Become An Organizer Process - Outdated?

(Dec. 12, 2024  9:24 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: The age requirements are stupid and not fair to the ones who study so so hard and don't get the role. I am sorry if this sounds rude I am Absoloutley ticked off and cannot think straight but in a way every part of me feels that it is true. Except for anxiety.

We need the age requirement. The amount of legal responsibility that an organizer holds if you aren't playing in the middle of a public park is high enough I want a legal adult running the event
(Dec. 13, 2024  3:11 AM)gregandcin Wrote:
(Dec. 12, 2024  9:24 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: The age requirements are stupid and not fair to the ones who study so so hard and don't get the role. I am sorry if this sounds rude I am Absoloutley ticked off and cannot think straight but in a way every part of me feels that it is true. Except for anxiety.

We need the age requirement. The amount of legal responsibility that an organizer holds if you aren't playing in the middle of a public park is high enough I want a legal adult running the event

Belive it or not there are some of us who have capabilities like sheldon cooper! If we are like that then it's not fair to those who can study and get every question right and then not get the role because of the age requirement. The organizer test IS outdated because it fails to see that 63.3% children are capable of this and if we can't fail to see this I might as well throw in the towel. Plus the legal adult is usually 14-16-18 so I know a good deal of organizers who are not a legal adult where they live,therefore your arguement should not be registered as though many organizers here are not legal adults.

Ok maybe not many but still......
(Dec. 13, 2024  2:06 PM)DRTACOS Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  3:11 AM)gregandcin Wrote: We need the age requirement. The amount of legal responsibility that an organizer holds if you aren't playing in the middle of a public park is high enough I want a legal adult running the event

Belive it or not there are some of us who have capabilities like sheldon cooper! If we are like that then it's not fair to those who can study and get every question right and then not get the role because of the age requirement. The organizer test IS outdated because it fails to see that 63.3% children are capable of this and if we can't fail to see this I might as well throw in the towel. Plus the legal adult is usually 14-16-18 so I know a good deal of organizers who are not a legal adult where they live,therefore your arguement should not be registered as though many organizers here are not legal adults.
I do agree on some of this. Such as the "many organizers here are not legal adults." Though someone who is 14, or 16 is most definitely not a adult in the actual legal system for most if not all places in the US, though maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say. The Sheldon Cooper argument doesn't seem to relevant here in my opinion, since he is a fictional character written by adults for a tv show. I'd also be curious to where you got that percent from, sounds interesting!
(Dec. 13, 2024  2:23 PM)Frisk291 Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  2:06 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Belive it or not there are some of us who have capabilities like sheldon cooper! If we are like that then it's not fair to those who can study and get every question right and then not get the role because of the age requirement. The organizer test IS outdated because it fails to see that 63.3% children are capable of this and if we can't fail to see this I might as well throw in the towel. Plus the legal adult is usually 14-16-18 so I know a good deal of organizers who are not a legal adult where they live,therefore your arguement should not be registered as though many organizers here are not legal adults.
I do agree on some of this. Such as the "many organizers here are not legal adults." Though someone who is 14, or 16 is most definitely not a adult in the actual legal system for most if not all places in the US. The sheldon cooper argument doesn't seem to relevant since he is a fictional character written by adults for a show. I'd also be curious to where you got that percent from, sounds interesting!

The Sheldon Cooper arguement was for the statement that some 12-13 yr olds could be mature enough and if they are I say let em cook! If they aren't follow through with procedure. The 63.3% of children who I quoted were for the ones who play sports and with this we should be able to help expand because they has only been 1 tournament in NE in the 10 yrs for as much as I know so if they were as mature as Sheldon Cooper they could become something better than this website might have ever been!
(Dec. 13, 2024  2:27 PM)DRTACOS Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  2:23 PM)Frisk291 Wrote: I do agree on some of this. Such as the "many organizers here are not legal adults." Though someone who is 14, or 16 is most definitely not a adult in the actual legal system for most if not all places in the US. The sheldon cooper argument doesn't seem to relevant since he is a fictional character written by adults for a show. I'd also be curious to where you got that percent from, sounds interesting!

The Sheldon Cooper arguement was for the statement that some 12-13 yr olds could be mature enough and if they are I say let em cook! If they aren't follow through with procedure. The 63.3% of children who I quoted were for the ones who play sports and with this we should be able to help expand because they has only been 1 tournament in NE in the 10 yrs for as much as I know so if they were as mature as Sheldon Cooper they could become something better than this website might have ever been!

Firstly, there are multitude of reasons on why the age limit exists. One of the biggest parts is the safety of the child hoster, some events could be unpredictable and if they don't handle the event well then it could end badly and with someone getting harmed. Not to mention the fact that a minor, whose brain isn't fully developed, has to find a spot to host. Sure you can argue that most 12-13 year olds could be mature, which personally is not true about this generation, it is the fact that it is overall a risk for the minor and they could be endangered. I also have to add if you think you're mature then I would advise you thoroughly read through the threads and comments you have posted on this site. Not to mention the time you also said a school name around your area. Now I am not trying to put you down, I am just proving the point that age IS in fact important for Organizers

(Dec. 13, 2024  3:21 PM)VermillionMoon Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  2:27 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: The Sheldon Cooper arguement was for the statement that some 12-13 yr olds could be mature enough and if they are I say let em cook! If they aren't follow through with procedure. The 63.3% of children who I quoted were for the ones who play sports and with this we should be able to help expand because they has only been 1 tournament in NE in the 10 yrs for as much as I know so if they were as mature as Sheldon Cooper they could become something better than this website might have ever been!

Firstly, there are multitude of reasons on why the age limit exists. One of the biggest parts is the safety of the child hoster, some events could be unpredictable and if they don't handle the event well then it could end badly and with someone getting harmed. Not to mention the fact that a minor, whose brain isn't fully developed, has to find a spot to host. Sure you can argue that most 12-13 year olds could be mature, which personally is not true about this generation, it is the fact that it is overall a risk for the minor and they could be endangered. I also have to add if you think you're mature then I would advise you thoroughly read through the threads and comments you have posted on this site. Not to mention the time you also said a school name around your area. Now I am not trying to put you down, I am just proving the point that age IS in fact important for Organizers

To add on Sheldon Cooper is the worst example you can use, in the show Sheldon is ACADEMICALLY smart, not emotionally smart. He is shown to throw fits and tantrums whenever he gets his ways. An organizer needs to be mature and not throw fits whenever their players don't listen to them. Overall all your arguments are mainly biased, and I say that respectfully and nicely since Sheldon is the furthest thing from mature in the ENTIRETY of the show. Before you make an argument at least use correct evidence
There is so much I want to say about the Become an Organizer process, that I don’t even know where I want to begin. I’m also fairly certain that I will forget to put in some things that I have been actively thinking about, regarding this topic, just. Excuse it’s so much to sort through in my head.

