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RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Cake - Jul. 27, 2012
HOLY BLADER SPIRIT!
I was not expecting that. So Kries may be useful, after all...
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Anchor - Jul. 27, 2012
Im so getting a Kreis Cygnus now! Can someone test if Kreis is any good with GB145?
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Bobmcdoogal - Jul. 27, 2012
Finally, Kreis ins't useless afterall and before Kreis Cygnus 145WD was only usefull for the Cygnus Energy Ring and the Wide Defence Performance, now it has Anti-Attack potential!
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Byerg - Jul. 27, 2012
Before everybody starts buying it, I'd like to see if I'm not the only person getting these results.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Anchor - Jul. 27, 2012
I always suspected that Kreis would be good. I've seen many videos on youtube where a stock Kreis Cygnus would KO beys like Diablo would.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - th!nk - Jul. 27, 2012
PS: A combination beating a single very good combination is nice but it only makes it qualify for "niche" status unless it also beats other things.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - zionson - Jul. 27, 2012
I know you said we shouldn't suggest other attack types, but since I expect to see this combo at our tournament this Sunday, I'll probably field an attack bey just to see it in action. I've got all the parts of this one (tons of W145s, thank you TT for those Ifraid recolors) so I might do a few tests Saturday night when I free up just to see how wise that decision is. Haha
If this works as well as the tests indicate it does, I'll see more than a few of these and people shying away from Stamina and Defense (fist pump). I hope you're right.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Primal - Jul. 27, 2012
(Jul. 27, 2012 1:55 AM)Zancrow Wrote: Before everybody starts buying it, I'd like to see if I'm not the only person getting these results.
No need to worry.
I did some testing (though, since I don't have W145, I tested against AD145), and the results are almost exactly similar to yours:MF-L Flash Orion AD145MF vs Kreis Cygnus (for a little more stamina than Bull) BD145R2F
Spoiler (Click to View)
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Anchor - Jul. 27, 2012
Looks like Kreis is good. Thanks for the testing, Primal.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Coach - Jul. 27, 2012
This is great, but still hesitant. Kries is my favorite looking wheel bar none but I always assumed it was worthless but it looks good in a display. I think Zancrow or Primal need to start a testing thread for it!
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Primal - Jul. 27, 2012
@Shaman-R: The tests don't necessarily mean that Kreis is a good part. Like others have said, just because Kreis is a counter to this one combo doesn't mean we'd be advocating it for top-tier status.
If what you were trying to say is that Kreis is a good part to beat this combo with, then sorry, haha.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Anchor - Jul. 28, 2012
(Jul. 27, 2012 10:21 PM)Primal Wrote: @Shaman-R: The tests don't necessarily mean that Kreis is a good part. Like others have said, just because Kreis is a counter to this one combo doesn't mean we'd be advocating it for top-tier status.
If what you were trying to say is that Kreis is a good part to beat this combo with, then sorry, haha.
That is what I meant,haha. But, could you or anyone test Kreis GB145R2F/RF?
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Byerg - Jul. 28, 2012
I can.
Against this combo, I'm guessing?
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - SoulEater57 - Jul. 28, 2012
(Jul. 28, 2012 3:31 AM)Zancrow Wrote: Against this combo, I'm guessing?
Yes. herp-derp.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Byerg - Jul. 28, 2012
Please refrain from using things like that.
This is the internet, you can't read minds, and the question wasn't directed towards you, so yeah
I'll see if I can get some tests done tomorrow, before or after Primal's tournament. Heck, maybe even at it to make the results more accurate (I know Ingulit will be looking to prove this combo's bawsness even more tomorrow ;D).
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Anchor - Jul. 28, 2012
(Jul. 28, 2012 3:37 AM)Zancrow Wrote: Please refrain from using things like that.
This is the internet, you can't read minds, and the question wasn't directed towards you, so yeah
I'll see if I can get some tests done tomorrow, before or after Primal's tournament. Heck, maybe even at it to make the results more accurate (I know Ingulit will be looking to prove this combo's bawsness even more tomorrow ;D).
