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RE: To Rethink Stamina - othellog - Oct. 29, 2011
Btw Control_ if you have Virgo(Pre-HWS), then can you post or pm me your spin time on Virgo DF145BS, just for comparison.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Mc Frown - Oct. 29, 2011
2nd gen of Hasbro faces (not from the first wave of products and before legend series) > MF-L
test that jank
if no one has ill do it later
RE: To Rethink Stamina - ControL_ - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 10:35 PM)othellog Wrote: Btw Control_ if you have Virgo(Pre-HWS), then can you post or pm me your spin time on Virgo DF145BS, just for comparison.I do not. My Burn Bull time isn't even as good as TylerPT's one.
I don't think you need to compare with my time, but really all those on that thread? Try and match those?
Daegor42 uses Burn DF145B, Bull>Cancer there too.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - othellog - Oct. 29, 2011
Your right, I just retested it and my results are very close to yours...
I don't think that the surface that the stadium is on would effect spin time. I did it on on a wood floor today, and carpet the days I did the testing. But, I know for a fact that this theory is true for basalt. I'm going to redo the Earth and Basalt tests soon.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - ControL_ - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 10:47 PM)othellog Wrote: Your right, I just retested it and my results are very close to yours...You are kidding.
I don't think that the surface that the stadium is on would effect spin time. I did it on on a wood floor today, and carpet the days I did the testing. But, I know for a fact that this theory is true for basalt. I'm going to redo the Earth and Basalt tests soon.
No way in hell you would make a thread, with half of it depending on these solo spin times and the weight distribution of these clear wheels, whilst you have performed these tests on....
carpet.
wooden flooring.
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tbh I don't believe that, how else would you get a 3 minute solo spin time on carpet. Then your Burn Cancer spin time is extremely close to mine, which were supposedly done on carpet, how does carpet mirror the times of a TT attack stadium?
RE: To Rethink Stamina - othellog - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 10:56 PM)ControL_ Wrote:I really don't know man...(Oct. 29, 2011 10:47 PM)othellog Wrote: Your right, I just retested it and my results are very close to yours...You are kidding.
I don't think that the surface that the stadium is on would effect spin time. I did it on on a wood floor today, and carpet the days I did the testing. But, I know for a fact that this theory is true for basalt. I'm going to redo the Earth and Basalt tests soon.
No way in hell you would make a thread, with half of it depending on these solo spin times and the weight distribution of these clear wheels, whilst you have performed these tests on....
carpet.
wooden flooring.
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tbh I don't believe that, how else would you get a 3 minute solo spin time on carpet. Then your Burn Cancer spin time is extremely close to mine, which were supposedly done on carpet, how does carpet mirror the times of a TT attack stadium?
I really did get those spin times three days ago. But some how its not the same. I'm not making a excuse by saying that I tested on two different surfaces, I was just stating it.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Arupaeo - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 10:56 PM)ControL_ Wrote:(Oct. 29, 2011 10:47 PM)othellog Wrote: Your right, I just retested it and my results are very close to yours...You are kidding.
I don't think that the surface that the stadium is on would effect spin time. I did it on on a wood floor today, and carpet the days I did the testing. But, I know for a fact that this theory is true for basalt. I'm going to redo the Earth and Basalt tests soon.
No way in hell you would make a thread, with half of it depending on these solo spin times and the weight distribution of these clear wheels, whilst you have performed these tests on....
carpet.
wooden flooring.
--
tbh I don't believe that, how else would you get a 3 minute solo spin time on carpet. Then your Burn Cancer spin time is extremely close to mine, which were supposedly done on carpet, how does carpet mirror the times of a TT attack stadium?
The way I read that post, the stadium was first placed on carpet, and then the stadium was placed on wooden flooring.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - othellog - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 11:08 PM)Arupaeo Wrote:Control_ that was what I meant....(Oct. 29, 2011 10:56 PM)ControL_ Wrote:(Oct. 29, 2011 10:47 PM)othellog Wrote: Your right, I just retested it and my results are very close to yours...You are kidding.
