(Dec. 23, 2020 2:37 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:36 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Ngl, I wanna see that Sisco VS Lui rematch. After that first battle in God, I was left hella unsatisfied.
You don’t even need a rematch to know the victor, no point.
Tbh I doubt they are gonna actually make Silas weaker.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:37 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:36 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Ngl, I wanna see that Sisco VS Lui rematch. After that first battle in God, I was left hella unsatisfied.
You don’t even need a rematch to know the victor, no point.
I'm not saying that Sisco is going to outright win, but he definitely could do better than in God. Low chance, but he could possibly knock out or outspin Longinus with the power of those rollers. Or he could at least set up for Free to get an easy KO or somethin, Idk.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:37 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]You don’t even need a rematch to know the victor, no point.
Tbh I doubt they are gonna actually make Silas weaker.
Lui is still a league above Silas even if Silas got stronger.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:39 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Tbh I doubt they are gonna actually make Silas weaker.
Lui is still a league above Silas even if Silas got stronger.
They're both legends, so anything is still possible.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:39 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:37 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]You don’t even need a rematch to know the victor, no point.
I'm not saying that Sisco is going to outright win, but he definitely could do better than in God. Low chance, but he could possibly knock out or outspin Longinus with the power of those rollers. Or he could at least set up for Free to get an easy KO or somethin, Idk.
That makes more sense.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:39 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:37 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]You don’t even need a rematch to know the victor, no point.
I'm not saying that Sisco is going to outright win, but he definitely could do better than in God. Low chance, but he could possibly knock out or outspin Longinus with the power of those rollers. Or he could at least set up for Free to get an easy KO or somethin, Idk.
The rollers to jack carp even in the anime. They aren’t gonna be deflecting a Luinor attack. Anyways the upper attacks go under the rollers. He could set him up for a Free attack, maybe.
I think we all know what happened in GT right when Lodin beated Fumiya meaning Longinus beated Fafnir its true it aint the Free vs. Lui duel but still Longinus vs. Fafnir the score as of now is 2 wins for Longinus and 1 win for Fafnir
It most likely won't be anything like their battle in Evolution. Silas will put up a much better fight, but in the end I think he'd take the L in a 1v1 clash.
Its so obvious Free will go in Counter Mode
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:39 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:38 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Tbh I doubt they are gonna actually make Silas weaker.
Lui is still a league above Silas even if Silas got stronger.
Sure he may not be as generally impressive as Lui, but Silas was able to take attacks from both Valt and Free at the same time and he only lost to Free by about a second (and due to plot armour) even after all that. He also got pretty close to beating Lane driving him towards the edge and put up a pretty good fight. He could totally win if the writers want it. If Ranjiro can somehow win a match then anyone else in this tournament surely can.
I see no burst happening in here either.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:39 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Lui is still a league above Silas even if Silas got stronger.
Silas was able to take attacks from both Valt and Free at the same time and he only lost to Free by about a second (and due to plot armour) even after all that. He also got pretty close to beating Lane driving him towards the edge and put up a pretty good fight. He could totally win if the writers want it. If Ranjiro can somehow win a match then anyone else in this tournament surely can.
Valt and Free just have Rubber, not metal. Ranjiro won by training hard to draw out more of Roktavor’s power.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:39 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Lui is still a league above Silas even if Silas got stronger.
Silas was able to take attacks from both Valt and Free at the same time and he only lost to Free by about a second (and due to plot armour) even after all that. He also got pretty close to beating Lane driving him towards the edge and put up a pretty good fight. He could totally win if the writers want it. If Ranjiro can somehow win a match then anyone else in this tournament surely can.
Well, that's the thing isn't it. Anyone can technically win if the writers will it. Anything can happen if the writers will it. Doesn't always make sense. I can see Silas doing a very good job against Lui. I just don't see him winning. Maybe via a down to the wire survivor finish.
Also as I said before upper attacks bypass rollers either way.
Honestly why do I find it funny there facing each other off yet they have been tagged before. Dante was teamed up with Silas and Free was teamed up with Lui.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Silas was able to take attacks from both Valt and Free at the same time and he only lost to Free by about a second (and due to plot armour) even after all that. He also got pretty close to beating Lane driving him towards the edge and put up a pretty good fight. He could totally win if the writers want it. If Ranjiro can somehow win a match then anyone else in this tournament surely can.
