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I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Slash Phoenix - Dec. 26, 2019
Hi! You can pretty much tell from the title that I got a Dh. Like I said in my previous thread (here is a link to it) (https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-I-got-Air-Knight-12Expand-Eternal-Championship-Clash-Ver-What-shall-I-do-with-this), then again, it scrapes a lot. Should I trade it? Or mod it? What can I do? Should I even do ANYTHING with it? Plz tell me.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - lilphilyb - Dec. 26, 2019
Keep it the way it is, the turn Frame is top tier in stamina.
You have Revive pheonix? If so, battle Hades against it.
Just dont use it in the Slingshock beystadium! It will scrape like a Shovel Digging up rocks.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - HakaishinLDrago - Dec. 26, 2019
(Dec. 26, 2019 1:09 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Keep it the way it is, the turn Frame is top tier in stamina.
You have Revive pheonix? If so, battle Hades against it.
Just dont use it in the Slingshock beystadium! It will scrape like a Shovel Digging up rocks.
Turn isn't top tier in stamina?
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - BuilderROB - Dec. 26, 2019
(Dec. 26, 2019 1:53 AM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote:(Dec. 26, 2019 1:09 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Keep it the way it is, the turn Frame is top tier in stamina.
You have Revive pheonix? If so, battle Hades against it.
Just dont use it in the Slingshock beystadium! It will scrape like a Shovel Digging up rocks.
Turn isn't top tier in stamina?
For sure it is not. It is great for attack but not for stamina. Star and Cross do that job.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - MagikHorse - Dec. 26, 2019
(Dec. 26, 2019 2:01 AM)BuilderROB Wrote:(Dec. 26, 2019 1:53 AM)HakaishinLDrago Wrote: Turn isn't top tier in stamina?
For sure it is not. It is great for attack but not for stamina. Star and Cross do that job.
I wouldn't even say it's good for Attack. It's plenty heavy, but way too big of a scrape risk for my liking.
Its Stamina is alright until it scrapes (which it will, easily), and that'll totally kill it. It has no use for that sort of combo.
(Dec. 26, 2019 1:09 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Just dont use it in the Slingshock beystadium! It will scrape like a Shovel Digging up rocks.
Somehow this is the only actually sensible line in that whole post.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Shindog - Dec. 26, 2019
-Dread Hades I do not believe is a very good attack layer
-11 I don’t believe is a very good disk
-Turn is one of the better options for bearing combos in opposite spin. It is useful in that way if you don’t have the wall frame.
-zephyr is a good driver to have. Not a must have.
I hope this helps you decided.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - MagikHorse - Dec. 26, 2019
(Dec. 26, 2019 10:18 AM)Shindog Wrote: -Dread Hades I do not believe is a very good attack layer
-11 I don’t believe is a very good disk
-Turn is one of the better options for bearing combos in opposite spin. It is useful in that way if you don’t have the wall frame.
-zephyr is a good driver to have. Not a must have.
I hope this helps you decided.
For Hasbro's line, Dread Hades is actually not too bad on the offensive due to the sheer bulk from its metal aligned with its biggest contact points. This is especially true because Hasbro doesn't seem to have many good Attack focused layers (with some of the stronger options having terrible burst resistance like Xcalius X3). I think Turbo Valtryek overall hits harder, but Hades will do decently well against other Hasbeys.
11 is downright terrible. TT or Hasbro doesn't matter, it just weighs too little to matter.
I think Lift does better than Turn does in the absence of Wall (though I'm not 100% sure on this), so it's got some use maybe, but it's overall still not very good.
Zephyr is good for stalling, but as you said it's not a must-have.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - bestblader12 - Dec. 29, 2019
sell it to some 3 yr old kid for $40
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - bladekid - Jan. 25, 2020
(Dec. 26, 2019 11:46 PM)MagikHorse Wrote:From my testing, H3 seems like the same deal as N3, as it's a stamina attack hybrid. I would not really recommend H3 for pure attack because it's bad at keeping a pattern at lower RPMs so I use something like iron or Zephr for it.(Dec. 26, 2019 10:18 AM)Shindog Wrote: -Dread Hades I do not believe is a very good attack layer
-11 I don’t believe is a very good disk
-Turn is one of the better options for bearing combos in opposite spin. It is useful in that way if you don’t have the wall frame.