I guess to start with I should say that I fully agree with having an organizer quiz as the starting point to become an organizer. However, I feel the quiz questions should focus more on how to organize a tournament rather than having any questions regarding the rules the WBO has put in place for Beyblade. This thought process comes from a few different things. The main thing being that playing beyblade and organizing a tournament are 2 completely different things. When you become an organizer you don’t get to go to a tournament and just play beyblade like everyone else. There is a long list of responsibilities that you have as an organizer and you must do them to make sure the tournament runs smoothly. First off you have to make your tournament thread and get it approved. In order to do that you have to make sure you have a location to host, a date, you need to know the amount of people your venue can hold, it’s just a lot of things you have to figure out even before you can get your tournament approved and posted onto the forums. Then once that’s done, you will eventually need to make a challonge page for your tournament, you have to make sure all of the settings are correct, as well as any specific information needed for the event. You will need to do a role call to see who all that had resigned up is there, then enter their usernames into the challonge. If you have new players you need to explain the rules of the format you are playing. (Or at least have someone there that can explain them best.) You need to make sure you have stadiums set up and judges to help keep matches going. You have to call out matches and try to have little to no stadium downtime. Then you still have to figure out the finals bracket and have that played out. If you’re playing a legacy format right now after the tournament is over you have to fill out a spreadsheet. Overall it’s a lot of WORK to be an organizer. I Organize weekly and at every tournament I do not get to free play off to the side with the other bladers. It’s saddening. But I know my job as an organizer is to organize the event and keep it running smoothly. Not just to play beyblade. I do think a lot of people that take the organizer quiz forget that this is what you are signing up for. You’re not signing up for a purple colored name and the ability to talk in the Organizer’s Circle chat on the forums/discord. It’s much much more than that. So I feel like the quiz is necessary and it should actually be quite hard so we can find the truly dedicated individuals that want to do this. Organizers sacrifice a lot just so others get to come to these tournaments and play beyblade.

Real quickly, just to come back to what I said about the quiz questions needing to be more about organizing instead of rulings for the actual game of beyblade. I do think a separate judge test would be nice to have to go along side the organizer quiz. But that is a topic for a later discussion.

Another key thing about the current test I want to highlight is that you have to find the answers through multiple organizer resources. A quiz that is determining whether or not you are qualified to organize an event should only need to be found in the organizers guide, and maybe the match type guide. Though it’s possible those might be better suited merged together?

The next topic of what I think is needed to qualify to become an organizer. Age. I do believe there should be a minimum age to hosting tournaments through the WBO. What age that is? I don’t know yet. But, why age? Well maturity is the main reason. You have to think about it. As an organizer, when hosting a tournament, you are in charge of the players that come to your event. You have to be firm with some things and quite frankly it can get really overwhelming for anyone that hasn’t developed the organizational skills required to do this type of thing yet. Not to mention you need to be able to handle any kind of situation that arises. Such as theft, or assault. These things are extremes, however they can and do happen from time to time. This is why I think age is important. We also don’t want someone young to try and host a tournament at their house or something, putting their address out on the internet for hundreds of people to see. That just doesn’t sound safe to me.

The point I’m about to bring up now comes from my more recent job as a staff member. I help grade the quizzes and interview the applicants.  One thing that does kill me a little as an organizer though is the restrictions we have on what we can respond to with each individual quiz. I understand it’s to prevent any staff member from being bias, or potentially saying something wrong.  However, in school if you failed a quiz your teacher would work with you on what you got wrong so you could learn and grow. They didn’t just tell you to go back into the book and read, to try again later. And that’s what it feels like with the quiz right now.

I guess we can talk about the interview portion of the quiz now. I agree we should have the interview to give us more of a “vibe” check on the applicants. This is definitely something good and after doing interviews myself, I have found that you really do get to know the applicants and “vibe” check them. The Quiz itself should be what determines if they are ready to organize an event, while the interview is what we use to judge wether or not they seem trustworthy and safe to handle the vastly different types of beyblade players we have on the WBO.

I think that’s everything? I’m honestly not 100% sure. If I think of anything else I will add it in another post.

TLDR:

"Become An Organizer" Process - Does It Still Make Sense?

It’s a good base but needs to be more fine tuned.

Should There Be an Organizer Quiz Anymore?

Yes, but it needs to be redone and focused more on Organizing an event and less about the rules of beyblade that the WBO have decided on.

Should There Be a Scheduled Interview Anymore?

Yes, as it is a great way for the Staff to know what kind of person is trying to be an organizer and if they are more than just book ready to organize.

Any recommended changes?

Make the quiz more about organizing with the answers coming out of just the organizers guide instead of beyblade rulebooks.

Have an age requirement to become an organizer as it’s more of a job than just simply gathering people to meet up and play beyblade.

Allow staff to be more transparent with applicants on their quiz answers as they need to learn what they are not understanding or reading properly so they can become good organizers.
(Dec. 13, 2024  5:26 PM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote: There is so much I want to say about the Become an Organizer process, that I don’t even know where I want to begin. I’m also fairly certain that I will forget to put in some things that I have been actively thinking about, regarding this topic, just. Excuse it’s so much to sort through in my head.

I guess to start with I should say that I fully agree with having an organizer quiz as the starting point to become an organizer. However, I feel the quiz questions should focus more on how to organize a tournament rather than having any questions regarding the rules the WBO has put in place for Beyblade. This thought process comes from a few different things. The main thing being that playing beyblade and organizing a tournament are 2 completely different things. When you become an organizer you don’t get to go to a tournament and just play beyblade like everyone else. There is a long list of responsibilities that you have as an organizer and you must do them to make sure the tournament runs smoothly. First off you have to make your tournament thread and get it approved. In order to do that you have to make sure you have a location to host, a date, you need to know the amount of people your venue can hold, it’s just a lot of things you have to figure out even before you can get your tournament approved and posted onto the forums. Then once that’s done, you will eventually need to make a challonge page for your tournament, you have to make sure all of the settings are correct, as well as any specific information needed for the event. You will need to do a role call to see who all that had resigned up is there, then enter their usernames into the challonge. If you have new players you need to explain the rules of the format you are playing. (Or at least have someone there that can explain them best.) You need to make sure you have stadiums set up and judges to help keep matches going. You have to call out matches and try to have little to no stadium downtime. Then you still have to figure out the finals bracket and have that played out. If you’re playing a legacy format right now after the tournament is over you have to fill out a spreadsheet. Overall it’s a lot of WORK to be an organizer. I Organize weekly and at every tournament I do not get to free play off to the side with the other bladers. It’s saddening. But I know my job as an organizer is to organize the event and keep it running smoothly. Not just to play beyblade. I do think a lot of people that take the organizer quiz forget that this is what you are signing up for. You’re not signing up for a purple colored name and the ability to talk in the Organizer’s Circle chat on the forums/discord. It’s much much more than that. So I feel like the quiz is necessary and it should actually be quite hard so we can find the truly dedicated individuals that want to do this. Organizers sacrifice a lot just so others get to come to these tournaments and play beyblade.

Real quickly, just to come back to what I said about the quiz questions needing to be more about organizing instead of rulings for the actual game of beyblade. I do think a separate judge test would be nice to have to go along side the organizer quiz. But that is a topic for a later discussion.

Another key thing about the current test I want to highlight is that you have to find the answers through multiple organizer resources. A quiz that is determining whether or not you are qualified to organize an event should only need to be found in the organizers guide, and maybe the match type guide. Though it’s possible those might be better suited merged together?

