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We actually did Block Double Elimination before, the person in charge thought it was the way to do it, it saves A LOT more time doing Blocks, they are done at the same time, yes. Shouldn't it be that, no matter how many attendees, the same amount of battles is played per person. That way you have a fair chance of getting beypoints compared to everyone else.

It will mean the same amount of battles as everyone does end up battling say 6 battles (for winners), which is the same as normal Double Elimination. It shouldn't be any more tiresome for the processor person.

The overall amount of battles won't be a lot at all...

29 battles per block to be exact, averages out at less than 2 battles a person
I think we should do it the way we have it now, in London. But 2 people go through to the Finals then the top 2 from the finals face eachother one final time
(Jul. 18, 2011  4:11 PM)ControL_ Wrote: [ -> ]We actually did Block Double Elimination before, the person in charge thought it was the way to do it, it saves A LOT more time doing Blocks, they are done at the same time, yes. Shouldn't it be that, no matter how many attendees, the same amount of battles is played per person. That way you have a fair chance of getting beypoints compared to everyone else.

It will mean the same amount of battles as everyone does end up battling say 6 battles (for winners), which is the same as normal Double Elimination. It shouldn't be any more tiresome for the processor person.

The overall amount of battles won't be a lot at all...

Personally, 6 battles per person in the end is nice, regardless of the way you do it, but running a double elimination needs a seasoned judge, who knows the match ups real well. 3 blocks of that, means 3 seasoned reliable judges.

But it's up to the committee really.
(Jul. 18, 2011  4:16 PM)Shadow Scythe Wrote: [ -> ]I think we should do it the way we have it now, in London. But 2 people go through to the Finals then the top 2 from the finals face eachother one final time
No, I disagree, before you joined, there were no signup restrictions, imagine that, unlimited amount of bladers - That's a lot funner imo, and I much preferred in like that in London.

Hectic, but fun.
(Jul. 18, 2011  4:20 PM)Uwik Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jul. 18, 2011  4:11 PM)ControL_ Wrote: [ -> ]We actually did Block Double Elimination before, the person in charge thought it was the way to do it, it saves A LOT more time doing Blocks, they are done at the same time, yes. Shouldn't it be that, no matter how many attendees, the same amount of battles is played per person. That way you have a fair chance of getting beypoints compared to everyone else.

It will mean the same amount of battles as everyone does end up battling say 6 battles (for winners), which is the same as normal Double Elimination. It shouldn't be any more tiresome for the processor person.

The overall amount of battles won't be a lot at all...

Personally, 6 battles per person in the end is nice, regardless of the way you do it, but running a double elimination needs a seasoned judge, who knows the match ups real well. 3 blocks of that, means 3 seasoned reliable judges.

But it's up to the committee really.
Wait, let me adjust the numbers above, they are incorrect.
http://www.printyourbrackets.com/15teamd...ation.html
These brackets confuse me.
Is a painted bey is ok.cos ive used markers to paint them.
Is a painted bey is ok.cos ive used markers to paint them.
(Aug. 18, 2011  4:03 AM)Sayak Blader Wrote: [ -> ]Is a painted bey is ok.cos ive used markers to paint them.
Is a painted bey is ok.cos ive used markers to paint them.

If the paint is very light and does not affect performance or give too much added weight, then it is OK.
Im kinda confused we are playing by universal so i can use MFB against someone who uses a HMS?
(Aug. 26, 2011  3:39 PM)ZeoFlameByxis Wrote: [ -> ]Im kinda confused we are playing by universal so i can use MFB against someone who uses a HMS?

No, "Universal" is not a format. You either use the Standard Format (which was given a specific, shorter version of the Rulebook), the HMS Format, or the Plastics Format. Open Format does not exist anymore.

"Universal" just means that it is a version of the Rulebooks that includes the rules for all the formats.
I found something interesting...

Quote:Stalling Clause
If it becomes clear that both Bladers are waiting for their opponent's Beyblade and Launcher
selection before making their own, both Bladers are to turn their backs to each other and
make their selections in secret.

This clause can only last a maximum of four minutes, after which both Bladers must be
ready to initiate the BeyBattle. Unless due to a technical issue (i.e. a Blader cannot find a
Tool to assemble their Beyblade), any longer delay will be counted as an automatic loss of
the BeyBattle by the Blader causing the delay. The judge should demonstrate reasonable
discretionary power.
Every host I've ever spoken to (including myself), was under the impression that stalling clause must be announced as stalling clause. Here in the rules, it doesn't say anything about calling it a stalling clause or how it should be done. Specifically, how should this be called?
It is probably because the only other clause, Reshoot Clause, is clearly written as having to be invoked, so logically the same applies to Stalling Clause. At BEYBLADE CRUSADE, every judge just shouted "Stalling Clause" when either one of the players expressed their request for it or if it was clear that Beyblade and Launcher selection was going to be too long.
(Sep. 12, 2011  3:41 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]It is probably because the only other clause, Reshoot Clause, is clearly written as having to be invoked, so logically the same applies to Stalling Clause. At BEYBLADE CRUSADE, every judge just shouted "Stalling Clause" when either one of the players expressed their request for it or if it was clear that Beyblade and Launcher selection was going to be too long.
So either the participant or the judge must verbally express the term "stalling clause" in order for it to be invoked?

I know it's logical, but to tell you the truth, there was some controversy as to who actually has to call it. In Maryland, it is at the player's discretion. In Toronto, it is at the judge's discretion.
A player can also invoke it, it is just common customs for the judge to officialise it by repeating it. It is good sportsmanship for the other player to actually respect their opponent's wish anyway.

