(May. 11, 2018  12:05 PM)Crimson Chin Wrote: I wish everybody who came to participate could have a Sr so thatits not banned.

(May. 09, 2018  2:26 PM)Frostic Fox Wrote: I feel like no ban should be seen as permanent, just until whatever the reason for the ban is gone.

I mean, it'd be rough if some previous decisions could never be changed. But the rules are digital, not carved in stone.

(May. 08, 2018  6:47 PM)ZYeYO Wrote:

(May. 07, 2018  2:51 PM)~Mana~ Wrote: Spin direction isn't the issue, especially given how many Beys we have of each direction.

And Sr can Burst, but it's simply hard to do. Bloody Longinus manages it quite well if Sr spins left, but that's the limit to it.

But obviously the entire Layer just has traits that make it rather broken at the moment...

And it also depends on the molds as in the recent event in Fremont some spriggan requiems did not burst it all and then others like Mages burst against Siege Xcalibur attack combos and spriggan was in left which was really bizarre to see. that dose not mean spriggan Requiem barring is
Not beatable mine's got shut down by G3 some disc and frame atomic by os that seems to be the only thing that can beat it right now that can care of you to the finals
So in the end Banning spriggan requiem and G3 and maximum Garuda was a good choice for the meta
The next one I see possibly getting trial band is Crush Ragnarok as this thing is a stamina type but at times is hard to burst depending on the molds we will have to see in the future if it dominates The Meta or not

(May. 26, 2018  6:33 AM)Realpig630 Wrote:

(May. 08, 2018  6:47 PM)ZYeYO Wrote: And it also depends on the molds as in the recent event in Fremont some spriggan requiems did not burst it all and then others like Mages burst against Siege Xcalibur attack combos and spriggan was in left which was really bizarre to see. that dose not mean spriggan Requiem barring is
Not beatable mine's got shut down by G3 some disc and frame atomic by os that seems to be the only thing that can beat it right now that can care of you to the finals
So in the end Banning spriggan requiem and G3 and maximum Garuda was a good choice for the meta
The next one I see possibly getting trial band is Crush Ragnarok as this thing is a stamina type but at times is hard to burst depending on the molds we will have to see in the future if it dominates The Meta or not

Hey winning Valkyrie 8.v bursts Sr pretty hard. For one match. That’s it... But I agree that banning Sr was good. Now I don’t have to spend hours trying to make a combo that can at least tie with Sr.

(May. 11, 2018  12:05 PM)Crimson Chin Wrote: I wish everybody who came to participate could have a Sr so thatits not banned.

(May. 30, 2018  3:49 AM)Kei Wrote: Beyblade Zone - 5/12/2018
Toronto, Ontario, Canada - Burst Format

1st: @[OldSchool™]
Drain Fafnir 0 Bump Destroy
Emperor Forneus 0 Bump Bearing
Shadow Orichalcum 0 Bump Destroy
Emperor Forneus 7 Glaive Atomic (Deck Format Finals Only)
Drain Fafnir 4 Glaive Atomic (Deck Format Finals Only)

(May. 30, 2018  5:25 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Can I ask how good Emperor Forneus was at defense at that tournament? Better than Alter Chronos?

(May. 30, 2018  5:25 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Can I ask how good Emperor Forneus was at defense at that tournament? Better than Alter Chronos?

(May. 31, 2018  1:26 AM)Kei Wrote:

(May. 30, 2018  5:25 AM)MonoDragon Wrote: Can I ask how good Emperor Forneus was at defense at that tournament? Better than Alter Chronos?

I think it's hard to make that comparison because no one really used aC. But obviously, eF does have the weight advantage over aC. The burst resistance also depends on the Disk being used.

That being said, there was some counters to eF I discovered (and others did too) after the event which were ultimately used at BEYBLADE NORTH 2018. But I'll talk about that in my report for that event.

(May. 31, 2018  11:18 AM)Limetka Wrote:

(May. 31, 2018  1:26 AM)Kei Wrote: I think it's hard to make that comparison because no one really used aC. But obviously, eF does have the weight advantage over aC. The burst resistance also depends on the Disk being used.

That being said, there was some counters to eF I discovered (and others did too) after the event which were ultimately used at BEYBLADE NORTH 2018. But I'll talk about that in my report for that event.

Can I ask what are the advantages of eF on bearing instead of atomic? Seems like by putting Forneus on bearing makes you vulnerable to attack, while still losing matchups you would lose on Atomic.