The next topic of what I think is needed to qualify to become an organizer. Age. I do believe there should be a minimum age to hosting tournaments through the WBO. What age that is? I don’t know yet. But, why age? Well maturity is the main reason. You have to think about it. As an organizer, when hosting a tournament, you are in charge of the players that come to your event. You have to be firm with some things and quite frankly it can get really overwhelming for anyone that hasn’t developed the organizational skills required to do this type of thing yet. Not to mention you need to be able to handle any kind of situation that arises. Such as theft, or assault. These things are extremes, however they can and do happen from time to time. This is why I think age is important. We also don’t want someone young to try and host a tournament at their house or something, putting their address out on the internet for hundreds of people to see. That just doesn’t sound safe to me.

The point I’m about to bring up now comes from my more recent job as a staff member. I help grade the quizzes and interview the applicants.  One thing that does kill me a little as an organizer though is the restrictions we have on what we can respond to with each individual quiz. I understand it’s to prevent any staff member from being bias, or potentially saying something wrong.  However, in school if you failed a quiz your teacher would work with you on what you got wrong so you could learn and grow. They didn’t just tell you to go back into the book and read, to try again later. And that’s what it feels like with the quiz right now.

I guess we can talk about the interview portion of the quiz now. I agree we should have the interview to give us more of a “vibe” check on the applicants. This is definitely something good and after doing interviews myself, I have found that you really do get to know the applicants and “vibe” check them. The Quiz itself should be what determines if they are ready to organize an event, while the interview is what we use to judge wether or not they seem trustworthy and safe to handle the vastly different types of beyblade players we have on the WBO.

I think that’s everything? I’m honestly not 100% sure. If I think of anything else I will add it in another post.

TLDR:

"Become An Organizer" Process - Does It Still Make Sense?

It’s a good base but needs to be more fine tuned.

Should There Be an Organizer Quiz Anymore?

Yes, but it needs to be redone and focused more on Organizing an event and less about the rules of beyblade that the WBO have decided on.

Should There Be a Scheduled Interview Anymore?

Yes, as it is a great way for the Staff to know what kind of person is trying to be an organizer and if they are more than just book ready to organize.

Any recommended changes?

Make the quiz more about organizing with the answers coming out of just the organizers guide instead of beyblade rulebooks.

Have an age requirement to become an organizer as it’s more of a job than just simply gathering people to meet up and play beyblade.

Allow staff to be more transparent with applicants on their quiz answers as they need to learn what they are not understanding or reading properly so they can become good organizers.

I completely agree with everything that you are saying, especially the last paragraph. Being able to see the questions you missed (and not the answers) is a game changer imo. And I do feel like allowing this will be able to help future organizers grow like you said. 

(Side topic) But it’s unfortunate that you aren’t able to complete in your own tournaments. Have you tried saving your matches for last in each round? (If you do Swiss). If I was an organizer I would do that to make sure things stay smooth for everyone while still being able to compete (which would not be a priority for me, as ensuring the tournament goes well is more important imo.)
Everybody be honest here like this post if you agree

Age and requirements
I beg to differ with some the age/requirements. The age does not come across as fair when you take the test if you are under age however there should be a new mininum of 10 years.
Test questions
I agree with crisis Crusher we should actually have new questions focused around a organizers duties. We could have a essay on these new questions maybe 500. 
Failed Test
30 days is long. Especially if it's a Thanksgiving break. When you fail you should at least be told 1 of the questions you got wrong.
If something backfires whose fault is it
If something goes wrong it should be the organizers fault for not accounting for weather. However if the forecast is 90 degrees and it goes down 60 degrees it could be his fault depending on the situation.
There could be a job interview
The job interview could be a review of if you know how to work the system. Like knowing how to work challonge. How to post as an organizer. 
Don't have discord?
Some of us like me don't want discord and really don't care for it. So we should drop the interview entirely. 
Organizer Test
Sometimes you get one wrong and you don't get the title/role. So maybe not 90% answers right. Maybe 85% right or higher. I myself know how frustrating it is. 
How all of this fits into one point of interest.
With 85% right you can get the role however without you would get the a hint at the one you got wrong.
(Dec. 13, 2024  5:55 PM)Laban Vanot Wrote: I completely agree with everything that you are saying, especially the last paragraph. Being able to see the questions you missed (and not the answers) is a game changer imo. And I do feel like allowing this will be able to help future organizers grow like you said. 

(Side topic) But it’s unfortunate that you aren’t able to complete in your own tournaments. Have you tried saving your matches for last in each round? (If you do Swiss). If I was an organizer I would do that to make sure things stay smooth for everyone while still being able to compete (which would not be a priority for me, as ensuring the tournament goes well is more important imo.)

I get to compete in my own events. I just don’t have time or luxury to free play. So basically I’m organizing, I’ll play my match for the round while calling out matches if needed.
(Dec. 13, 2024  6:16 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Everybody be honest here like this post if you agree

Age and requirements
I beg to differ with some the age/requirements. The age does not come across as fair when you take the test if you are under age however there should be a new mininum of 10 years.
Test questions
I agree with crisis Crusher we should actually have new questions focused around a organizers duties. We could have a essay on these new questions maybe 500. 
Failed Test
30 days is long. Especially if it's a Thanksgiving break. When you fail you should at least be told 1 of the questions you got wrong.
If something backfires whose fault is it
If something goes wrong it should be the organizers fault for not accounting for weather. However if the forecast is 90 degrees and it goes down 60 degrees it could be his fault depending on the situation.
There could be a job interview
The job interview could be a review of if you know how to work the system. Like knowing how to work challonge. How to post as an organizer. 
Don't have discord?
Some of us like me don't want discord and really don't care for it. So we should drop the interview entirely. 
Organizer Test
Sometimes you get one wrong and you don't get the title/role. So maybe not 90% answers right. Maybe 85% right or higher. I myself know how frustrating it is. 
How all of this fits into one point of interest.
With 85% right you can get the role however without you would get the a hint at the one you got wrong.

A ten year old has no right hosting a tournament. If that happened I would be utterly ashamed in the WBO Staff for allowing such a thing. A ten year old does not have the skills to host such an important event. Especially with sudden changes or unexpected things happening. You could make the argument that the kids parent would be present but at that point it's just the parent hosting the tournament and the kid doing little to no work. Also In many cases it would put the 10 year old in danger if they did host a tournament similar to what VermillionMoon already touched on.

An essay wouldn't work because you can just get an AI to right it for you. And just seems like a illogical way to determine if someone if fit to host. I can agree the quiz needs some changes but swapping a quiz for an essay doesn't seem likely. Not to mention our staff aren't paid anything for being staff and I doubt any of them want to read hundreds of essays

30 days is a fine amount of time to wait if your patient. it gives you ample time to look over the Guide again and memorize it better. Plus, if we lower the day cap then theres nothing stopping people from spamming the quiz with attempts.

Most things that happen at an event the Organizer is liable for and should take responsibility for. The weather is wild so you can't put much blame to an Organizer. If something backfires then its on the Organizer to find a smart solution which brings us back to the age requirement. As you get older you tend to get better with quick thinking and problem solving, something a ten year old can have but is not too good at.

The Interview we have is basically a job interview with the way it works. I would know since I had the interview.

