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Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - MrBlade - Jun. 01, 2019 Just got Judgement Joker anyone want to put in some combos? List of available parts: Layers: Most Cho-Z Layers (excluding Vice Leopard, Emperor Forneus, Z Achilles, Winning Valkyrie, Bloody Longinus, Cho-Z Spriggan, and Left Apollos) Arc Bahamut Nightmare Longinus Layer Bases: Ace Grand Rock Slash Bushin Wizard Gatinko Chips: Dragon Valkyrie Ashura Fafnir Layer Weights: Zan (x2) Retsu Ten Sen Discs: 00 (x2) 0 (x2) 1 1' 2 4 6 7 8 8' 10 11 12 13 Zenith Sting Blitz Hurricane Ratchet Frames: Bump (x2) Cross Dagger Expand Flow Glaive (x2) Lift Proof Turn Under Vortex Drivers (all TT): Just about every Driver that comes with a Cho-Z Bey (except all Dash Drivers, Yard, and Jolt) Bearing Rise Trick Keep Charge Power RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - RED NINJA 0829 - Jun. 01, 2019 Perfect Phoenix .00C.Xt+ Vs Judgment Joker .Bl.Ds Retsu Orb Egis Sting Atomic Vs Judgment Joker Blitz Charge Retsu Hell Salamander .00C.Xt+ Vs Judgment Joker Blitz Destroy Retsu RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Ash_Ketchum_007 - Jun. 01, 2019 JD.Bl.Xt+(stamina) Zan vs: pP.00C.At hS.Rt.Br aH.10.Et aB.Rt.Br RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - MrBlade - Jun. 01, 2019 Perfect Phoenix 00Cross Xtend+ (Stamina for even rounds, Attack for odd rounds) vs. Judgement Joker Blitz Destroy Retsu Round 1: JJ Over Finish (pP launched first) Round 2: pP Spin Finish (JJ launched first) Round 3: pP Spin Finish (JJ) Round 4: pP Over Finish (pP) Round 5: JJ Over Finish (pP) Round 6: pP Spin Finish (JJ) Round 7: JJ Over Finish (JJ) Round 8: JJ Burst Finish (pP) Round 9: JJ Spin Finish (pP) Round 10: pP Spin Finish (JJ) JJ Stats: 5 Wins (50%) 5 Losses (50%) Basically this could be a 50/50 shot no matter if Xtend+ is in Attack or Stamina. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hell Salamander 00Cross Xtend+ (Stamina for odd rounds, Attack for even rounds) vs. Judgement Joker Blitz Destroy Retsu Round 1: hS Spin Finish (hS) Round 2: JJ Over Finish (JJ) Round 3: hS Spin Finish (JJ) Round 4: hS Over Finish (hS) Round 5: JJ Over Finish (hS) Round 6: JJ Over Finish (JJ) Round 7: JJ Over Finish (JJ) Round 8: hS Over Finish (hS) Round 9: JJ Over Finish (hS) Round 10: JJ Over Finish (hS) JJ Stats: 6 Wins (60%) 4 Losses (40%) Judgement Joker can get an upper hand either way. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Orb Egis Sting Atomic vs. Judgement Joker Blitz Charge Retsu Round 1: oE Spin Finish (oE) Round 2: oE Spin Finish (JJ) Round 3: JJ Burst Finish (oE) Round 4: JJ Over Finish (JJ) Round 5: oE Spin Finish (oE) Round 6: oE Spin Finish (JJ) Round 7: oE Spin Finish (oE) Round 8: JJ Burst Finish (JJ) Round 9: oE Spin Finish (oE) Round 10: JJ Over Finish (JJ) JJ Stats: 4 Wins (40%) 6 Losses (60%) While Orb Egis had the upper hand Judgement Joker has some Burst and Knock Out potential. Judgement Dragon Blitz Xtend+ (Stamina) vs. Perfect Phoenix 00Cross Atomic Round 1: pP Spin Finish (pP) Round 2: JD Over Finish (JD) Round 3: pP Over Finish (pP) Round 4: pP Spin Finish (JD) Round 5: pP Spin Finish (pP) Round 6: JD Over Finish (JD) Round 7: JD Spin Finish (pP) Round 8: JD Spin Finish (JD) Round 9: JD Burst Finish (pP) Round 10:JD Burst Finish (JD) JD Stats: 6 Wins (60%) 4 Losses (40%) Surprisingly JD had a great turn around and can kind of dominate pP though it does goes down/around after a bit when a bey doesn't come in contact with it ___________________________________________________________________________________________ vs. Hell Salamander Ratchet Bearing Round 1: JD Burst Finish (hS) Round 2: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 3: JD Burst Finish (hS) Round 4: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 5: hS Over Finish (hS) Round 6: JD Over Finish (JD) Round 7: hS Spin Finish (hS) Round 8: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 9: JD Burst Finish (hS) Round 10: JD Burst Finish (JD) JD Stats: 8 Wins (80%) 2 Losses (20%) Long story short hS.Rt.Br isn't good against JD _____________________________________________________________________________________________ vs. Archer Hercules 10 Eternal Round 1: aH Spin Finish (aH) Round 2: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 3: JD Spin Finish (aH) Round 4: JD Over Finish (JD) Round 5: JD Burst Finish (aH) Round 6: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 7: JD Burst Finish (aH) Round 8: aH Spin Finish (JD) Round 9: aH Over Finish (aH) Round 10: JD Burst Finish (JD) JD Stats: 7 Wins (70%) 3 Losses (30%) Kinda obviously pretty good against aH ______________________________________________________________________________________________ vs. Arc Bahamut Ratchet Bearing Round 1: JD Burst Finish (aB) Round 2: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 3: JD Burst Finish (aB) Round 4: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 5: JD Burst Finish (aB) Round 6: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 7: JD Burst Finish (aB) Round 8: JD Burst Finish (JD) Round 9: JD Burst Finish (aB) Round 10: JD Burst Finish (JD) JD Stats: 10 Wins (100%) 0 Losses (0%) No need to explain. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - CitrusNinja3 - Jun. 02, 2019 Hmm, what about Judgement Joker 00 Cross Xtend+ Zan vs Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Zan? RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Infinite.Zero - Jun. 02, 2019 (Jun. 02, 2019 4:00 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Hmm, what about Judgement Joker 00 Cross Xtend+ Zan vs Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing?Interesting combo, but your using OOC.Xt+ mainly for pP. That would transfer to a weaker set of combos in a deck format situation. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - CitrusNinja3 - Jun. 02, 2019 (Jun. 02, 2019 4:13 AM)Infinite.Zero Wrote:I really just want to see which combo has more LAD, which can be determined easily due to how much the combos spin steal from each other thanks to the rubber and JJ’s attack power.(Jun. 02, 2019 4:00 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Hmm, what about Judgement Joker 00 Cross Xtend+ Zan vs Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing?Interesting combo, but your using OOC.Xt+ mainly for pP. That would transfer to a weaker set of combos in a deck format situation. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - MrBlade - Jun. 02, 2019 (Jun. 02, 2019 4:00 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Hmm, what about Judgement Joker 00 Cross Xtend+ Zan vs Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Zan? What mode for Xtend+? RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - CitrusNinja3 - Jun. 02, 2019 (Jun. 02, 2019 2:28 PM)MrBlade Wrote:(Jun. 02, 2019 4:00 AM)CitrusNinja3 Wrote: Hmm, what about Judgement Joker 00 Cross Xtend+ Zan vs Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Zan? Stamina RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - MrBlade - Jun. 02, 2019 Judgement Joker 00Cross Xtend+ (Stamina) Zan vs. Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Zan Round 1: JJ Burst Finish (WF launched first) Round 2: JJ Burst Finish (JJ) Round 3: JJ Over Finish (WF) Round 4: JJ Burst Finish (JJ) Round 5: JJ Burst Finish (WF) Round 6: JJ Burst Finish (JJ) Round 7: JJ Burst Finish (WF) Round 8: JJ Burst Finish (JJ) Round 9: WF Over Finish (WF) Round 10: JJ Burst Finish (JJ) JJ Stats: 9 Wins (90%) 1 Loss (10%) Conclusion: If Judgement beats hS and aB on Ratchet Bearing there isn't a doubt it would beat Wizard Fafnir too. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - 7upZ - Jun. 03, 2019 Judgement Joker.Retsu.0.Bump.orbit Make sure the Retsu’s single hexagon is placed on the same side as the rubber “burst stopper”. This should put more weight on that side and prevent the bey from bursting as the disk will have a higher chance to hit the burst stopper side. Vs Pp.00.Cross.Extend+ Hs.10.Lift.Bearing Ak.0.Proof.Atomic/Extend+ HS.Blitz.Destroy(rip’) Ah.10.Cross.Extend+ Pp.7.Volcanic Sr.00.Turn.Br(left spin) RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Ash_Ketchum_007 - Jun. 03, 2019 (Jun. 01, 2019 7:18 PM)MrBlade Wrote:Thanks man! Really appreciate the efforts! I think aB wasn't exactly representing B3 even in opposite spin......lol I'm surprised that a stationary attack combo has a good win rate against opposite spin bearing combos. Can you just do some quick weally weak launch battle of the same JD combo vs hS.rt.br? I want to know if it can tie or win against it if the battle comes down to LAD and precession. