So this is basically my first combo testing thread so please give me some feedback. I've been interested in Balro Gryph for a long time and decided to test it out while I was trying to find a combo that could sway but out spin some stamina and defence types.

Also credits go to Meow! for introducing the SA165WSF setup before me I supposed.

Combo Breakdown:

Stone Face

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For extra stamina and the fact I currently have no MSF to use so its not mandatory to use one to reduce the recoil

Gryph

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Gryph is known for is extremely high spin velocity and its ability to possess upper smash or force smash depending on how you use it however it also has decent amount of recoil when paired up againts various opponents

Balro

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Balro is one of today top tier attack wheels also its the only best attack wheel other then phoenic I currently owned also it meant to supply smash into the custom

SA165 (normal mode)

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SA165 is one of my most favorite tracks and it provide a decent height for Gryph and its used in normal mode for extra stamina while in attack mode it scrapes and kills most of its spin

WSF

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I recently obtained this tip and felt interested in it's performance. For the most part WSF allows this combo to sway while not losing reliable stamina while being a mix of stamina and attack

Set up:
Beylauncher LR
Segment Grip
Beylauncher Suspension
Zero-G Balance type Stadium

Test

Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs MF-H Duo Aquario B:D
Gryph:19(4 OS,15 KO)
Duo: 1( 1 KO)[/color]
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Duo basically died here, The results would be obvious since sway kills stamina but if Duo wasn't swayed out it would normally be tossed around losing any stamina it had left also I had an semi aggressive B:D so i think that could of altered the results. Gryph was launch first and then Duo same step was reapeated ever since.

Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs Ifraid Bahamdia E230GCF
Gryph: 18 (8 OS,10 KO)
Bahamdia: 2(2 OS)
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This is where Gryph stamina really came into play, Bahamdia would either get KO or have no stamina left to outspin Gryph with the exception of round 5 and 6 where Gryph scraped or self KO itself

Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs Killerken Dragooon B:D
Gryph: 7 (7 KO)
Dragooon: 13 (9 OS, 4 KO)
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Out spinning Dragooon was basically impossible. Gryph would normally scrape Dragooon only to get KO or OS except for a few rounds if Gryph made the first hit and was close to one of the pockets and by this time my hand was already tired early in the match anyway it seems this combo has the most trouble in anything left spin but still a safe pick for a tournament.

BTW More testing would come soon but i don't have F230,Girago,Wyvang,TB or anything up there.

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This is an interesting combo... BUT Ifraid Bahamdia is a bad sway attacker. I can post tests when I have the time, requests?

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

Test it against a rubber bottom combo

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Signature credit to Leet.o

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

... I don't even know what to say here. That is not specific enough. Should I do Attack, Defense? What?

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

A defence bottom ( RB,CS,RDF etc.) sorry I should have said

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Signature credit to Leet.o

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Threads you should read:

Pony King ? God, can't believe I typed this. I have to put my keyboard in the dishwasher now...

dude are you a gangster

LOL did you asked Midnight to take that pic?

When a monochrome picture is posted on WBO, it doesn't mean that it's always from Midnight.

I wouldn't trust someone with that many Cancer faces.

Well damn.

@[The Supreme One] Soul Baez V145AS

There's nothing else really to do or say except wait for the Superbowl, but I'm only here so I don't get fined.



Time. *gets up and leaves*

We won't have tournaments in the winter. Cause we are not one of those Canadian people where they just go outside like nothing happened to their hands.

i like my coffee like i like my men B)



i don't like coffee

I never have.

*Ginga*.. you're drunk bro... go home.. : )

Tbh SGMS & BDMS are kinda worthless.
MSUV is a far better spent investment; DGMF is even better IMO.

Um what? You're just saying that because you're a dragoon fanboy...

Why would I be suspended????

HMS summarised:




Anything not Tornado Type S:  Wolborg will leave you #rekt




Otherwise:  Go crazy with Ultimate Grip Flat 




For something less cookie-cutter:  Jiraiya sure is sexy

Is Wolborg 2 useless for competitive play?

Extremely useless. 
Now, if you come upon one I'll just PM you my address so you can throw it away. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I wasn't looking for Beyblade Underwear, I swear

Okay, will do when I get home.

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

This is an interesting combo... BUT Ifraid Bahamdia is a bad sway attacker. I can post tests when I have the time, requests?

Yeah I just took anything I saw (still kinda new at this), could you test this againts Duo F230CF?

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Sadly, I don't have F230 at the moment. Anything else? I have two Wyvangs BTW.

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

Sadly, I don't have F230 at the moment. Anything else? I have two Wyvangs BTW.

