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Ridiculous especially since so many people called this happening as soon as they saw the design. Have TT's designers lost hold of any common sense?
To change our thoughts: here is a video showing the golden and black Zillion Zeus Magnum Variable, at least hah.


It will be a fan service in October, with the November issue of CoroCoro. If you know a middleman, you can simply order CoroCoro on Amazon.co.jp comes October, ship the magazine to them and you should necessarily be able to get it. No need to go for resellers or auctions.


EDIT: OK actually here is already a second break, at a similar wing but in the opposite direction, but after only twenty launches:
[Image: CshWIvKUAAAnn0c.jpg]
https://twitter.com/Sorop_0204/status/77...93312?s=09
Oh god, not again! Augh. ;_;

The gold looks so amazing ahh. I'm already in love. XD
I was counting on Hasbro to fix stuff like this, but they ruined something else... Dayum


(Sep. 17, 2016  3:58 AM)PlayGoEveryday Wrote: [ -> ]I was counting on Hasbro to fix stuff like this, but they ruined something else... Dayum

What does Hasbro have to do with this? Takara-Tomy is the originator of all of Burst's technical problems.
(Sep. 17, 2016  4:16 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep. 17, 2016  3:58 AM)PlayGoEveryday Wrote: [ -> ]I was counting on Hasbro to fix stuff like this, but they ruined something else... Dayum

What does Hasbro have to do with this? Takara-Tomy is the originator of all of Burst's technical problems.

He maybe trying to say that he's hoping that Hasbro would fix issue that TT beys had in there beys like how they improve Valtrex V2's contact point, Variable's wearing and Revolve (not sure what they did to it but i heard its free spinning part) etc
OK, but why bring Hasbro up now?
(Sep. 17, 2016  4:47 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]OK, but why bring Hasbro up now?

I guess because maybe like if TT one have an issue, we always have another option + they mostly going to fit them

Though I think due to that Slope design it may not be like that as they make there performance quite differant
(Sep. 17, 2016  3:58 AM)PlayGoEveryday Wrote: [ -> ]I was counting on Hasbro to fix stuff like this, but they ruined something else... Dayum
Hasbro didn't make this bey tho??
I get it but seems like they are complaining about something else ... either way, Hasbro shouldn't factor in. It's absurd that almost every Dual Layer release has either a) been comically easy to burst or b) has some serious design flaw that causes it to break.

I wonder what the best way to reach TT about this is. It's just crazy at this point. Managers at any other toy company would be fired for this level of incompetence.
(Sep. 17, 2016  2:02 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Wow. Screw this game now. This YouTuber's Zillion Zeus broke within minutes of having opened it. Wow.

I warned your guys that the underside was all hollow, but I never wished for that to directly cause breaks...

EDIT: OK actually here is already a second break, at a similar wing but in the opposite direction, but after only twenty launches:
https://twitter.com/Sorop_0204/status/776965656503693312?s=09

To change our thoughts: here is a video showing the golden and black Zillion Zeus Magnum Variable, at least hah.

It will be a fan service in October, with the November issue of CoroCoro. If you know a middleman, you can simply order CoroCoro on Amazon.co.jp comes October, ship the magazine to them and you should necessarily be able to get it. No need to go for resellers or auctions.

To be honest it has been even 24 hours we are seeing two break so very soon. Its very Disappointing to see this. I knew we would get to see breaks but so soon nah never really expected it so soon like everyone hah !

And about the Corocoro Limted Zillion Zeus I am thinking if they would fix this issue there ? So it would interesting to know that for sure.

Thanks for all the Updates Again Kai !


(Sep. 17, 2016  5:11 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]I get it but seems like they are complaining about something else ... either way, Hasbro shouldn't factor in. It's absurd that almost every Dual Layer release has either a) been comically easy to burst or b) has some serious design flaw that causes it to break.
Even I have noticed this actually. I don't know what really happening or what is Takara Tomy thinking but I am really not sure how would Hasbro deal with this design hah ?
Well That is not gonna be anytime soon but every Dual layer released till now has some serious design flaw for sure as you said But It was not like that in Pre Dual layers right ?