Valt and Free just have Rubber, not metal. Ranjiro won by training hard to draw out more of Roktavor’s power.
Fair enough on Ranjiro, but I don’t think that having metal alone would really dominate. It’s not quite a realistic thing where metal will just dominate other gimmick like it does irl.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:45 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Valt and Free just have Rubber, not metal. Ranjiro won by training hard to draw out more of Roktavor’s power.
Fair enough on Ranjiro, but I don’t think that having metal alone would really dominate. It’s not quite a realistic thing where metal will just dominate other gimmick like it does irl.
A direct metal attack on hurricane does alot
If Silas does Triple Twister there is a minimal chance he could push out Luinor
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:42 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]Silas was able to take attacks from both Valt and Free at the same time and he only lost to Free by about a second (and due to plot armour) even after all that. He also got pretty close to beating Lane driving him towards the edge and put up a pretty good fight. He could totally win if the writers want it. If Ranjiro can somehow win a match then anyone else in this tournament surely can.
Valt and Free just have Rubber, not metal. Ranjiro won by training hard to draw out more of Roktavor’s power.
Nah, the storm plate saved him, that's what. And are you saying that Triple Twister won't work against metal? Pretty sure free spin works well against anything in the anime context unless you could power through it, probably meaning that Lui would have to use his special move or even combine with Drum, but that may not work either.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:47 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Valt and Free just have Rubber, not metal. Ranjiro won by training hard to draw out more of Roktavor’s power.
Nah, the storm plate saved him, that's what. And are you saying that Triple Twister won't work against metal? Pretty sure free spin works well against anything in the anime context unless you could power through it, probably meaning that Lui would have to use his special move or even combine with Drum, but that may not work either.
True, but he used the storm plate in a strategic way, he knew what he was doing based on the expression he made before doing it. And pretty much any gimmick works well against anything isn’t he anime.
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:47 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:44 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Valt and Free just have Rubber, not metal. Ranjiro won by training hard to draw out more of Roktavor’s power.
Nah, the storm plate saved him, that's what. And are you saying that Triple Twister won't work against metal? Pretty sure free spin works well against anything in the anime context unless you could power through it, probably meaning that Lui would have to use his special move or even combine with Drum, but that may not work either.
The Storm plate magically drained all of Satomb’s stamina? No, Super Tornado did. Anyways Lui can easily power through hurricane with just a raging upper.
I totally forgot how Lui crushed Sisco badly in God. Yet I got a feeling we might see Nothing Break here again
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:48 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:47 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Nah, the storm plate saved him, that's what. And are you saying that Triple Twister won't work against metal? Pretty sure free spin works well against anything in the anime context unless you could power through it, probably meaning that Lui would have to use his special move or even combine with Drum, but that may not work either.
True, but he used the storm plate in a strategic way, he knew what he was doing based on the expression he made before doing it. And pretty much any gimmick works well against anything isn’t he anime.
Yeah, I know he used the storm plate on purpose, but if it weren't there, he would have lost. A bit of quick thinking saved him which is good on Ranjiro's part. And yeah, Sisco COULD defend against Drum and Lui in some way, but we'll have to see how far the take this. If it's another Sisco focused episode then I have a little bit of hope.
Free got the Absorb Mode, Counter Mode, and Nothing Break (Still waiting for that)
Sisco got the Rollers
Drum got the Awakening Mode thingy
Lui got the Upper Attacks
What would be the difference between these?
(Dec. 23, 2020 2:50 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ] (Dec. 23, 2020 2:48 PM)Zeutron Wrote: [ -> ]True, but he used the storm plate in a strategic way, he knew what he was doing based on the expression he made before doing it. And pretty much any gimmick works well against anything isn’t he anime.
Yeah, I know he used the storm plate on purpose, but if it weren't there, he would have lost. A bit of quick thinking saved him which is good on Ranjiro's part. And yeah, Sisco COULD defend against Drum and Lui in some way, but we'll have to see how far the take this. If it's another Sisco focused episode then I have a little bit of hope.
It’s almost like he purposely lined up the attack so after he finished he would hit the Storm plate.