I don't think that the surface that the stadium is on would effect spin time. I did it on on a wood floor today, and carpet the days I did the testing. But, I know for a fact that this theory is true for basalt. I'm going to redo the Earth and Basalt tests soon.
No way in hell you would make a thread, with half of it depending on these solo spin times and the weight distribution of these clear wheels, whilst you have performed these tests on....
carpet.
wooden flooring.
--
tbh I don't believe that, how else would you get a 3 minute solo spin time on carpet. Then your Burn Cancer spin time is extremely close to mine, which were supposedly done on carpet, how does carpet mirror the times of a TT attack stadium?
The way I read that post, the stadium was first placed on carpet, and then the stadium was placed on wooden flooring.
You think some like me would actually spin my beys on the floor....
RE: To Rethink Stamina - ControL_ - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 10:59 PM)othellog Wrote:I don't understand.(Oct. 29, 2011 10:56 PM)ControL_ Wrote:I really don't know man...(Oct. 29, 2011 10:47 PM)othellog Wrote: Your right, I just retested it and my results are very close to yours...You are kidding.
I don't think that the surface that the stadium is on would effect spin time. I did it on on a wood floor today, and carpet the days I did the testing. But, I know for a fact that this theory is true for basalt. I'm going to redo the Earth and Basalt tests soon.
No way in hell you would make a thread, with half of it depending on these solo spin times and the weight distribution of these clear wheels, whilst you have performed these tests on....
carpet.
wooden flooring.
--
tbh I don't believe that, how else would you get a 3 minute solo spin time on carpet. Then your Burn Cancer spin time is extremely close to mine, which were supposedly done on carpet, how does carpet mirror the times of a TT attack stadium?
I really did get those spin times three days ago. But some how its not the same. I'm not making a excuse by saying that I tested on two different surfaces, I was just stating it.
It would make no difference, there is no beyblade battle going on to shake the stadium. I do some of my tests on wooden flooring. (The ones given were on flooring)
ED: We know the flooring makes no difference, since the Cancer time is still the same both ways. Therefore it must be something other than the "surface" which doesn't move anyway...
RE: To Rethink Stamina - othellog - Oct. 29, 2011
I don't either man...
I'll just keep doing tests, and try different techniques to figure out what I did wrong the first time.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Dan - Oct. 29, 2011
You used the exact same parts for each set of tests, right? (obviously you changed CW but the other parts remained the same, right?)
RE: To Rethink Stamina - othellog - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 11:27 PM)Dan Wrote: You used the exact same parts for each set of tests, right? (obviously you changed CW but the other parts remained the same, right?)Ya Dan I'm pretty sure. I diffidently used the same 145, and the same WD. But, in case I didn't use the same parts I'm going to do different spin times on with all of my WD's.
Oh, I didn't use the same MF-L, one is from a different set... (carp, I mean MF-F right. Feather is all plastic... If so I'll have to change the OP.)
Great thinking,
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Dan - Oct. 29, 2011
Whenever in doubt, never hold assumptions: look everywhere for the most minute and improbable changes
RE: To Rethink Stamina - othellog - Oct. 29, 2011
(Oct. 29, 2011 11:38 PM)Dan Wrote: Whenever in doubt, never hold assumptions: look everywhere for the most minute and improbable changesLol, you sound like my health teacher.
But, I completely agree, I should have been more thoughtful.
Basically Control_, if you think about it, this thread revolves around the mechanics of a bey.
So, essentially, it doesn't focus on battle that much.(yet) I wanted to explain how different parts of the bey affected the amount of time a bey could spin.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Kai-V - Oct. 30, 2011
Perhaps I am just "boring", but customising just for solo spins should get boring for everyone after a while, and this is the Beyblade Customizations forum.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Shabalabadoo - Oct. 30, 2011
Well I don't think the intention of this thread is solo spin times. othellog just used solo spin times as a primary method for testing his theory about the weight distribution in order to reduce the variables.
The idea would of course take a step beyond that into actual battles later on, but first it needs to be discussed how this idea can be maximized.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Bleik - Oct. 30, 2011
I did some tests:
BB-10 used. Hasbro Silver Grip, BB-115 Beylauncher LR for both beys.