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Ardmore Bladers - Jun. 03, 2019 (Jun. 03, 2019 11:04 AM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote:Yeah, at Yami’s Tournament Episode 5, I beat a JJ 4-0 with a Balkesh B3 00W Br due to two easy outspins and a self burst by JJ lol. Also, I won JJ as a prize so I can now do testing as well.(Jun. 01, 2019 7:18 PM)MrBlade Wrote:Thanks man! Really appreciate the efforts! RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - RED NINJA 0829 - Jun. 03, 2019 Can you do Judgemant Joker 00B Ds Zan Vs pP 00C.Xt+ stamina mode RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Ardmore Bladers - Jun. 03, 2019 (Jun. 02, 2019 2:39 PM)MrBlade Wrote: Judgement Joker 00Cross Xtend+ (Stamina) Zan vs. Wizard Fafnir Ratchet Bearing Zan Perhaps Not... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7RWDH09_ogM (Jun. 03, 2019 12:39 PM)RED NINJA 0829 Wrote: Can you do Judgemant Joker 00B Ds Zan Vs pP 00C.Xt+ stamina mode Oh, sure. Destroy Dash with JJ as well? RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - 7upZ - Jun. 03, 2019 How does one delete posts?T_T RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Ash_Ketchum_007 - Jun. 03, 2019 (Jun. 03, 2019 12:41 PM)Ardmore Bladers Wrote:But, the wizard fafnir combo in the video had Gen weight... but you're right wizard fafnir can't be beaten if it has gen weight. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - MrBlade - Jun. 03, 2019 I’ll do more tests later everyone. I am currently at school. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Garvin prime - Jun. 04, 2019 (Jun. 03, 2019 3:07 PM)Ash_Ketchum_007 Wrote: But, the wizard fafnir combo in the video had Gen weight... but you're right wizard fafnir can't be beaten if it has gen weight. Spoiler (Click to View) RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - UltimateMaster - Jun. 04, 2019 Can you test: JJ hurricane trick vs WF stock combo RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - MrBlade - Jun. 04, 2019 (Jun. 03, 2019 10:51 AM)7upZ Wrote: Vs What modes for Xtend+? Also I don't have Spriggan/Spryzen Requiem so I can't do the last one. Judgement Joker 00Bump Destroy Zan vs. Perfect Phoenix 00Cross Xtend+ (Stamina) Round 1: pP Spin Finish (pP) Round 2: pP Spin Finish (JJ) Round 3: JJ Over Finish (pP) Round 4: pP Spin Finish (JJ) Round 5: pP Burst Finish (pP) Round 6: pP Spin Finish (JJ) Round 7: JJ Over Finish (pP) Round 8: JJ Burst Finish (JJ) Round 9: JJ Burst Finish (pP) Round 10: pP Burst Finish (JJ) JJ Stats: 4 Wins (40%) 6 Losses (60%) pP got the upper hand but JJ has some potential. RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Infinite.Zero - Jun. 04, 2019 (Jun. 03, 2019 12:43 PM)7upZ Wrote: How does one delete posts?T_TOnly moderators can delete posts. UwU RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - FuryWingsYT - Jul. 06, 2019 JV.Blitz.Charge vs hS.7G.At RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - bekfastblader - Jul. 06, 2019 Can you do JD.Bl.Xt+ in defense mode vs pP.00P.Ds'? RE: Judgement Joker Testing & Discussion - Wombat - Jul. 08, 2019 Hey MrBlade, thanks for making this thread and testing out Judgement, but would you mind making sure that the test results you posted are closer to the Standard Format that the WBO uses? I recorded these back when I first got Judgement, but just haven't posted them until now. Judgement Joker 0Glaive Xtreme' 天 vs Balkesh B3 00Wall Bearing JJ.0G.X' 天: 8 wins (all KO) B3.00W.Br: 2 wins (all KO) JJ.0G.X' 天 win rate: 80% Judgement kicked B3 around like it was a piece of cotton candy, there were quite a few late game KOs and Judgement even managed to KO B3 when I weak launched it as well. The only chance B3 had of winning was if Judgement recoil KOed and B3 wall saved. I stopped after 10 rounds since the rubber chips off so quickly, but this isn't as much of an issue if you only use Judgement against left spin opponents. |