The issue of not having Discord is something I can agree with and I'm not sure an easy fix for that. I'd personally disagree with dropping the interview and why would you want to drop it as right before dropping the interview you mentioned having a job interview.

For getting questions wrong there's no way to know if you even got one wrong. If I'm not mistaken it never mentions anything about the percent of questions you need to pass. Even if we did know the percent to pass, lowering the percentage just results in less competent people passing. I do agree on the staff being more transparent with the Quiz but there's no need to lower the correct answer requirements. 

TLDR: 
A ten year old should never have such an important role. An essay allows for AI to get involved and aint no body got time to read a bunch of essays. Lowering the 30 day retake cap allows for quiz spamming. An Organizer is usually responsible for any and all accidents or backfires at an event. The interview allows Staff to get a better understanding of a person with a more thorough evaluation. Not having Discord makes things tricky so that could use a rework somehow. Lowering the correct question requirement lets less competent people gain access, though more staff transparency and help is a must.
(Dec. 13, 2024  6:16 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Everybody be honest here like this post if you agree

Age and requirements
I beg to differ with some the age/requirements. The age does not come across as fair when you take the test if you are under age however there should be a new mininum of 10 years.
Test questions
I agree with crisis Crusher we should actually have new questions focused around a organizers duties. We could have a essay on these new questions maybe 500. 
Failed Test
30 days is long. Especially if it's a Thanksgiving break. When you fail you should at least be told 1 of the questions you got wrong.
If something backfires whose fault is it
If something goes wrong it should be the organizers fault for not accounting for weather. However if the forecast is 90 degrees and it goes down 60 degrees it could be his fault depending on the situation.
There could be a job interview
The job interview could be a review of if you know how to work the system. Like knowing how to work challonge. How to post as an organizer. 
Don't have discord?
Some of us like me don't want discord and really don't care for it. So we should drop the interview entirely. 
Organizer Test
Sometimes you get one wrong and you don't get the title/role. So maybe not 90% answers right. Maybe 85% right or higher. I myself know how frustrating it is. 
How all of this fits into one point of interest.
With 85% right you can get the role however without you would get the a hint at the one you got wrong.

1. You say you beg to differ on age but saying that the minimum age should be 10? Most 10 year olds in America are in fifth grade. Heck I would argue that the minimum age should be 16 due to the fact that at least they have slight maturity compared to a middle schooler. If you saw my original argument against you above, you would see my huge take and reason why there should be such a high age limit. 

2. Nothing much to say here

3. No, as Frisk mentioned before the test is easy to do if you study. This isn't some school quiz, this is a test to become an organizer for events in your district. They are strict for a reason.

4 and 5. Nothing much to say here

6. The interview is important since it lets the staff get to know the organizer and have an idea of what to expect from them. Not to mention the discord is how you communicate to the organizer directly compared to the chatboards on the WBO

7. Again, just study harder

8. Honestly the only thing I will stay here is that perhaps the staff can implement an oral interview where they will straight up ask you questions on a voice call and you have to get them right
(Dec. 13, 2024  8:01 PM)Frisk291 Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  6:16 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Everybody be honest here like this post if you agree

Age and requirements
I beg to differ with some the age/requirements. The age does not come across as fair when you take the test if you are under age however there should be a new mininum of 10 years.
Test questions
I agree with crisis Crusher we should actually have new questions focused around a organizers duties. We could have a essay on these new questions maybe 500. 
Failed Test
30 days is long. Especially if it's a Thanksgiving break. When you fail you should at least be told 1 of the questions you got wrong.
If something backfires whose fault is it
If something goes wrong it should be the organizers fault for not accounting for weather. However if the forecast is 90 degrees and it goes down 60 degrees it could be his fault depending on the situation.
There could be a job interview
The job interview could be a review of if you know how to work the system. Like knowing how to work challonge. How to post as an organizer. 
Don't have discord?
Some of us like me don't want discord and really don't care for it. So we should drop the interview entirely. 
Organizer Test
Sometimes you get one wrong and you don't get the title/role. So maybe not 90% answers right. Maybe 85% right or higher. I myself know how frustrating it is. 
How all of this fits into one point of interest.
With 85% right you can get the role however without you would get the a hint at the one you got wrong.

A ten year old has no right hosting a tournament. If that happened I would be utterly ashamed in the WBO Staff for allowing such a thing. A ten year old does not have the skills to host such an important event. Especially with sudden changes or unexpected things happening. You could make the argument that the kids parent would be present but at that point it's just the parent hosting the tournament and the kid doing little to no work. Also In many cases it would put the 10 year old in danger if they did host a tournament similar to what VermillionMoon already touched on.

An essay wouldn't work because you can just get an AI to right it for you. And just seems like a illogical way to determine if someone if fit to host. I can agree the quiz needs some changes but swapping a quiz for an essay doesn't seem likely. Not to mention our staff aren't paid anything for being staff and I doubt any of them want to read hundreds of essays

30 days is a fine amount of time to wait if your patient. it gives you ample time to look over the Guide again and memorize it better. Plus, if we lower the day cap then theres nothing stopping people from spamming the quiz with attempts.

Most things that happen at an event the Organizer is liable for and should take responsibility for. The weather is wild so you can't put much blame to an Organizer. If something backfires then its on the Organizer to find a smart solution which brings us back to the age requirement. As you get older you tend to get better with quick thinking and problem solving, something a ten year old can have but is not too good at.

The Interview we have is basically a job interview with the way it works. I would know since I had the interview.

The issue of not having Discord is something I can agree with and I'm not sure an easy fix for that. I'd personally disagree with dropping the interview and why would you want to drop it as right before dropping the interview you mentioned having a job interview.

For getting questions wrong there's no way to know if you even got one wrong. If I'm not mistaken it never mentions anything about the percent of questions you need to pass. Even if we did know the percent to pass, lowering the percentage just results in less competent people passing. I do agree on the staff being more transparent with the Quiz but there's no need to lower the correct answer requirements. 

TLDR: 
A ten year old should never have such an important role. An essay allows for AI to get involved and aint no body got time to read a bunch of essays. Lowering the 30 day retake cap allows for quiz spamming. An Organizer is usually responsible for any and all accidents or backfires at an event. The interview allows Staff to get a better understanding of a person with a more thorough evaluation. Not having Discord makes things tricky so that could use a rework somehow. Lowering the correct question requirement lets less competent people gain access, though more staff transparency and help is a must.

Maybe not 10 years but still....
Like if you agree
(Dec. 13, 2024  8:35 PM)DRTACOS Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  8:01 PM)Frisk291 Wrote: A ten year old has no right hosting a tournament. If that happened I would be utterly ashamed in the WBO Staff for allowing such a thing. A ten year old does not have the skills to host such an important event. Especially with sudden changes or unexpected things happening. You could make the argument that the kids parent would be present but at that point it's just the parent hosting the tournament and the kid doing little to no work. Also In many cases it would put the 10 year old in danger if they did host a tournament similar to what VermillionMoon already touched on.

An essay wouldn't work because you can just get an AI to right it for you. And just seems like a illogical way to determine if someone if fit to host. I can agree the quiz needs some changes but swapping a quiz for an essay doesn't seem likely. Not to mention our staff aren't paid anything for being staff and I doubt any of them want to read hundreds of essays

30 days is a fine amount of time to wait if your patient. it gives you ample time to look over the Guide again and memorize it better. Plus, if we lower the day cap then theres nothing stopping people from spamming the quiz with attempts.