(May. 31, 2018  11:46 AM)leosama Wrote:

(May. 31, 2018  11:18 AM)Limetka Wrote: Can I ask what are the advantages of eF on bearing instead of atomic? Seems like by putting Forneus on bearing makes you vulnerable to attack, while still losing matchups you would lose on Atomic.

Bearing has more Stamina, and if both are going to lose by bursting, you might as well go with Bearing.

(May. 31, 2018  11:18 AM)Limetka Wrote: Can I ask what are the advantages of eF on bearing instead of atomic? Seems like by putting Forneus on bearing makes you vulnerable to attack, while still losing matchups you would lose on Atomic.

(May. 31, 2018  9:25 PM)Kei Wrote:

(May. 31, 2018  11:18 AM)Limetka Wrote: Can I ask what are the advantages of eF on bearing instead of atomic? Seems like by putting Forneus on bearing makes you vulnerable to attack, while still losing matchups you would lose on Atomic.

Better life after death for opposite spin matchups. If you use Atomic you're open to losing to things like dF on Destroy or Bearing. eF on Bearing also doesn't get bursted by some common attackers that easily necessarily (although against something like zA it does, but it's not too common at this point). Atomic is better defensively, but sometimes you have to weigh the positives and negatives and choose which Driver is going to give you a better chance to win against what you think your opponent could use.

(Jun. 04, 2018  6:35 PM)JoJo [Jp0t] Wrote: 1st place - JoJo [Jp0t]
MGC Twin Nemesis.2C.O
Hell Salamander.0B.At
Bloody Longinus.7Jl (used only for one round and lost)

(Jun. 04, 2018  6:48 PM)Kei Wrote: Haha, pretty much what I expected to happen with hS.

(Jun. 04, 2018  6:35 PM)JoJo [Jp0t] Wrote: 1st place - JoJo [Jp0t]
MGC Twin Nemesis.2C.O
Hell Salamander.0B.At
Bloody Longinus.7Jl (used only for one round and lost)

For your bL combo when you say "(used only for one round and lost)" do you mean you never won a round with it in a match that you won? If so, it shouldn't be listed.

(Jun. 04, 2018  6:48 PM)Kei Wrote: Haha, pretty much what I expected to happen with hS.


For your bL combo when you say "(used only for one round and lost)" do you mean you never won a round with it in a match that you won? If so, it shouldn't be listed.

(Jun. 04, 2018  6:35 PM)JoJo [Jp0t] Wrote: “IncrediBURST: Jack-Jack Attack!”
Los Angeles, CA - June 2, 2018

1st place - JoJo [Jp0t]
MGC Twin Nemesis.2C.O
Hell Salamander.0B.At

2nd place - Shindog
Hell Salamander.0F.Br
MGC Twin Nemesis.7G.O
Nightmare Longinus.M.X

3rd place - Alta
MGC Twin Nemesis.7M.Hn
Hell Salamander.0B.Br
Nightmare Longinus.F.X

(Jun. 04, 2018  8:45 PM)SUGOI-KONICHEWA Wrote:

(Jun. 04, 2018  6:35 PM)JoJo [Jp0t] Wrote: “IncrediBURST: Jack-Jack Attack!”
Los Angeles, CA - June 2, 2018

1st place - JoJo [Jp0t]
MGC Twin Nemesis.2C.O
Hell Salamander.0B.At

2nd place - Shindog
Hell Salamander.0F.Br
MGC Twin Nemesis.7G.O
Nightmare Longinus.M.X

3rd place - Alta
MGC Twin Nemesis.7M.Hn
Hell Salamander.0B.Br
Nightmare Longinus.F.X

Was the Attack mode being used in hS combos?

(Jun. 04, 2018  7:58 PM)Shindog Wrote: I don’t believe I won a round with MGC tN.7G.O.  I could be wrong because this is all new to me.  I think I score a knock out with nL against hS and OS bL with hS only in the finals.  I don’t remember winning any points with tN in the deck format.  

(Jun. 04, 2018  6:48 PM)Kei Wrote: Haha, pretty much what I expected to happen with hS.


For your bL combo when you say "(used only for one round and lost)" do you mean you never won a round with it in a match that you won? If so, it shouldn't be listed.

Ah ok. I’ll remove it. I just listed my entire deck.

Hell Salamander dominated the tournament. It’s safer on At than Br. During group stage, I used hS.0B.Br against zA.0M.Ds and lost; 2 bursts, 1 KO. Weak launching the whole time.