So what should we think then ? I mean in the starting the designs were like good ( Good in the sense there weren't that much design flaws which may cause a break somehow)
and the break issues weren't that much from what I have seen. So that was just a marketing and money making Strategy after all to attract as much as people they can ?
And now they don't care about the Designs and all ?
No Offence this may sound a bit rude but I am just keeping my thoughts here !
A person outside of Japan pays For international Shipping as well as some middleman charges ( If Applicable) to get that product and plus any custom duties and taxes ( if attracted hah) And it hurts when the Beyblade breaks so suddenly or even after like very soon !



(Sep. 17, 2016  5:11 AM)Bey Brad Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder what the best way to reach TT about this is. It's just crazy at this point. Managers at any other toy company would be fired for this level of incompetence.
I don't know how can we reach Takara Tomy about this but from what I have seen in Victory Valkyrie time as there were a lot of break issues that People mostly used to send a letter about it from what I know and they used to get a letter from Takara Tomy and a new Victory Valkyrie.
That's true that the number of breaks happening are very regular and its kind of very disappointing to see that. Not Only in Beyblade But also like the Sword launcher as we have seen hah.

Even if we are able to reach Takara Tomy someway I guess still we won't see any changes. It's like for example lets take Zillion Zeus Case only after some months we may see a New Zillion Zeus release in which the problem may fix but after only they realise their mistakes but I really don't expect that in Future in the upcoming Releases that they will keep all the mistakes in record which has happened in the past while designing up the Product So it doesn't happen again.
So In Short they still won't learn from the mistakes in the past I guess ? They may fix it after only they realise the mistake.
No Offence to Takara Tomy or You Brad or to anyone here Just my thoughts from what I have seen from past 1 year.
(Sep. 17, 2016  2:31 AM)Captain_Pancake Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep. 17, 2016  2:02 AM)Kai-V Wrote: [ -> ]Wow. Screw this game now. This YouTuber's Zillion Zeus broke within minutes of having opened it. Wow.

[Image: Zillion_Zeus_break.jpg]


So many breakages with new products. geez quality control get your stuff together!

with all the reported breakages, it makes me less inclined to buy certain beys even though they look awesome. *cough cough* Xeno Xcalibur

*pain*
Wow. Already two breaks in such a short period of time. I really hope they will fix this issue as soon as possible. Unhappy
(Sep. 17, 2016  9:53 AM)TL14 Wrote: [ -> ]Wow. Already two breaks in such a short period of time. I really hope they will fix this issue as soon as possible. Unhappy

What if they reinforce Z2 XD But hopefully it won't be like V2.
They ruined the aesthetics! Even if they fix the moulds, the Beys still won't look like the original ones...
I thought waiting for Hasbro to release Burst would be a wise idea, but... I guess I'm not gonna buy any now.
(Sep. 17, 2016  11:52 AM)PlayGoEveryday Wrote: [ -> ]They ruined the aesthetics! Even if they fix the moulds, the Beys still won't look like the original ones...
I thought waiting for Hasbro to release Burst would be a wise idea, but... I guess I'm not gonna buy any now.

I see. That's too bad. Let's keep the discussion focused on Zillion Zeus here Smile
There is absolutely no excuse for this. When Plastics came out more than a decade ago, the designers didn't had the tools they have now, and yet the Attack Rings were much more durable than any Dual Layer. How can you explain that a decade old super aggressive Attack Ring like Driger S' or Dragoon GT's are still used today without breaking, but a Layer like Zillion Zeus' or Victory Valkyrie's can break in a matter of seconds ?

