Berserker Byakko's Spin Track

The wiki says that Berserker Byakko uses a 125 Spin Track:
This is the image we have as reference:
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Now there is two renders i've made with the 3D Models from Metal Fight Beyblade 4D x Zero-G: Ultimate Tournament:
Berserker Byakko 125S:
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Berserker Byakko 145S:
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You should use actual parts to give you an easier time with visual references. The angles of your grayscale renders aren't even the correct ones as seen in the show; even then, your renders are showing 125 (top image) is the correct height, not 145. Your brain is playing a trick on you with the angles.

145S can be seen below, at the same angle; note the number of ridges on the sides are 4, not 3.

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I am genuinely baffled why you went on every Beyblade website/platform to post this.
Y'know. I genuenly condired it weird. Most of the combos Zero-G Beyblades use are Canon Combos (Track and bottom that always seem to go with one another. 145D, H145SD, D125B, 105RF, etc...) But Byakko here was one that not. Not a single releas has the combo 125S. Yes, I'm awres there's Leone 125S and Storm Aries, but not counting RB fillers or Hasbro Exclusives.

I have a theory that the actual combo was supposed to be 145S, but someone at the animations studios messed up
(Oct. 19, 2024  7:52 PM)ayggdrasilgy Wrote: Y'know. I genuenly condired it weird. Most of the combos Zero-G Beyblades use are Canon Combos (Track and bottom that always seem to go with one another. 145D, H145SD, D125B, 105RF, etc...) But Byakko here was one that not. Not a single releas has the combo 125S. Yes, I'm awres there's Leone 125S and Storm Aries, but not counting RB fillers or Hasbro Exclusives.

I have a theory that the actual combo was supposed to be 145S, but someone at the animations studios messed up

Not everything needs to be following a pattern. There's nothing in the settei (the animation studio's reference sheets) to suggest that 2 parts MUST go together.



You
1. ASSUME common Track and Bottom combos have some kind of significance
2. ASSUME there's a rule that says all canon combos must use those common combos
3. ASSUME that the animation studio messed up

When you should just ASSUME nothing, and see that the animation studio just did 125S. Occam's razor, don't overthink reality.
(Oct. 19, 2024  9:20 PM)KIO Wrote:
(Oct. 19, 2024  7:52 PM)ayggdrasilgy Wrote: Y'know. I genuenly condired it weird. Most of the combos Zero-G Beyblades use are Canon Combos (Track and bottom that always seem to go with one another. 145D, H145SD, D125B, 105RF, etc...) But Byakko here was one that not. Not a single releas has the combo 125S. Yes, I'm awres there's Leone 125S and Storm Aries,  but not counting RB fillers or Hasbro Exclusives.

I have a theory that the actual combo was supposed to be 145S, but someone at the animations studios messed up

Not everything needs to be following a pattern. There's nothing in the settei (the animation studio's reference sheets) to suggest that 2 parts MUST go together.



You
1. ASSUME common Track and Bottom combos have some kind of significance
2. ASSUME there's a rule that says all canon combos must use those common combos
3. ASSUME that the animation studio messed up

When you should just ASSUME nothing, and see that the animation studio just did 125S. Occam's razor, don't overthink reality.

Sorry, just getting excited for seeing pattern. Yeah... I'm one of those guys....

I mean, how many non-RB combos have not used two parts that allways go together? Sure I'm assuming A LOT of things, but you can't tell me you don't see it either? Even on random booster they have the same mold, ever wondered why some RB beys have different coloured parts yet some other have the corresponding colour?
At this point i don't even care anymore, because i came to the conclusion that it's blatant to debate about a SINGLE PART of a beyblade that didn't even have been released to be honest, just the fact that the Beyblade appeared on the anime before an actual product could even came means that if it was even meant to be released, it would probably still be in development process at that time. So the 125 track could probably be a placeholder. There is also the possibility that the Beyblade wasn't even meant to be released to begin with, so doesn't matter what Track and Tip it would use. Note that Archer Wyvern 145WB and Thief Zirago WA130HF appeared in the anime and all parts they use were released, but the Beyblades itself didn't got a release (at least not by TT and not with that exact combo). Also since ayggdrasil talked about Random Booster and Staple Combos, remeber that Random Booster Vol.4 Archer Garudas was meant to be a thing, and that a Berserker Byakko 125S could perfectly be part of that product, Metal Fight Beyblade 4D itself included alot of Random Booster beyblades.

So my final conclusion is that, Berserker Byakko uses a 125 spin track on the anime, but it is possible that if it came on an actual product, if it were part of Starter or Booster, then it would use the 145S or maybe even the 125SF combo, but if it were part of Random Booster then the 125S is completely plausible.

Think i need to sorry too, now i noticed that i was too dramatic posting it everywhere, because i have thought that i made some discovery and nobody had noticed that.
I find this funny that this is such a furious debate