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MF-H Hell Kerbecs 230CS

Jan. 11, 2011  6:41 AM
 
I'm trying to get this as a top tier defense bey. I know 230 dominates any low track in an attack combo so I did the best combo's I can make. Here is my testing:
Standard Equipment

MF-H Hell Kerbecs 230CS vs Lightning L-Drago 100RF
Hell Kerbecs wins 16
Lightning L-Drago wins 4
Draws 2

HK win rate 80%

MF-H Hell Kerbecs 230CS vs MF Lightning L-Drago CH145RF
Hell Kerbecs wins 14
Lightning L-Drago wins 6
Draws 1
HK win rate 70%

MF-H Hell Kerbecs BD145CS (Boost Mode) vs MF Lightning L-Drago 100RF
Hell Kerbecs wins 13
Lightning L-Drago wins 7
Draws 1

HK win rate 65%

dark-Ldrago7531's Testing:

Hell Kerbecs BD145RS (Boost) vs Gravity Perseus 90R2F (Counter Mode, Right Spin)
R2F slighty worn same with the RS
Hell Kerbecs launched first
Standard Set-up
10 Rounds:

Hell Kerbecs: 7 wins (5 KO, 2 OS)
Gravity Perseus: 3 wins (all KO)

HK Win Rate: 70%

Very good win rates to me, it seems that if Hell kerbecs gets in the middle it can take a lot of hits and stay in. It goes to the edge a bit but then goes directly back. Since it's smash attack is very decent it is able to get a good hit or two when using CS and is knocked to the edge when CS goes into attack mode. Please give feedback and I can do any more testing needed.

Thank you
-UnLeAsHeD
Jan. 11, 2011  7:53 AM
 
Yah... since 230 dominates low tracks and you knew it, why didn't you test against high track attackers?
Jan. 11, 2011  7:57 AM
 
Oh I forgot to put that Lightning ldrago ch120rf is on 145 mode, so would that count.
Jan. 11, 2011  9:09 AM
 
Considering 230 is amazing for defence this may not mean much for Hell. Test something like MF-H Hell Kerbecs GB145/BD145(Boost Mode please)CS/RS/RSF. That will definatly prove it's ability for defence.
Jan. 11, 2011  1:32 PM
 
Hmm, how exactly are you shooting your LLD CH120 to get such bad results? Maybe it is the other way around, and this thing is beast compared to other 230 combos. :V
Jan. 11, 2011  3:08 PM
 
Your test is not fair. Obviously when 230 track is used . It will most likely win. As the metal will not be in contact ,especially when lighting l-drago is an attack beyblade
Jan. 11, 2011  3:09 PM
 
That makes no sense? Libruhhh
Jan. 11, 2011  3:30 PM
 
I will use boost mode and GB145 as well after my homework after school. And as it says I used bank shot for LL-Drago.
Jan. 11, 2011  3:51 PM
 
(Jan. 11, 2011  3:09 PM)machipz Wrote: WTF!!
Please add more content to your post.
Jan. 11, 2011  10:19 PM
 
I hope this doesnt post twice... but i updated the op with results from A new test WITHOUT 230. It has a 65% win rate which is still very good when it is up against Lightning L-drago's top tier combo. Do u still want me to do GB145?
Jan. 11, 2011  10:48 PM
 
Cool thanks for doing the testing.
Jan. 12, 2011  12:23 AM
 
(Jan. 11, 2011  10:48 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: Cool thanks for doing the testing.

So are u gonna put it in ur thread?
Jan. 12, 2011  1:19 AM
 
keep checking Akirasdaddy in the wbo he should have it after a whike it is 25$ for him
Jan. 12, 2011  2:23 AM
 
(Jan. 12, 2011  1:19 AM)pegasusrohit Wrote: keep checking Akirasdaddy in the wbo he should have it after a whike it is 25$ for him

This is of no relevance to anything...

If I have to judge purely from these results, I must say it certainly has decent defensive capabilities...
Jan. 14, 2011  4:47 PM
 
Change CS to RS....