Most things that happen at an event the Organizer is liable for and should take responsibility for. The weather is wild so you can't put much blame to an Organizer. If something backfires then its on the Organizer to find a smart solution which brings us back to the age requirement. As you get older you tend to get better with quick thinking and problem solving, something a ten year old can have but is not too good at.

The Interview we have is basically a job interview with the way it works. I would know since I had the interview.

The issue of not having Discord is something I can agree with and I'm not sure an easy fix for that. I'd personally disagree with dropping the interview and why would you want to drop it as right before dropping the interview you mentioned having a job interview.

For getting questions wrong there's no way to know if you even got one wrong. If I'm not mistaken it never mentions anything about the percent of questions you need to pass. Even if we did know the percent to pass, lowering the percentage just results in less competent people passing. I do agree on the staff being more transparent with the Quiz but there's no need to lower the correct answer requirements. 

TLDR: 
A ten year old should never have such an important role. An essay allows for AI to get involved and aint no body got time to read a bunch of essays. Lowering the 30 day retake cap allows for quiz spamming. An Organizer is usually responsible for any and all accidents or backfires at an event. The interview allows Staff to get a better understanding of a person with a more thorough evaluation. Not having Discord makes things tricky so that could use a rework somehow. Lowering the correct question requirement lets less competent people gain access, though more staff transparency and help is a must.

Maybe not 10 years but still....
Like if you agree

There is no "but still", there have been several arguments against yours on why no tweens should run tournaments. Quite literally if you scroll to the argument from when I first replied, you would see why this is bad.
Perhaps 12 thats when the maturity starts

New Cap on Tests
Maybe 20 days? If this proves ineffeciant we can always move it back
Discord Issue
If some of us don't have discord we could always talk over Google meet or chat.
Hosting 
If The person hosting proves to be inefficant we can always revoke their access right?
Failed Tests
This is what happens when you fail.
(Dec. 06, 2024  1:11 AM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote: Unfortunately, you failed to pass the Organizer’s Quiz. If you wish to attempt the quiz again, do so 30 days after your last quiz submission.
As is mentioned on the Become an Organizer page, I am not able to discuss which questions were answered correctly or incorrectly. We are a volunteer-based organization and unfortunately do not have the resources to do so for the large volume of quiz takers. Thank you for your understanding.

"We are a volunteer-based organization" is what they say when you fail. So then why not let us volunteer. 
My solution
I believe now that the test should be what an organizer does. Host. Why not do this? Well it is not foolproof but we as bladers strive to perfect ourselves. 

(Dec. 12, 2024  11:02 PM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote:
(Dec. 12, 2024  6:01 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Is it because I'm "Underage?" If so I can have my dad do it

No. It’s because you didn’t get 90% or more correct.
This is what happens when I dug deeper. I believe that this is necessary.

I now that I have been on both sides of the argument but deep down I know who's side i'm on

(Dec. 13, 2024  8:51 PM)VermillionMoon Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  8:35 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Maybe not 10 years but still....
Like if you agree

There is no "but still", there have been several arguments against yours on why no tweens should run tournaments. Quite literally if you scroll to the argument from when I first replied, you would see why this is bad.

Also btw I couldn't I had you ignored!

(Dec. 13, 2024  3:21 PM)VermillionMoon Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  2:27 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: The Sheldon Cooper arguement was for the statement that some 12-13 yr olds could be mature enough and if they are I say let em cook! If they aren't follow through with procedure. The 63.3% of children who I quoted were for the ones who play sports and with this we should be able to help expand because they has only been 1 tournament in NE in the 10 yrs for as much as I know so if they were as mature as Sheldon Cooper they could become something better than this website might have ever been!

Firstly, there are multitude of reasons on why the age limit exists. One of the biggest parts is the safety of the child hoster, some events could be unpredictable and if they don't handle the event well then it could end badly and with someone getting harmed. Not to mention the fact that a minor, whose brain isn't fully developed, has to find a spot to host. Sure you can argue that most 12-13 year olds could be mature, which personally is not true about this generation, it is the fact that it is overall a risk for the minor and they could be endangered. I also have to add if you think you're mature then I would advise you thoroughly read through the threads and comments you have posted on this site. Not to mention the time you also said a school name around your area. Now I am not trying to put you down, I am just proving the point that age IS in fact important for Organizers

(Dec. 13, 2024  3:21 PM)VermillionMoon Wrote: Firstly, there are multitude of reasons on why the age limit exists. One of the biggest parts is the safety of the child hoster, some events could be unpredictable and if they don't handle the event well then it could end badly and with someone getting harmed. Not to mention the fact that a minor, whose brain isn't fully developed, has to find a spot to host. Sure you can argue that most 12-13 year olds could be mature, which personally is not true about this generation, it is the fact that it is overall a risk for the minor and they could be endangered. I also have to add if you think you're mature then I would advise you thoroughly read through the threads and comments you have posted on this site. Not to mention the time you also said a school name around your area. Now I am not trying to put you down, I am just proving the point that age IS in fact important for Organizers

To add on Sheldon Cooper is the worst example you can use, in the show Sheldon is ACADEMICALLY smart, not emotionally smart. He is shown to throw fits and tantrums whenever he gets his ways. An organizer needs to be mature and not throw fits whenever their players don't listen to them. Overall all your arguments are mainly biased, and I say that respectfully and nicely since Sheldon is the furthest thing from mature in the ENTIRETY of the show. Before you make an argument at least use correct evidence

I say from here on out Google the school name you will not find anything around circulating back to me.

Anywayyyyy, try it guys let them cook now I won't be on here for a while but still if they prove capable. LET THEM COOK! If they don't them I'm happy to let you know, They might not be like me
(Dec. 13, 2024  6:22 PM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  5:55 PM)Laban Vanot Wrote: I completely agree with everything that you are saying, especially the last paragraph. Being able to see the questions you missed (and not the answers) is a game changer imo. And I do feel like allowing this will be able to help future organizers grow like you said. 

(Side topic) But it’s unfortunate that you aren’t able to complete in your own tournaments. Have you tried saving your matches for last in each round? (If you do Swiss). If I was an organizer I would do that to make sure things stay smooth for everyone while still being able to compete (which would not be a priority for me, as ensuring the tournament goes well is more important imo.)

I get to compete in my own events. I just don’t have time or luxury to free play. So basically I’m organizing, I’ll play my match for the round while calling out matches if needed.