What about Wyvang ^2 Sway Attacker, i should be able to do more test againts left spin by the end of the day and versues something heavier might give show this combo potential

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Can do that. I'll have tests up by tomorrow.
EDIT: Here they are: Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs MSF Wyvang Wyvang E230GCF
Equipment: Zero-G Attack Stadium Bey Launcher Grip w/ all accessories BeyLauncher R
Gryph Wins(3 SO's, 4 OS's, 3 KO's)
Wyvang Wins (9 SO's, 1 KO)
Gryph Win Percentage: 50%
...eh. This combo is interesting... but gets SO'd like crazy. I'll test against Dragooon tomorrow.

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

Can do that. I'll have tests up by tomorrow.
EDIT: Here they are: Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs MSF Wyvang Wyvang E230GCF
Equipment: Zero-G Attack Stadium Bey Launcher Grip w/ all accessories BeyLauncher R
Gryph Wins(3 SO's, 4 OS's, 3 KO's)
Wyvang Wins (9 SO's, 1 KO)
Gryph Win Percentage: 50%
...eh. This combo is interesting... but gets SO'd like crazy. I'll test against Dragooon tomorrow.

I take it SO means out spin right? The fact it had more KO and SO makes me wonder what the results be if i didn't get SO'd or possibly the fact I used it in a different stadium.

Any way I did some Dragooon test.

Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs Reviser Dragooon SA165GCF[/color]
Equipment: Beylauncher LR with suspension, Zero G Balance type stadium
Gryph Wins(11 KO's)
Dragooon Wins(1 OS,1 KO,7 OS)
Gryph win percentage: 60%

Now this was a little surprising...just like Dragooon B it was impossible to OS Dragooon and can I tell you how many times Dragooon got wall saved?..In order to keep Gryph from SO'd I just launched it dirrectly in the center the same I did with Dragooon.

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SO's mean Sway Outs.

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I am your dog.
Thanks for the sig, Rock kyoya!

I like this!

Meow! asked me about an SA165WSF balance combo in Zero-G a while ago, and it was pretty decent... althought IIRC he used Girago. He liked it a lot.

Anywho, the one thing I would say about this is that uptting such a high-recoil wheel like Gryph on WSF may be the reason its being tossed around so much. :\ MSF-H/L Balro^2 SA165WSF has worked pretty well for me in the past, and it has quite a bit less recoil from my experience...

Finally someone posted a decent Zero-G combo, LOL. I'll try to get some results up ASAP.

Good job.

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I like this!

Meow! asked me about an SA165WSF balance combo in Zero-G a while ago, and it was pretty decent... althought IIRC he used Girago. He liked it a lot.

Anywho, the one thing I would say about this is that uptting such a high-recoil wheel like Gryph on WSF may be the reason its being tossed around so much. :\ MSF-H/L Balro^2 SA165WSF has worked pretty well for me in the past, and it has quite a bit less recoil from my experience...

Finally someone posted a decent Zero-G combo, LOL. I'll try to get some results up ASAP.

Good job.

Thanks! The response really means alot and it would actually be alot of help if more people tested this as their is a little I could do.

I have to agree that Meow! combo possibly could be more effective toward leftspin due to it having much more weight and less recoil then my combo and thats probably what my combo is lacking. Although I find this combo is very decent for a majority part of the meta game but is still no where near top tier and this combo is probably meant for those who dont have another Balro or Girago^2 also that Balro balance out most chromewheels especially Gryph who I believe still has atleast a small shot up there.

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Well, I got some done...

Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs. Duo Cancer B : D
Cancer launched first on all launches.
Gryph: wins, 10/10 (3 SKO, 1 KO, 6 OS)
Cancer: wins, 0/10
Balro Gryph SA165WSF win rate: 100%

I like it pretty well... I think this track-setup really great. Balro Gryph may not be the best Synchrom to use on it, but the concept definitely has potential. I actually like Genbull^2 to be honest. Semi-aggressive combos have a serious advantage in Zero-G because of how hard it is to keep your balance. I've seen RF synchroms OS Duo in Zero-G before LOL. XD

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Been busy for the past few days and now im back with a new test.

Balro Gryph SA165WSF vs Killerken^2 E230SB
Equipment: Zero G Balance type stadium, Beylauncher R,Beylauncher LR with suspension
Gryph: 13(10 OS, 2 KO, 1 SO)
Killerken: 7( 4 OS,1 KO, 2 SO)
Gryph Win percentage: 65.0%

Many of Gryph weak factors did show up at this match (weight and Recoil), If I wasn't careful enough Gryph would of end up SKO'ing itself and I had to focus on its Tornado stall and stamina abilities to win rather forcing it to make contact (certain times if it did end up making contact early at the match then it would end up losing). Thank god often at the end of match Gryph still had enough spin to topple down and scrape Killerken although probably due to its horrid balance.

BTW Bey Test is the Boss! Anyway I'm low on parts.

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