Maybe it is meant to work with 230...GB145 Doesn't seem to cut it.
Jan. 14, 2011  5:16 PM
 
(Jan. 14, 2011  4:47 PM)究極のブレーダー Wrote: Change CS to RS....

Maybe it is meant to work with 230...GB145 Doesn't seem to cut it.

I don't have RS. Just RSF which is almost the same thing, believe me if I had it i would
Jan. 14, 2011  9:52 PM
 
(Jan. 14, 2011  5:16 PM)UnLeAsHeD Wrote:
(Jan. 14, 2011  4:47 PM)究極のブレーダー Wrote: Change CS to RS....

Maybe it is meant to work with 230...GB145 Doesn't seem to cut it.

I don't have RS. Just RSF which is almost the same thing, believe me if I had it i would

Even if he does use RS/RSF the results would only get better... It's surprising that LLDrago at CH145 height lost so many times...
Jan. 15, 2011  6:08 AM
 
Put Meteo vs Kerbecs Smile then it shall be
L-Drago - 20 wins
Kerbecs - 0

L-Drago win rate: 100%

( I'm not talking carp I'm just messing with him )
Jan. 15, 2011  2:45 PM
 
(Jan. 15, 2011  6:08 AM)LDragobeast Wrote: Put Meteo vs Kerbecs Smile then it shall be
L-Drago - 20 wins
Kerbecs - 0

L-Drago win rate: 100%

( I'm not talking carp I'm just messing with him )

If ur being serious (which u should be) then Post the combo and I will test it, if not then don't spam this thread please. Thank you
Jan. 15, 2011  2:55 PM
 
Don't you think 230 skews all results? I mean any heavy wheel can achieve good results with 230..
Jan. 16, 2011  1:08 AM
 
(Jan. 15, 2011  2:55 PM)Dan Wrote: Don't you think 230 skews all results? I mean any heavy wheel can achieve good results with 230..

yeah i agree. maybe even dark would win with 230...
Jan. 16, 2011  1:15 AM
 
Test it.
Jan. 17, 2011  9:02 AM
 
Dude, can you test MF Hell kerbecs BD145 RS/CS/EWD(if you have that) and make sure kerbecs is in the thin mode, boost mode i think??? and test it against Top Tier attack wheels.

( Off topic )----->And just to clear things up, which is better for defensive combo, gb145 or bd145?? thank you
Jan. 17, 2011  12:45 PM
 
He has already done some testing of this if you haven't noticed and there are some in the hell thread. Not enough testing has been done to determine which is better.
Jan. 25, 2011  2:14 AM
 
I didn’t want to say anything when this topic had originally first came as I had stumbled across this combo myself and was extremely tempted to use this combo with a slight difference in Metal Face for the recent ‘Bey Fury!’ Tournament. Though I ended up using Flame instead of Hell simply due to Flame having superior Stamina, though Hell is still a great choice.


Due to Hell being similar to Flame in the since that the Attack Wheels are raised from a platform unlike other wheels, using those 2 particular Attack Wheels with 230 whilst pairing them with the already tall CS allows the combo to be just out of reach of a 145 opponent and enables the user to exploit the height of 230 even further. I performed testings before the Tournament in order to identify any weaknesses with using MF - L Hell Bull 230CS against Earth (Mold 1 and 2)/Burn (Mold 1, 2 and Hasbro)/Virgo (4min + Mold) Bull DF145/AD145/145WD, while Hell did suffer from occasional top heaviness due to the weight of Hell for the most part it was able to outspin all those combos with considerable success. It performed considerably well against Defence Types and even Attack Types such as MF Lightning L Drago CH145RF.


Unfortunately I don’t have any formal testings to post since these tests were all conducted informally and I had no intention to post the results as I wanted to keep my combo secret for the Tournament, lol.


Just on a side note I was trying to exploit the height of 230 even further by trying it with such tips as MS and HF/S (Sharp Mode), while those tips did provide increased height which made it even more difficult for 145 based opponent, however during the final stages of the battle using those tips provided the combo with extremely poor balance with the margin for victory decreasing.
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