-zephyr is a good driver to have. Not a must have.
I hope this helps you decided.
For Hasbro's line, Dread Hades is actually not too bad on the offensive due to the sheer bulk from its metal aligned with its biggest contact points. This is especially true because Hasbro doesn't seem to have many good Attack focused layers (with some of the stronger options having terrible burst resistance like Xcalius X3). I think Turbo Valtryek overall hits harder, but Hades will do decently well against other Hasbeys.
11 is downright terrible. TT or Hasbro doesn't matter, it just weighs too little to matter.
I think Lift does better than Turn does in the absence of Wall (though I'm not 100% sure on this), so it's got some use maybe, but it's overall still not very good.
Zephyr is good for stalling, but as you said it's not a must-have.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Cool beys - Jan. 25, 2020
Oh. What's it about?
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - DeceasedCrab - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 6:39 AM)Cool beys Wrote: Oh. What's it about?
Cool beys Do NOT reply to active threads with gibberish. Don't do this again. Stop posting for a bit okay?
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Cool beys - Jan. 25, 2020
...........ok
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - MagikHorse - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 6:26 AM)bladekid Wrote: From my testing, H3 seems like the same deal as N3, as it's a stamina attack hybrid. I would not really recommend H3 for pure attack because it's bad at keeping a pattern at lower RPMs so I use something like iron or Zephr for it.
Yeah, Khalzar probably hits a bit harder, but Hasbro lacks for solid Attack layers. It's not the best, but it's passable in that field.
I do agree that Zephyr or Iron is better. Hasbro's Iron in particular seems pretty solid tbh.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Armor - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 7:49 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:(Jan. 25, 2020 6:26 AM)bladekid Wrote: From my testing, H3 seems like the same deal as N3, as it's a stamina attack hybrid. I would not really recommend H3 for pure attack because it's bad at keeping a pattern at lower RPMs so I use something like iron or Zephr for it.
Yeah, Khalzar probably hits a bit harder, but Hasbro lacks for solid Attack layers. It's not the best, but it's passable in that field.
I do agree that Zephyr or Iron is better. Hasbro's Iron in particular seems pretty solid tbh.
Although from the N3 testing thread, N3 might actually be better.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - bladekid - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 7:49 AM)MagikHorse Wrote:I think the ones who win out attack wise are tV3, L3, X4, and X3. k3 is more of a defense/anti attack layer imo. Usually, Hn-S and X are better, but yeah, specifically for this bey I do recommend Z and Ir.(Jan. 25, 2020 6:26 AM)bladekid Wrote: From my testing, H3 seems like the same deal as N3, as it's a stamina attack hybrid. I would not really recommend H3 for pure attack because it's bad at keeping a pattern at lower RPMs so I use something like iron or Zephr for it.
Yeah, Khalzar probably hits a bit harder, but Hasbro lacks for solid Attack layers. It's not the best, but it's passable in that field.
I do agree that Zephyr or Iron is better. Hasbro's Iron in particular seems pretty solid tbh.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - MagikHorse - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 5:20 PM)Armor Wrote: Although from the N3 testing thread, N3 might actually be better.
Noctemis N3 does rock, but it feels like mine is incredibly bursty similar to Xcalius X3.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - bladekid - Jan. 25, 2020
(Jan. 25, 2020 5:23 PM)MagikHorse Wrote:Yeah, it's definitely the big problem with it. I use it more as a stamina attack hybrid if anything and I will usually only pick on stamina layer when I use it in the upcoming limited or the Hasbro format(Jan. 25, 2020 5:20 PM)Armor Wrote: Although from the N3 testing thread, N3 might actually be better.
Noctemis N3 does rock, but it feels like mine is incredibly bursty similar to Xcalius X3.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Slash Phoenix - Apr. 01, 2020
(Dec. 26, 2019 10:18 AM)Shindog Wrote: -Dread Hades I do not believe is a very good attack layer
-11 I don’t believe is a very good disk
-Turn is one of the better options for bearing combos in opposite spin. It is useful in that way if you don’t have the wall frame.
-zephyr is a good driver to have. Not a must have.
I hope this helps you decided.
I think Dh which i think is good for attack because of the metal, i agree with 11 sucks 12 rules, i have wall and zephyr is described as a balance driver whereas it is not. SHTAHP LYIN TO US TT!
