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Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - Shindog - Feb. 18, 2022 Over the past few months, the WBO Community has come together to work openly in the forums, and the WBO Discord, on a Burst format centered around the BeyBlade Burst GT era. The experimental format is temporarily named Burst GT Format (BGT). This format is now available for Organizers to host unranked experimental events. We are looking for tournaments data to provide development feedback to help perfect the ruleset. About Burst GT Format (BGT) Due to the large power-creep caused by Super King/Sparking and Dynamite Battle releases, GT and most of Cho Z Layer releases have lost their place within any format the WBO offers. The large weight difference mean that these releases simply cannot compete in the Burst Standard Format. So we're trying to give them a place that they can be used again. Many players have these parts laying around somewhere completely unusable in competitive play. A lot of relevant parts are currently easily accessible due to the contemporary Hasbro Pro Series releases. There is no time like the present to experiment with this format. But this won't just simply be a predictable repeat of the GT meta. The MFB remakes and some early Super King/Sparking layers are being put into the mix. Plus, all drivers release to date will be legal in this format, which spices up the metagame. But this ruleset isn't perfect yet, and we need the help from the community to perfect it. We're looking for experimental tournaments to be hosted using this ruleset to provide us with competitive event data to base decisions on, as well as feedback and discussion on what the community thinks about the rules in place. So what are you waiting for? Come help us make the best ruleset we can for Burst GT Format! Rule Overview (version 1.0) During the Experimental testing period, all events using this format will be unranked. Bans: Layers
Forge Discs
Chassis
Experimental Period Notes
For Organizers: Burst GT Format – Event Description Template (Click to View) Change Log Event Archive 1) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Shin-LA-Burst-GT-format-2-26-22--103454 2) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-FOREVER-BEYS-Burst-GT-Format--103577 3) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Burst-GT-Format-JUDGEMENT--103766 4) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Do-you-miss-GT--103777 5) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Rise-of-GT-Zwei 6) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Curse-Glides-towards-Judgement-Day-Burst-GT-Format--104017 https://beybase.com/beyblade-burst-gt-format-tournament-report/ (Tournament report on Beybase) 7) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Silver-Springs-Reminisce-About-GT--104280 8) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-TIER-ZERO--104562?pid=1823759#pid1823759 9) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Beyblade-Midwest-GT-The-Judgement-of-Pegasus 10) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-BEYBLADE-NORTH-2022-Friday-–-Burst-GT-Format--103927 11) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Nock-Em-Out-BGT-Pro-Stadium-Experimental--104890 12) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Just-Sign-Up--104753 13) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Time-to-get-serious-London-Burst-GT-Format--105141 14) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-PROJECT-BEYHEM-5-0-Burst-GT-Format 15) https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Back-In-Time…-To-GT Feedback? If you have any feedback on Burst GT Format, or any questions or suggestions for further adjustments or additions, please post your thoughts below or in the Burst GT WBO Discord channel which will be added shortly. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - th!nk - Feb. 18, 2022 YES YES YES YES. Having played around with this format a bunch I am super excited for it. It's such a broad format, melding a lot of attributes of standard with a much, much more aggressive and less safe landscape. Easily one of my favourite formats. I have made some notes on the various layers I see as having a significant place in the format. I posted this in the EOI thread but will quote it here for reference to those looking at this format. I know some have said the format may be narrow, but if you look at this list you can probably see how much depth actually lurks beneath the surface of this format. I've done brief testing on the superking layers but the notes are even briefer so I'm gonna leave em out but will update as I test stuff out, in case anyone is interested in my ramblings. I am concerned about Curse, as I felt it was just too much defensively to allow the format's aggression to keep LAD in check. However, I would also say I really do think Brave is probably fine in the format, it doesn't really do anything in any worthwhile way even in GT, I'm surprised it was left out. (Nov. 09, 2021 10:20 AM)th!nk Wrote: In response to the comments about a limited number of layers seeing use, there will always be favourites, but here are the layers I would consider solidly top tier: RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - p0l1w4g06 - Feb. 18, 2022 Great, now I have to dig through my drafts and update them accordingly. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - th!nk - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 8:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: Great, now I have to dig through my drafts and update them accordingly. This is still an experimental format, you do not need to make changes to your drafts regarding this at the moment. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - GreenGale2000 - Feb. 18, 2022 I got back into Beyblade right when GT was winding down, and just before SK started, so I ended up with a bunch of good GT-Era parts that were quickly outclassed. So let me just say, seeing this come back as an experimental format makes me super happy. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - p0l1w4g06 - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 9:41 AM)th!nk Wrote:Ok, (off topic warning) but do you know how to get my drafts approved? I have so many, and none of them are green lighted(The drafts are the reason I joined in the first place)(Feb. 18, 2022 8:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: Great, now I have to dig through my drafts and update them accordingly. (Back on topic) its a shame Archer Hercules is my only good part for this still in good shape. Salamander’s mode change is broken (locking mechanism), Judgement and Zwei are worn down(zwei is even gone), my only GT bases are Erase and Slash (which are doo doo as they are not the one you listed). RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - g2_ - Feb. 18, 2022 Did you seriously ban Brave Valkyrie and allow Super Hyperion? RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - p0l1w4g06 - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 11:27 AM)g2_ Wrote: Did you seriously ban Brave Valkyrie and allow Super Hyperion?I think becuz Brave is too good at right spin attack, Super was able to coexist with Judgement according to the article on the wiki, so it’s more balanced. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - th!nk - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 11:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote:(Feb. 18, 2022 11:27 AM)g2_ Wrote: Did you seriously ban Brave Valkyrie and allow Super Hyperion?I think becuz Brave is too good at right spin attack, Super was able to coexist with Judgement according to the article on the wiki, so it’s more balanced. Super was being used on a double chassis for that (and even then I don't think it's nearly as good as Judgment). Brave is inert, I am pretty sure I would pick Super over it even with only single chassis. As for your drafts, it has been a while since I oversaw any part of what was then BeyWiki, but articles are only accepted when well-thought out and referenced, and you generally want to have the part, or work very closely with multiple people who do, to get it accepted. My suggestion for you personally would be to work with a part that you have and can test as a single draft, focus on making one really excellent draft that covers all aspects of it, is checked and referenced based on testing and discussion. Do that instead of making a bunch of patchy ones, and go from there. It is not a race, but be the tortoise and not the hare. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - creeperlean11 - Feb. 18, 2022 This is amazing! RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - p0l1w4g06 - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 12:08 PM)th!nk Wrote:Ok, of my drafts I have (which I will leave there for further discussion, hence making them in the first place), I only have World, Savior, 2B, 2S, Prominence, dangerous, Almight, Belial 2, Phoenix, Perseus, Bearing', Rage, 3A....(Feb. 18, 2022 11:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think becuz Brave is too good at right spin attack, Super was able to coexist with Judgement according to the article on the wiki, so it’s more balanced. And I don’t have really competitive parts such as Xtreme', another Bearing’ etc. For sufficient testing. I don’t get to collect many stuff, hence my articles doo doo..... Though I’ve taken Kei’s reviews more into account when writing them nowadays. Most of my drafts are also unfortunately devoid of comments (sad), only people starring them (that are not me, I’m not a narcissist’ RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - BuilderROB - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 11:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote:(Feb. 18, 2022 11:27 AM)g2_ Wrote: Did you seriously ban Brave Valkyrie and allow Super Hyperion?I think becuz Brave is too good at right spin attack, Super was able to coexist with Judgement according to the article on the wiki, so it’s more balanced. Brave’s right spin attack is bad honestly, it’s only thing it was good at was stamina, and even then it was outclassed. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - SunBlader98 - Feb. 18, 2022 Pretty excited about this. High Xtend+' and Bearing' is definitely gonna show play. The Power Creep between SuperKing and DynamiteBattle was really big No joke. Here are some combos I think should do great in this format: Naked Longinus Paradox Metal Drift Goku Glide LuciferII 00 Expand Destroy'/Metal Destroy 1S Turbo Spryzen 00 Wall/Rachet(TT) Bearing Master Spriggan Sting Bearing'/Zone+Z' Zwei Diabolos Drake Xceed+Z' Union Diabolos Sting Metal Xtreme (LC)Perfect Pheonix Sting High Xtend+' And Now The Kings Of Kings (Meme Alert) Wizard Spriggan Blitz Metal Xtreme Goku Go Brrrrrrrrrrrrr RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - Friedpasta - Feb. 18, 2022 I’m very excited about this format. It’s got a lot of variety and a good attack launch will beat just about everything. There were also a lot of parts that got overlooked or not enough time to shine, such as Tact, Knockout, Lightning L-Drago, etc. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - The Blacknight - Feb. 18, 2022 I'm surprised there aren't any banned drivers. But it's really fine. ngl the thing im most excited for is the fact that Hasbro is back in the meta. Yay. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - g2_ - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 1:45 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:Bad? Absolutely not. It was incredible, but still outclassed by Judgement.(Feb. 18, 2022 11:38 AM)p0l1w4g06 Wrote: I think becuz Brave is too good at right spin attack, Super was able to coexist with Judgement according to the article on the wiki, so it’s more balanced. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - TheRogueBlader - Feb. 18, 2022 This is great! BGT let’s gooooo! I know alot of people are probably thinking, “what!? You didn’t ban any drivers?” Or” what!? You didn’t ban any dynamite battle discs or wheel!?” But this is experimental for a reason. And let’s be honest, when this format’s experimental stage is over with we will undoubtedly have most DB discs and wheel (maybe not wheel) along with some drivers out of the mix. In my opinion GT was, and now even more so due to new parts, the most versatile format. There’s just so many parts that could be used and here’s to hoping it becomes ranked! To BGT everyone! (Also you should probably add the chips that are banned for the superking bases, I know it’s experimental but I mean someone using glide solomon destroy’ 2A just doesn’t bode well with me) RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - Skynet - Feb. 18, 2022 AWWWWW YISSS!! As a newcomer, I only have GT beys!!!! RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - Mexicantwix - Feb. 18, 2022 Adding on some Sparking Layers seems interesting enough, im more intrigued on how that'll play out RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - DeltaZakuro - Feb. 18, 2022 I wanna try and finally go to tournaments by 2024-2025 and i think this new format sounds awesome on its own. Im thinking of running the following combos Judgement Diabolos1.Blitz.Venture+V Lord Spriggan.0Cross.Never Zwei Bahamut.Sting.Xceed' Goku Super Hyperion2.Blitz.Destroy'.1D Perfect Phoenix.Outer.Bearing' RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - th!nk - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 4:13 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: This is great! BGT let’s gooooo! I know alot of people are probably thinking, “what!? You didn’t ban any drivers?” Or” what!? You didn’t ban any dynamite battle discs or wheel!?” But this is experimental for a reason. And let’s be honest, when this format’s experimental stage is over with we will undoubtedly have most DB discs and wheel (maybe not wheel) along with some drivers out of the mix. In my opinion GT was, and now even more so due to new parts, the most versatile format. There’s just so many parts that could be used and here’s to hoping it becomes ranked! To BGT everyone! DB and SK discs are banned. Imo there aren't any drivers which need to be banned (if anything, it would only be because something like Curse turns out to be too strong). I would prefer not having any chips with rubber or metal around, personally, but I guess we'll see ☺️ RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - BuilderROB - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 4:02 PM)g2_ Wrote:(Feb. 18, 2022 1:45 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Brave’s right spin attack is bad honestly, it’s only thing it was good at was stamina, and even then it was outclassed.Bad? Absolutely not. It was incredible, but still outclassed by Judgement. Nah, the only thing that gave it any attack potential was 2S, and even then it struggled hard (I tested for it back then, it just wasn’t very good for attack). Ask anyone from the sparking era and they’ll tell you. It’s best use was it on Xtend+ 2A back then, and eventually it stopped seeing use as well. Edit: I went back to check my testing, and I still stand by my statement that brave’s attack wasn’t very good. It worked best on mixed attack/stamina setups such as Xtend+ 2A. RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - TheRogueBlader - Feb. 18, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 4:47 PM)th!nk Wrote:Oh! Sorry I read that wrong. My mistake. And yeah it’s be best if just the normal SK chips were allowed. Without rubber or metal, or MCCs.(Feb. 18, 2022 4:13 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: This is great! BGT let’s gooooo! I know alot of people are probably thinking, “what!? You didn’t ban any drivers?” Or” what!? You didn’t ban any dynamite battle discs or wheel!?” But this is experimental for a reason. And let’s be honest, when this format’s experimental stage is over with we will undoubtedly have most DB discs and wheel (maybe not wheel) along with some drivers out of the mix. In my opinion GT was, and now even more so due to new parts, the most versatile format. There’s just so many parts that could be used and here’s to hoping it becomes ranked! To BGT everyone! RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - Cindercast - Feb. 18, 2022 Most definitely excited for this one. I'm surprised Infinite Speed wasn't added onto the Sparking Ring whitelist although I doubt that it would have any use. Looking forward to the 26th to finally test this format out RE: Burst GT Format (BGT) Experimental Period Announcement and Discussion - SunBlader98 - Feb. 19, 2022 (Feb. 18, 2022 4:45 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: I wanna try and finally go to tournaments by 2024-2025 and i think this new format sounds awesome on its own. *Sting and Around exist* My dude uses Outer. |