MF-F Burn Bull 145D = 4:28 Minutes on average of 3 tests
MF-F Burn Kronos 145D = 5.35 Minutes on average of 3 tests
I was shocked myself with the results.
Burn, Bull, Kronos, 145 and MF-F are Takara-Tomy. D is Hasbro. 145 from Sonokong UW145
Next I will do tests on left spin wheels
RE: To Rethink Stamina - th!nk - Oct. 30, 2011
Average of 3 tests?
Nice sample size bro.
Anyway, still on the "solo spin times aren't even a good measure" thing here so w/e.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Glowfire1 - Nov. 01, 2011
(Oct. 30, 2011 1:10 PM)Shadow Scythe Wrote: I did some tests:
BB-10 used. Hasbro Silver Grip, BB-115 Beylauncher LR for both beys.
MF-F Burn Bull 145D = 4:28 Minutes on average of 3 tests
MF-F Burn Kronos 145D = 5.35 Minutes on average of 3 tests
I was shocked myself with the results.
Burn, Bull, Kronos, 145 and MF-F are Takara-Tomy. D is Hasbro. 145 from Sonokong UW145
Next I will do tests on left spin wheels
jo, thatßs right why so much people don´t understand that bull is not the best ? it´s not so balanced how kronos or other.
yeah that´s solo spin times I know but over 1 minute more that makes a big differnce in the fight.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Kai-V - Nov. 01, 2011
(Nov. 01, 2011 2:30 PM)Glowfire1 Wrote: that makes a big differnce in the fight.
You have proof ?
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Xlr8 - Nov. 01, 2011
wow dude i thought about it but didn't gone into details its really true thanks for the test man
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Glowfire1 - Nov. 01, 2011
(Nov. 01, 2011 2:39 PM)Kai-V Wrote:yeah now I have proof but at first I proofed if this time of 5:34 and 4:25 was right and by me it was a little bit diefferent:(Nov. 01, 2011 2:30 PM)Glowfire1 Wrote: that makes a big differnce in the fight.
You have proof ?
BB-10, Right Launcher 2, Normal Starting,
solo spin time:
MF-F Burn Bull 145D - 4:27
MF-F Burn Kronos 145D - 4:39
You see it´s not so extremly, you must excuse me for my first answer
now the test results in battles
MF-F Burn Bull 145D vs MF-F Burn Kronos 145D
Burn Bull - 5/20 (4 OS, 1 KO)
Burn Kronos - 15/20 (13 OS, 2 KO)
Test 2
MF-F Burn Bull 145D vs Scythe Aquario 100WD(stamina mode)
Burn Bull - 3/20 (2 OS, 1 KO)
Scythe Aquario - 17/20 (14 Os, 3 KO)
Burn bulls best afterspinningtime - best was 4 seconds
MF-F Burn Kronos 145D vs Scythe Aquario 100 WD(stamina mode)
Burn Kronos - 6/20 (OS)
Scythe Aquario - 14/20 (12 OS, 2 KO )
Burn Kronos best afterspinning time : best was 9 seconds
you see it is a little bit better, some seconds make difference, but most of time they are as good as the other, but you should see that you´re getting the right wheel and bull is not every time the best
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Mr. N - Nov. 01, 2011
Did you switch Ds for the first test?
RE: To Rethink Stamina - BeyHyperK!LLeR - Nov. 01, 2011
Honestly, i think them results are made up. Mainly because there is hardly any weight difference between clear wheels so in a Kronos VS Bull, one on one battle, Kronos wouldn't beat bull that badly. If they are not made up, then there is obviously a difference in D's. Two MINT D's would be a fair test.
RE: To Rethink Stamina - Bleik - Nov. 01, 2011
More Tests:
L-Drago Destroy (Absorb) 145D: 3:12
L-Drago Destroy (Attack) 145D: 3:01
Lightning L-Drago (Barrage) 145D: 3:00
Lightning L-Drago (Upper) 145D: 3:49