(Jan. 25, 2020 6:42 AM)Cool beys Wrote: ...........ok
mean
(Apr. 01, 2020 5:50 PM)Slash Phoenix Wrote:(Dec. 26, 2019 10:18 AM)Shindog Wrote: -Dread Hades I do not believe is a very good attack layer
-11 I don’t believe is a very good disk
-Turn is one of the better options for bearing combos in opposite spin. It is useful in that way if you don’t have the wall frame.
-zephyr is a good driver to have. Not a must have.
I hope this helps you decided.
I think Dh which i think is good for attack because of the metal, i agree with 11 sucks 12 rules, i have wall and zephyr is described as a balance driver whereas it is not. SHTAHP LYIN TO US TT!
(Jan. 25, 2020 6:42 AM)Cool beys Wrote: ...........ok
mean oh wait i forgot ur a moderator sorry
(Dec. 26, 2019 1:09 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Keep it the way it is, the turn Frame is top tier in stamina.
You have Revive pheonix? If so, battle Hades against it.
Just dont use it in the Slingshock beystadium! It will scrape like a Shovel Digging up rocks.
sorry dont have it
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - GeneriCringe - Apr. 01, 2020
(Dec. 26, 2019 1:09 AM)lilphilyb Wrote: Keep it the way it is, the turn Frame is top tier in stamina.
You have Revive pheonix? If so, battle Hades against it.
Just dont use it in the Slingshock beystadium! It will scrape like a Shovel Digging up rocks.
Doesn’t everything with a big disc or a frame scrape in the slingshock Beystadium?
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - DeceasedCrab - Apr. 01, 2020
(Apr. 01, 2020 5:50 PM)Slash Phoenix Wrote: meanIf you think a single word reply is a good idea, you are mistaken.
Repeating the mistakes that other people make that they get corrected for in a thread? It's a bad move. Maybe don't. Consider this advance warning and know what will happen next time you do it.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Xtend+ - Apr. 01, 2020
(Dec. 26, 2019 12:52 AM)Slash Phoenix Wrote: Hi! You can pretty much tell from the title that I got a Dh. Like I said in my previous thread (here is a link to it) (https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-I-got-Air-Knight-12Expand-Eternal-Championship-Clash-Ver-What-shall-I-do-with-this), then again, it scrapes a lot. Should I trade it? Or mod it? What can I do? Should I even do ANYTHING with it? Plz tell me.
I'd recommend this combo Revive Pheonix.10.Zephyr
(Apr. 01, 2020 6:34 PM)Xtend+ Wrote:(Dec. 26, 2019 12:52 AM)Slash Phoenix Wrote: Hi! You can pretty much tell from the title that I got a Dh. Like I said in my previous thread (here is a link to it) (https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-I-got-Air-Knight-12Expand-Eternal-Championship-Clash-Ver-What-shall-I-do-with-this), then again, it scrapes a lot. Should I trade it? Or mod it? What can I do? Should I even do ANYTHING with it? Plz tell me.
I'd recommend this combo Revive Pheonix.10.Zephyr
POM plastic isn't the best in stamina. And plus! It stalls so who cares lmao.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - heroalexander05 - Apr. 01, 2020
(Dec. 29, 2019 11:41 PM)bestblader12 Wrote: sell it to some 3 yr old kid for $40
lol dude thats something my friends would do
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Armor - Apr. 02, 2020
I think this would pretty much be an upgrade to N3 in stamina, with maybe slightly reduced KO attack. I want to see if this has any use on something like Atomic for same spin.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Atlas Requiem - Apr. 02, 2020
Maybe use it on an Attack/Stamina hybrid combo. A good idea would be Hades H3.10C.Ir
Or something like that. I really think the layer has potential among Hasbro releases.
RE: I got Dread Hades 11Turn Zephyr! What should I do with this little scraper? - Armor - Apr. 02, 2020
(Apr. 02, 2020 2:45 AM)Atlas Requiem Wrote: Maybe use it on an Attack/Stamina hybrid combo. A good idea would be Hades H3.10C.Ir
Or something like that. I really think the layer has potential among Hasbro releases.
I would agree. Maybe try using something like Bump instead, Cross is kind of meaningless since all opposite spin combos are practically guaranteed to win, unless it's something like an nL X/Hn combo.