this without any confirmation or official news will be deleted and the user might get warned.



In other news, a new launcher called "BeyBlaster" will be released in springA 2011, where apparently you "load your top and pump it up for the best battle yet !" It is supposed to be "the latest, most accurate launcher."

Also, a carry case will come out :
"A sleek carry case that stores up to 12 tops as well as a launcher and spare parts. Removable dividers to customize storage ideas. Also, includes one Metal Fusion battle top."

http://www.hasbro-emea.info/games_pdf/beyblade-2011.pdf

There's also this:

Metal Fusion Battle Gear Asst

"Soft case is an awesome way to bring your Beyblades with you.
Holds 2 tops, 1 launcher, a ripcord and extra parts."

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There's also this:

Metal Fusion Battle Gear Asst

"Soft case is an awesome way to bring your Beyblades with you.
Holds 2 tops, 1 launcher, a ripcord and extra parts."

Hm, it is weird because they just show the Beylauncher and the Launcher Grip ...

"Soft" is an odd term, plus if we consider the fact that a real carry case will be made, I wonder if they would release the BeyCarrier Waist Type from Japan ... What else is 'soft' (perhaps compared to 'hard'), holds so few Beyblades, only one launcher with a winder and just some extra parts ?

Kai, do you mind telling me how you find all this out?
Seriously, do you have inside informants or something?

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Kai, do you mind telling me how you find all this out?
Seriously, do you have inside informants or something?

Google is one of the best inventions of the century.

However, I suppose finding things is a very important part of my future job, which becomes off-topic.