Yeah I completely understand you on that lol. It sucks not being able to go over combos and make changes after losing cause you immediately have to go into organizing the next round oof. Just the price that organizers have to pay.
(Dec. 13, 2024  8:01 PM)Frisk291 Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  6:16 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Everybody be honest here like this post if you agree

Age and requirements
I beg to differ with some the age/requirements. The age does not come across as fair when you take the test if you are under age however there should be a new mininum of 10 years.
Test questions
I agree with crisis Crusher we should actually have new questions focused around a organizers duties. We could have a essay on these new questions maybe 500. 
Failed Test
30 days is long. Especially if it's a Thanksgiving break. When you fail you should at least be told 1 of the questions you got wrong.
If something backfires whose fault is it
If something goes wrong it should be the organizers fault for not accounting for weather. However if the forecast is 90 degrees and it goes down 60 degrees it could be his fault depending on the situation.
There could be a job interview
The job interview could be a review of if you know how to work the system. Like knowing how to work challonge. How to post as an organizer. 
Don't have discord?
Some of us like me don't want discord and really don't care for it. So we should drop the interview entirely. 
Organizer Test
Sometimes you get one wrong and you don't get the title/role. So maybe not 90% answers right. Maybe 85% right or higher. I myself know how frustrating it is. 
How all of this fits into one point of interest.
With 85% right you can get the role however without you would get the a hint at the one you got wrong.

For getting questions wrong there's no way to know if you even got one wrong. If I'm not mistaken it never mentions anything about the percent of questions you need to pass. Even if we did know the percent to pass, lowering the percentage just results in less competent people passing. I do agree on the staff being more transparent with the Quiz but there's no need to lower the correct answer requirements. 

The Quiz page says it requires 9/10 (90%) correct answers. I would assume that not telling what questions you get wrong is probably to prevent people from trying to brute-force the quiz without studying at all, but who knows. It would be interesting to hear the reasoning behind it, if the staff team were able to share.


(Dec. 13, 2024  6:16 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Everybody be honest here like this post if you agree

Age and requirements
I beg to differ with some the age/requirements. The age does not come across as fair when you take the test if you are under age however there should be a new mininum of 10 years.
Test questions
I agree with crisis Crusher we should actually have new questions focused around a organizers duties. We could have a essay on these new questions maybe 500. 
Failed Test
30 days is long. Especially if it's a Thanksgiving break. When you fail you should at least be told 1 of the questions you got wrong.
If something backfires whose fault is it
If something goes wrong it should be the organizers fault for not accounting for weather. However if the forecast is 90 degrees and it goes down 60 degrees it could be his fault depending on the situation.
There could be a job interview
The job interview could be a review of if you know how to work the system. Like knowing how to work challonge. How to post as an organizer. 
Don't have discord?
Some of us like me don't want discord and really don't care for it. So we should drop the interview entirely. 
Organizer Test
Sometimes you get one wrong and you don't get the title/role. So maybe not 90% answers right. Maybe 85% right or higher. I myself know how frustrating it is. 
How all of this fits into one point of interest.
With 85% right you can get the role however without you would get the a hint at the one you got wrong.

1. The minimum age requirement (from the "Become an Organizer" page) is 13, which is the same as for the majority of social media sites, including Discord. I think this is perfectly fair, and considering how immature I was at 13 it honestly seems pretty lenient. If it weren't for the requirement that Organizers under 18 must be accompanied by a parent/guardian, I might even say that it's too lenient. 
The age requirement has nothing to do with whether or not you are able to pass the quiz, it's entirely to do with going out, meeting people, and physically hosting a tournament.
2. Like Frisk said, an essay in place of the interview wouldn't work because of generative AI. Besides, an essay can't replace an interview; that's why you have job interviews and aren't just hired off of what your resume says. 
As for the questions themselves... it's a mixed bag. On the one hand, I think it makes sense that the organizer quiz should help people be prepared to, well, organize an event. On the other hand, I think that if prospective organizers can't prove that they understand the rules of the game and how to judge, then there'd be little difference between a WBO tournament and those Gamestop events that Hasbro did.
3. 30 days is fine, it prevents application spam and limits how many quizzes the staff have to review at once. It also gives you plenty of time to slow down and study up! If you're impatient, you'll just make more mistakes. The quiz is open-book with no time limit, it's more lenient than most school quizzes are.
4. Some things are within the Organizer's control, other things fall on the players that signed up, and some things are out of anyone's control. Putting the Organizer in charge of the weather is, quite frankly, simply absurd. Tournaments are oftentimes planned out several weeks in advance, far beyond what weather forecasts can predict.
That being said, I believe it does fall on the Organizer to monitor the weather and be prepared to cancel the tournament and notify participants if it is being hosted outdoors during the rainy season. However, the participants are also responsible for checking the event page (and the community discord, if your area has one) for updates, as well as dropping themselves from the tournament or notifying the Organizer if they can no longer attend.
5. That's... basically the point of the interview they currently do. They already do this, it's half of what this whole thread was about: getting feedback on the quiz and the interview.
6. Some people not having Discord is... actually not a terrible point, I wonder if it would be possible for the staff team to branch out to Zoom or Google Meets; although that may be even more resource-demanding. You also suggest dropping the interviews entirely, which... you literally just suggested that they should have interviews in your previous point.
7 & 8. Again, the quiz isn't about just getting a fancy role or title, it's part of the process of being allowed to host tournaments on the WBO. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised that the quiz is only 10 questions. Maybe if there were more questions, they could decrease the % needed to pass and/or ask for your reasoning behind incorrect answers during the interview? Which would also require more staff resources.
ye I am all of the place aren't I? I mean I've been all over the place with this arguement so...I'm done here my opion varies apparently
I think we still need a quiz. it could use some updating as others have said. It should be a little more clear that both the quiz and interview are untimed and open book. Really spell it out so people are less intimidated. Maybe we can reduce the period on retaking the quiz as well.

The interview process is important to make sure that people are going to be safe. No one should be hosting a tournament as a minor without parental support. Minors can't legally consent to the terms of the organizer contract with FIghting Spirits LLC.

I think that the organizer role should be for people who are running or helping to run official WBO tournaments. Personally, I became an organizer to so that I could enter the results of the matches I judges into Challonge.

I hear all the time about scenes that don't organize with us because of various reasons. In an effort to increase inclusivity, and foster growth in new scenes, I would like to see the community channels for all the states opened up to allow WBO members (not organizers), to advertise Meetups with the help of our platform.
(Dec. 13, 2024  9:20 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Perhaps 12 thats when the maturity starts

New Cap on Tests
Maybe 20 days? If this proves ineffeciant we can always move it back
Discord Issue
If some of us don't have discord we could always talk over Google meet or chat.
Hosting 
If The person hosting proves to be inefficant we can always revoke their access right?
Failed Tests
This is what happens when you fail.
(Dec. 06, 2024  1:11 AM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote: Unfortunately, you failed to pass the Organizer’s Quiz. If you wish to attempt the quiz again, do so 30 days after your last quiz submission.
As is mentioned on the Become an Organizer page, I am not able to discuss which questions were answered correctly or incorrectly. We are a volunteer-based organization and unfortunately do not have the resources to do so for the large volume of quiz takers. Thank you for your understanding.

"We are a volunteer-based organization" is what they say when you fail. So then why not let us volunteer. 
My solution
I believe now that the test should be what an organizer does. Host. Why not do this? Well it is not foolproof but we as bladers strive to perfect ourselves. 

(Dec. 12, 2024  11:02 PM)CrisisCrusher07 Wrote: No. It’s because you didn’t get 90% or more correct.
This is what happens when I dug deeper. I believe that this is necessary.

I now that I have been on both sides of the argument but deep down I know who's side i'm on

(Dec. 13, 2024  8:51 PM)VermillionMoon Wrote: There is no "but still", there have been several arguments against yours on why no tweens should run tournaments. Quite literally if you scroll to the argument from when I first replied, you would see why this is bad.