Plus, if nobody calls it, then one of the players can just turn around when the other Blader is ready, see what they chose, and turn around again, which is why there is no hesitation to invoke the clause. Technically, if nobody calls it, then you could indeed do the described action, but it would be very poor sportsmanship.
Also, the rules say the bladers may not touch the stadium. However, what happens if the stadium starts moving from an attack type? In Cye's tournament, I did sliding shot and should have got the flower pattern. Instead, it caught the tornado ridge because we were playing on a stone surface and the stadium kept moving. Because there was no stability, the RF would pull the stadium instead of rebounding off the plastic. What can be done in a situation like this? Or rather, what should be done? I lost because of it and it seems as though that, by not stabilizing the stadium, the surface created a disadvantage to my attack type.
TAKARA-TOMY does nothing with this issue, so perhaps it is supposed to happen. You can make a successful flower pattern even with a very smooth surface where the stadium would not horizontally be stable.
The judge can't even hold it?
They are not supposed to. Nobody is supposed to touch the stadium once the battle has started. All the judge can do is place it before the match begins.
(Sep. 12, 2011  4:12 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ]Also, the rules say the bladers may not touch the stadium. However, what happens if the stadium starts moving from an attack type? In Cye's tournament, I did sliding shot and should have got the flower pattern. Instead, it caught the tornado ridge because we were playing on a stone surface and the stadium kept moving. Because there was no stability, the RF would pull the stadium instead of rebounding off the plastic. What can be done in a situation like this? Or rather, what should be done? I lost because of it and it seems as though that, by not stabilizing the stadium, the surface created a disadvantage to my attack type.

You should consider this disadvantage before the battle begins. Even the surface the stadium is on is an important factor of the battle! I think, if you wanted to build a structure to hold the stadium in place (e.g. the cages at Takara-Tomy) tournaments, you could. Or use the stadium guards. But nobody can hold it.
(Sep. 12, 2011  4:35 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep. 12, 2011  4:12 AM)Deikailo Wrote: [ -> ]Also, the rules say the bladers may not touch the stadium. However, what happens if the stadium starts moving from an attack type? In Cye's tournament, I did sliding shot and should have got the flower pattern. Instead, it caught the tornado ridge because we were playing on a stone surface and the stadium kept moving. Because there was no stability, the RF would pull the stadium instead of rebounding off the plastic. What can be done in a situation like this? Or rather, what should be done? I lost because of it and it seems as though that, by not stabilizing the stadium, the surface created a disadvantage to my attack type.

You should consider this disadvantage before the battle begins. Even the surface the stadium is on is an important factor of the battle! I think, if you wanted to build a structure to hold the stadium in place (e.g. the cages at Takara-Tomy) tournaments, you could. Or use the stadium guards. But nobody can hold it.
Probably, but it was an odd circumstance at the time. Cye had to move about 60 kids about 10 city blocks up through central park in the pouring rain to a very crowded and dimly lit corridor. We switched surfaces and I guess I didn't consider this after playing on astroturf earlier. Uncertain I just feel as though it would have been nice to have some stability because my combo did knock out my opponent once or twice on launch. I dislike playing stamina vs. stamina.
We taped the stadiums to the floor to avoid them from moving around prior to the start of the day. Not the best looking, but it worked wonders.
Personally, while perhaps it could allow you to perform an actual pattern, keeping the stadium in place should hinder your Beyblade's spin more, so it is also not just an advantage.
(Sep. 12, 2011  12:52 PM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, while perhaps it could allow you to perform an actual pattern, keeping the stadium in place should hinder your Beyblade's spin more, so it is also not just an advantage.

If the stadium moves or shakes it acts as a damper and removes more energy from the beyblade, decreasing speed and spin. A rigid stadium held in place would be better for the bey.

Think of it like trying to run around a corner with a rug on the floor. If the rug slips you lose your speed in the turn and aren't able to turn the corner very well (and maybe fall on your tookas)!

I like the idea of fixing the stadiums to the ground, actually. Stiff wire through small holes in the floor contact surface might do the trick on grass, but Brad's suggestion of a board or something has its appeal as well. In fact, if you had a board with three adjustable screw feet, that would also allow you to make sure the stadium was completely level - which is not always guaranteed on a grass surface, or even on some concrete pads...

Is there any problem that you can see with staking or otherwise fixing the stadium to another surface?
I am quite sure that a spinning top would either spin faster or move faster or both with a stadium that is not fixed, than in a 'stable' stadium because the stadium, but also the top has to absorb the shock from when the spinning top hits the Tornado Ridge.


Anyway, there should not be any issues with sticking the stadium to the floor in terms of legality.
Instead of putting wires through the bottom of the stadium (or did I read that wrong?) , I'd say just use some duct tape.
Works like a charm.
(Sep. 13, 2011  5:02 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Anyway, there should not be any issues with sticking the stadium to the floor in terms of legality.

Thank you Kai-V
(Sep. 13, 2011  5:02 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: [ -> ]Instead of putting wires through the bottom of the stadium (or did I read that wrong?) , I'd say just use some duct tape.
Works like a charm.

Ha. Duct tape on grass, I'll have to give it a try... Smile
(Sep. 13, 2011  5:12 AM)Arupaeo Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep. 13, 2011  5:02 AM)Raigeko13 Wrote: [ -> ]Instead of putting wires through the bottom of the stadium (or did I read that wrong?) , I'd say just use some duct tape.
Works like a charm.

Ha. Duct tape on grass, I'll have to give it a try... Smile

Duct tape on a tarp. Tarp on grass.
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