Yeah, against the Flash Orion.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - SoulEater57 - Jul. 28, 2012
(Jul. 28, 2012 3:37 AM)Zancrow Wrote: Please refrain from using things like that.
This is the internet, you can't read minds, and the question wasn't directed towards you, so yeah
I'll see if I can get some tests done tomorrow, before or after Primal's tournament. Heck, maybe even at it to make the results more accurate (I know Ingulit will be looking to prove this combo's bawsness even more tomorrow ;D).
TOLD YOU booom! wuuuuuuuuuuut? i just proofed you WRONG! I can read minds!
Anyways, I shall buy all of the parts with this combo and pwn everyone. This can OS E230 combos, correct?
EDIT Sorry Hazel.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - slyx - Jul. 28, 2012
sorry, just to clarify. kreis is in defense (free rotating 60 degrees) mode? seems to make it wobble lots after being hit.. but perhaps that helps it to generated the momentum needed to ko attack combos?
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Byerg - Jul. 28, 2012
(Jul. 28, 2012 3:56 AM)TysonIsDaBest Wrote: TOLD YOU booom! wuuuuuuuuuuut? i just proofed you WRONG! I can read minds!
Anyways, I shall buy all of the parts with this combo and pwn everyone. This can OS E230 combos, correct?
I never said you were wrong, so yeah, still wasn't directed towards you
And, as has been seen, you won't be pwning anybody using Anti-Attack anytime soon. Look in the OP for your question, though it doesn't show much about OSing E230CS.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Blader ZX - May. 05, 2017
I think the Diablo metal / fusion wheel with a middle heighted spin track and a rubber attack type performance tip / bottom will do the job got you. My example :- MF Diablo Pisces T125R2F (this is what I use).
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Cake - May. 05, 2017
(May. 05, 2017 6:27 PM)Blader ZX Wrote: I think the Diablo metal / fusion wheel with a middle heighted spin track and a rubber attack type performance tip / bottom will do the job got you. My example :- MF Diablo Pisces T125R2F (this is what I use).
Note the date on the posts in this thread, haha. It's 5 years old, and Diablo has already been tested (and found to work fairly well) against this Flash combo.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Yblader1 - May. 05, 2017
Anything with duo perhaps lol. I mean a short bey with duo might work. Or even death or diablo.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - FIREFIRE CPB - May. 06, 2017
(May. 05, 2017 9:11 PM)Yblader1 Wrote: Anything with duo perhaps lol. I mean a short bey with duo might work. Or even death or diablo.
Thats true. I'm pretty sure something heavy and low recoil with RF tip can beat it. Maybe Basalt BD145RF of it's time or my Anti Attacker which is Duo 85RF.
BTW guys please don't nacro old threads
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - Blader ZX - Jul. 02, 2017
If you use Diablo with BD145RF or MF with a Metal Face (optional) and launch it not in flower pattern, then it might be able to knock Flash W145MF out of the stadium. Or, try the direct defensive way, Zirago Dragoon BD145RDF or Kraken Genbu E230TB (TB is also good, but you can try MB, CS etc). These defensive types are too heavy to knock out.
RE: MF-H Flash Orion W145MF (Help me beat this) - CyberKerbeus GT - Aug. 25, 2017
(Jul. 02, 2017 11:13 AM)Blader ZX Wrote: If you use Diablo with BD145RF or MF with a Metal Face (optional) and launch it not in flower pattern, then it might be able to knock Flash W145MF out of the stadium. Or, try the direct defensive way, Zirago Dragoon BD145RDF or Kraken Genbu E230TB (TB is also good, but you can try MB, CS etc). These defensive types are too heavy to knock out.
(Aug. 25, 2017 5:32 PM)CyberKerbeus GT Wrote:(Jul. 02, 2017 11:13 AM)Blader ZX Wrote: If you use Diablo with BD145RF or MF with a Metal Face (optional) and launch it not in flower pattern, then it might be able to knock Flash W145MF out of the stadium. Or, try the direct defensive way, Zirago Dragoon BD145RD
Kraken Genbu E230TB (TB is also good, but you can try MB, CS etc). These defensive types are too heavy to knock out.