Also btw I couldn't I had you ignored!

(Dec. 13, 2024  3:21 PM)VermillionMoon Wrote: Firstly, there are multitude of reasons on why the age limit exists. One of the biggest parts is the safety of the child hoster, some events could be unpredictable and if they don't handle the event well then it could end badly and with someone getting harmed. Not to mention the fact that a minor, whose brain isn't fully developed, has to find a spot to host. Sure you can argue that most 12-13 year olds could be mature, which personally is not true about this generation, it is the fact that it is overall a risk for the minor and they could be endangered. I also have to add if you think you're mature then I would advise you thoroughly read through the threads and comments you have posted on this site. Not to mention the time you also said a school name around your area. Now I am not trying to put you down, I am just proving the point that age IS in fact important for Organizers


To add on Sheldon Cooper is the worst example you can use, in the show Sheldon is ACADEMICALLY smart, not emotionally smart. He is shown to throw fits and tantrums whenever he gets his ways. An organizer needs to be mature and not throw fits whenever their players don't listen to them. Overall all your arguments are mainly biased, and I say that respectfully and nicely since Sheldon is the furthest thing from mature in the ENTIRETY of the show. Before you make an argument at least use correct evidence

I say from here on out Google the school name you will not find anything around circulating back to me.

Anywayyyyy, try it guys let them cook now I won't be on here for a while but still if they prove capable. LET THEM COOK! If they don't them I'm happy to let you know, They might not be like me

That is still a breach of your own privacy saying the school name. Sure it won't directly give someone the coordinates of your home but you still shouldn't be so careless, that is still something that was extremely dangerous and immature of you to do in the first place. Also this is not meant to be bashing, but you talk about being mature while in multiple of your posts having to do with "Making a US Beyblade League", you have shown to anyone that you do not have this so called maturity you speak of, you get mad at others easily for not liking your ideas, and take pieces of critiques as attacks on yourself. I also say this respectfully but you practically leaked yourself for being middle school aged on the School Forum tab, middle schoolers are far from mature and in my opinion? They shouldn't even allow the age limit to host be 13, they should raise it to 15-16 aka sophomore year and above in the United States, this would make it so that the event organizers at least grow up a bit before they even could host. You say "Let them cook" but you fail to realize the actual horrible consequences that could happen if the WBO were to risk doing something so lenient and borderline unsafe. Frisk has brought up so many good points against your claims and arguments as well, along with BladerGem. Personally I wasn't even planning on commenting on this post until I read your arguments, as someone who currently does not even really care about being an organizer, I won't get into the other things you said on this post as Frisk and BladerGem already said rather fabulous arguments and rebuttals, but when it comes to age and maturity? That's when I decided to get involved because there is no way they should even think of lowering the age limit, and as I said earlier, I think they should increase it. The reason of the age limit being 13 was most likely due to the fact that the founding members of the WBO were teenagers when the site was made, who wanted to play with other teens in their area, but now that times have changed, so should that age limit. Another thing, majority of your claims here have been extremely biased to yourself, which this may be nitpicking, but you really should avoid that when making a solid argument.
As a brand new organizer with a fresh take on the process I'll throw in my two cents.
The whole process start to finish took me not long at all. Maybe within a week or two I had my quiz results, interview scheduled and completed, and permissions granted for the site, discord, and challonge access. I've already got my first tournament up on WBO and challonge.

The organizers test seemed fine, it was more of a way to make sure people knew where to find the resources and how to use them to get to the right answer. If anything changes, I think keeping that mindset would be beneficial.

The interview adds a human interaction to really see if a candidate is what staff are looking for in an organizer, in about 30 minutes the staff member in the call has to assess whether the candidate is a good match or not. I suppose the staff members would have a better take on it, but I found it to be a decent discussion about a hobby we share.

A difficult barrier to entry isn't a bad thing, they can still organize on their own. This is where staff need to be concerned about associating the WBO with a potential organizer and ensuring they're ready for larger events.

Two cents Zev out!
I really only have 3 suggestions for the quiz

1) Like others have said, some of the questions are outdated and/or need updating. I would appreciate if they were updated. (It would be cool for the question to specify which Beyblade gen the question is talking about)

2) Either a) reduce the percentage needed to pass or b) let the applicant know what questions he/she missed (without the correct answers shared too of course) (personally I prefer b). I feel with basically needing a 100% to pass the quiz, it would be beneficial to applicants to at least be let known of what they missed. As CrisisCrusher07 explained, allowing this would allow applicants an opportunity for growth, for something they know to work towards. If this can’t be possible, then a) could be an alternative (of course don’t lower the passing percentage too much, especially since there’s only 10 questions)

3) Reduce the wait time between attempts from 30 days (1 month) to 14 days (2 weeks). I personally feel like the current wait time is too long, especially with the fact that missed questions are not revealed. I also feel that 2 weeks is more than enough time to go over what was missed without being too long of a wait. If the quiz already revealed missed questions, I wouldn’t mind the wait as much, but since it doesn’t I’m suggesting this.

Overall I share all the same opinions as CrisisCrusher07, I just had a few points I wanted to add. I hope they can be considered by the WBO Staff.
(Dec. 14, 2024  5:27 AM)VermillionMoon Wrote:
(Dec. 13, 2024  9:20 PM)DRTACOS Wrote: Perhaps 12 thats when the maturity starts

New Cap on Tests
Maybe 20 days? If this proves ineffeciant we can always move it back
Discord Issue
If some of us don't have discord we could always talk over Google meet or chat.
Hosting 
If The person hosting proves to be inefficant we can always revoke their access right?
Failed Tests
This is what happens when you fail.

"We are a volunteer-based organization" is what they say when you fail. So then why not let us volunteer. 
My solution
I believe now that the test should be what an organizer does. Host. Why not do this? Well it is not foolproof but we as bladers strive to perfect ourselves. 

This is what happens when I dug deeper. I believe that this is necessary.

I now that I have been on both sides of the argument but deep down I know who's side i'm on


Also btw I couldn't I had you ignored!


I say from here on out Google the school name you will not find anything around circulating back to me.

Anywayyyyy, try it guys let them cook now I won't be on here for a while but still if they prove capable. LET THEM COOK! If they don't them I'm happy to let you know, They might not be like me

That is still a breach of your own privacy saying the school name. Sure it won't directly give someone the coordinates of your home but you still shouldn't be so careless, that is still something that was extremely dangerous and immature of you to do in the first place. Also this is not meant to be bashing, but you talk about being mature while in multiple of your posts having to do with "Making a US Beyblade League", you have shown to anyone that you do not have this so called maturity you speak of, you get mad at others easily for not liking your ideas, and take pieces of critiques as attacks on yourself. I also say this respectfully but you practically leaked yourself for being middle school aged on the School Forum tab, middle schoolers are far from mature and in my opinion? They shouldn't even allow the age limit to host be 13, they should raise it to 15-16 aka sophomore year and above in the United States, this would make it so that the event organizers at least grow up a bit before they even could host. You say "Let them cook" but you fail to realize the actual horrible consequences that could happen if the WBO were to risk doing something so lenient and borderline unsafe. Frisk has brought up so many good points against your claims and arguments as well, along with BladerGem. Personally I wasn't even planning on commenting on this post until I read your arguments, as someone who currently does not even really care about being an organizer, I won't get into the other things you said on this post as Frisk and BladerGem already said rather fabulous arguments and rebuttals, but when it comes to age and maturity? That's when I decided to get involved because there is no way they should even think of lowering the age limit, and as I said earlier, I think they should increase it. The reason of the age limit being 13 was most likely due to the fact that the founding members of the WBO were teenagers when the site was made, who wanted to play with other teens in their area, but now that times have changed, so should that age limit. Another thing, majority of your claims here have been extremely biased to yourself, which this may be nitpicking, but you really should avoid that when making a solid argument.

