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Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - imperial reboot - Oct. 25, 2020
I can't decide I think that ultimate reboot is good but apocalypse is not a very good shape. Then you have master diabolos and it's got two sides and it's great it can beat imperial dragon. And everyone thinks that xtreme has good KO ability.What do you think?
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 25, 2020
Generate is the way to go, but ignition’ is godly on apocalypse
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - TheRogueBlader - Oct. 25, 2020
Generate, ultimate reboot if you need a tight spring, I honestly don’t get what people see in extreme dash
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - Logic123ABC - Oct. 25, 2020
Xtreme' is the way to go. Xtreme can have a GREAT spin pattern for KO'ing the opponent, which is especially useful against Keep' combos. Although it can be hard to control for beginners.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - imperial reboot - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 9:02 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Generate is the way to go, but ignition’ is godly on apocalypse
Also what do you think about ignition and evolution
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 9:34 PM)imperial reboot Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 9:02 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: Generate is the way to go, but ignition’ is godly on apocalypse
Also what do you think about ignition and evolution
Ignition is a better fit than evolution imo.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - imperial reboot - Oct. 25, 2020
Evolution is pretty tight on Cho-Z valkyrie
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 9:39 PM)imperial reboot Wrote: Evolution is pretty tight on Cho-Z valkyrie
Well yeah, not like Cho-Z Valkyrie has good teeth or anything.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - imperial reboot - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 9:58 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 9:39 PM)imperial reboot Wrote: Evolution is pretty tight on Cho-Z valkyrie
Well yeah, not like Cho-Z Valkyrie has good teeth or anything.
Sarcastic or no??
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 9:59 PM)imperial reboot Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 9:58 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Well yeah, not like Cho-Z Valkyrie has good teeth or anything.
Sarcastic or no??
Sarcasm. Purely sarcasm.
I do think Xtreme is the best driver out of those listed, but it requires a base level of skill. The other two drivers aren't bad either.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - BuilderROB - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 9:59 PM)imperial reboot Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 9:58 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Well yeah, not like Cho-Z Valkyrie has good teeth or anything.
Sarcastic or no??
Definitely sarcasm. Cho-Z Valkyrie has great teeth.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - imperial reboot - Oct. 25, 2020
I also think that charge is a better alternative to destroy or xtreme.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 10:08 PM)imperial reboot Wrote: I also think that charge is a better alternative to destroy or xtreme.
Pretty sure Charge is just not good, but not garbage. Definitely not an alternative for Destroy or Xtreme.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - imperial reboot - Oct. 25, 2020
It has better lad than both
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 10:12 PM)imperial reboot Wrote: It has better lad than both
Definitely not Destroy, but probably Xtreme.
Never heard of Charge being that competitive even once.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - imperial reboot - Oct. 25, 2020
when people like combos they forget about the hidden gems
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 10:17 PM)imperial reboot Wrote: when people like combos they forget about the hidden gems
Pretty sure it's been tested and it's been failed.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - BladerGem - Oct. 25, 2020
Charge is prone to scraping, it doesn't have nearly as much LAD as Destroy, and isn't as fast/doesn't have as much power behind it as Xtreme does. Charge is probably a B-C tier part; usable, but there's plenty of better alternatives.
RE: Generate,ultimate reboot or xtreme - MagikHorse - Oct. 28, 2020
Agreed.
Ultimate Reboot is a mid-tier part tbh. It's solid in and of itself, but its lack of consistency and early speed hurts it a ton. Decent LAD for what it is though, not that it matters. 100% better than Reboot, with better Stamina and speed. Yes, it has better Stamina. Turns out having smooth rubber is indeed more efficient than super jagged plastic.
Generate is tough to control without practice and really not meant for pure Attack combos as it can't hold a flower pattern at all. It works best as a staller or stallkiller due to its decent Stamina and high speed around the tornado ridge.
Xtreme/Xtreme' is the king of Attack, but it has a high skill cap and requires a sliding shoot to maximize power. If you want pure Burst and KO power, you use Xtreme'. Jolt' sometimes finds its place on Rage/Zwei to increase its Upper Attack potential, but I find it harder to control. Quick' is slightly slower and easier to handle. All of them are otherwise basically interchangeable, though Xtreme' still remains the de facto best in terms of raw Attack power.
And because it's been brought up, no, Charge is not great. It scrapes too much if it stalls, which it will because it can't flower pattern either. It lowers burst resistance unless it's Charge' due to sheer weight. It's too jagged to have good LAD, and suffers poorly as a result. It's pretty bad really, mediocre at best. Destroy' has better Stamina and LAD by a long shot. Would prefer Ultimate Reboot' to this on most scenarios.