I find that as nitpicking and you see...I don't know if you know this or not there are 25 places where Hastings is a name like do you do research?

Also...I don't care If it is biased towards me,but as you can tell I am all over the place rn and don't care for your arguments.
If we were true adults we would not be arguing as that is obviously as "Immature".

My new arguement

1 I made I solid Point with the discord issue; Some of us might not have it and care to get it.

2 Okay maybe some people are immature at 12 and we can tell by looking at their posts; I mean some of us have our good days and bad days but it just doesn't seem fair to judge based off a recent post we don't know what they have been through in that day and really sometimes arguing with it makes it worse *COUGH Vermillionmoon*

3 Okay you make a good point but we cannot know until we try. I mean like...sure I take them as attacks on myself but only because everybody at my old school, was attacking me and I am sorry if this is immature but...sometimes don't judge a book by it's cover it might just become something that is better.

4 Okay bud...If you don't let them too cook? I say you are not aware of how much potential this generation has. My BSA troop literally has beyblade battles for fun. Plus you don't know if they have some kind of disorder that makes them like that. For example they could be ADHD you don't know do you? So yeah they could be immature to you because you do not have a disorder. The 16% might just be the ones that make you think that. I know that I am one of them

Okay throw whatever you have at me I will be able to turn your words against you.

5 You say you are so mature? Then why are you constantly making 90% of your arguements against me? Ye this is kinda known as targeting in Gen alpha. So...

So bye hope you have a fun time
(Dec. 16, 2024  11:51 PM)DRTACOS Wrote:
(Dec. 14, 2024  5:27 AM)VermillionMoon Wrote: That is still a breach of your own privacy saying the school name. Sure it won't directly give someone the coordinates of your home but you still shouldn't be so careless, that is still something that was extremely dangerous and immature of you to do in the first place. Also this is not meant to be bashing, but you talk about being mature while in multiple of your posts having to do with "Making a US Beyblade League", you have shown to anyone that you do not have this so called maturity you speak of, you get mad at others easily for not liking your ideas, and take pieces of critiques as attacks on yourself. I also say this respectfully but you practically leaked yourself for being middle school aged on the School Forum tab, middle schoolers are far from mature and in my opinion? They shouldn't even allow the age limit to host be 13, they should raise it to 15-16 aka sophomore year and above in the United States, this would make it so that the event organizers at least grow up a bit before they even could host. You say "Let them cook" but you fail to realize the actual horrible consequences that could happen if the WBO were to risk doing something so lenient and borderline unsafe. Frisk has brought up so many good points against your claims and arguments as well, along with BladerGem. Personally I wasn't even planning on commenting on this post until I read your arguments, as someone who currently does not even really care about being an organizer, I won't get into the other things you said on this post as Frisk and BladerGem already said rather fabulous arguments and rebuttals, but when it comes to age and maturity? That's when I decided to get involved because there is no way they should even think of lowering the age limit, and as I said earlier, I think they should increase it. The reason of the age limit being 13 was most likely due to the fact that the founding members of the WBO were teenagers when the site was made, who wanted to play with other teens in their area, but now that times have changed, so should that age limit. Another thing, majority of your claims here have been extremely biased to yourself, which this may be nitpicking, but you really should avoid that when making a solid argument.

I find that as nitpicking and you see...I don't know if you know this or not there are 25 places where Hastings is a name like do you do research?

Also...I don't care If it is biased towards me,but as you can tell I am all over the place rn and don't care for your arguments.
If we were true adults we would not be arguing as that is obviously as "Immature".

My new arguement

1 I made I solid Point with the discord issue; Some of us might not have it and care to get it.

2 Okay maybe some people are immature at 12 and we can tell by looking at their posts; I mean some of us have our good days and bad days but it just doesn't seem fair to judge based off a recent post we don't know what they have been through in that day and really sometimes arguing with it makes it worse *COUGH Vermillionmoon*

3 Okay you make a good point but we cannot know until we try. I mean like...sure I take them as attacks on myself but only because everybody at my old school, was attacking me and I am sorry if this is immature but...sometimes don't judge a book by it's cover it might just become something that is better.

4 Okay bud...If you don't let them too cook? I say you are not aware of how much potential this generation has. My BSA troop literally has beyblade battles for fun. Plus you don't know if they have some kind of disorder that makes them like that. For example they could be ADHD you don't know do you? So yeah they could be immature to you because you do not have a disorder. The 16% might just be the ones that make you think that. I know that I am one of them

Okay throw whatever you have at me I will be able to turn your words against you.

5 You say you are so mature? Then why are you constantly making 90% of your arguements against me? Ye this is kinda known as targeting in Gen alpha. So...

So bye hope you have a fun time

First off the post where you posted the name of the school has the rules of the post in the first comment ("Please try not to infringe on your own and others’ privacy"), I was nitpicking on this because you still should not just name drop a school near you, that's a danger for your own well being and I was making sure you know that you shouldn't even do anything close to that


1. Honestly I do agree with your take on Discord, but I was pointing out that that was how Bladers interact with the event Organizers and that it is needed for interviews

2. Sure you could've had a bad day and we wouldn't know about it, so if anything I apologize if that was the case, but that doesn't mean it gives anyone the right to act unruly or out of place just due to their mood. 

3. I accept your apology and I hope you accept mine as well


4. This generation has potential, but they should wait to reach the proper age; just because they may be mature does not mean that they should allow them to be Organizers. They should wait for their own time. Yes you may be right on me not knowing if they have disorders, but its not as if I assumed if they are. All I said was that majority of middle schoolers these days are immature which all middle schoolers are in terms of all generations

5. I never said I was mature, I am still maturing myself, but I only made these arguments due to the fact that you brought up rather confusing and shaky claims. I only argued mainly about your age argument. Which I stated from my earlier posts on here. The reason I nitpick so much is from the fact you remind me of myself from when I was about your age, I was saying similar things you said, which is why I am arguing since I want you to learn faster than me
I appreciate a lot of the input and insight found here, it has been very helpful overall. Thank you everyone for pitching in your thoughts and participating in this discussion.

I just wanted to make it known that we are now working on a slightly modified process that we'll be sharing with everyone as soon as we can! Thanks
(Dec. 24, 2024  3:26 AM)Dan Wrote: I appreciate a lot of the input and insight found here, it has been very helpful overall. Thank you everyone for pitching in your thoughts and participating in this discussion.

I just wanted to make it known that we are now working on a slightly modified process that we'll be sharing with everyone as soon as we can! Thanks
Great to hear! Can't wait to hear it.