It's pretty obvious that Takara Tomy is just looking for money. They don't care about the product nor it's quality, and they recycle ''ideas'' from the past to avoid any possible effort. More breaks = more money, right ?
(Sep. 17, 2016  7:19 PM)MissingNo. Wrote: [ -> ]There is absolutely no excuse for this. When Plastics came out more than a decade ago, the designers didn't had the tools they have now, and yet the Attack Rings were much more durable than any Dual Layer. How can you explain that a decade old super aggressive Attack Ring like Driger S' or Dragoon GT's are still used today without breaking, but a Layer like Zillion Zeus' or Victory Valkyrie's can break in a matter of seconds ?

It's pretty obvious that Takara Tomy is just looking for money. They don't care about the product nor it's quality, and they recycle ''ideas'' from the past to avoid any possible effort. More breaks = more money, right ?

You're right in some ways, but there were also many Attack Rings in Plastics that were fragile too. And there's many Dual Layers that don't have breakage issues. It's also important to remember that things like this always seem worse because we hang on to a few reported breakages, but we don't hear about the hundreds or thousands of people who's parts might be fine.

And if they didn't care about the quality of the product, they wouldn't have issued fixes to things like Victory Valkyrie. It is in their best interests to care, otherwise they have to deal with sending out replacements to more people, which would hurt them financially. Of course however, there does seem to be some kind of issue for issues like this with Zillion Zeus being able to be released in a state that makes them susceptible to breaking (to whatever degree these two isolated examples implicates).
(Sep. 17, 2016  7:19 PM)MissingNo. Wrote: [ -> ]It's pretty obvious that Takara Tomy is just looking for money. They don't care about the product nor it's quality, and they recycle ''ideas'' from the past to avoid any possible effort. More breaks = more money, right ?
Exactly ! They don't seem to learn from their mistakes in past In the Beyblade Burst Series and they will not for sure even in Future. They are only looking for money and not caring about quality hah ! They would have made a lot of profits with Victory Valkyrie breaks and I guess this time it's Zillion Zeus for sure !

I know Zillion Zeus Issues maybe fixed somehow only after they realise their mistakes but they never think this before I guess ?

No offence but two breaks already on the day of release was like not even expected but yeah I really wanna Know will it be the same in Corocoro Limited Zillion Zeus or will they fix it ?
I either see it as us not focusing on the fine condition dual layers or that I believe TT is a very take your money and run company although that would be a gross exaggeration even for me. With the track record of V2s breaking almost constantly all the time, we can only focus on the good V2s so much before the amount of breakages become significant. This layer has yet to be as frequent although it's only been a day or so, so now it's a wait and see game as it's still too early to tell what Z2 will be like overall, and if they'll address it, but considering they have yet to address X2, a layer from a very hyped up and well advertised beyblade, well...
Oh well, wasn't planning on using Z2, anyway. However, I'd like to see Z2. K. Y.
I agree though. I mean, TT does care.. but probably not as much. Having too many complaints about Burst breakages could of course affect their business anyway. If it does get to the point to when there's thousands of people reporting about breakages, I seriously hope TT will take action. They should be taking action no matter what the situation.
(Sep. 17, 2016  7:28 PM)Kei Wrote: [ -> ]
(Sep. 17, 2016  7:19 PM)MissingNo. Wrote: [ -> ]There is absolutely no excuse for this. When Plastics came out more than a decade ago, the designers didn't had the tools they have now, and yet the Attack Rings were much more durable than any Dual Layer. How can you explain that a decade old super aggressive Attack Ring like Driger S' or Dragoon GT's are still used today without breaking, but a Layer like Zillion Zeus' or Victory Valkyrie's can break in a matter of seconds ?

It's pretty obvious that Takara Tomy is just looking for money. They don't care about the product nor it's quality, and they recycle ''ideas'' from the past to avoid any possible effort. More breaks = more money, right ?

You're right in some ways, but there were also many Attack Rings in Plastics that were fragile too. And there's many Dual Layers that don't have breakage issues. It's also important to remember that things like this always seem worse because we hang on to a few reported breakages, but we don't hear about the hundreds or thousands of people who's parts might be fine.

And if they didn't care about the quality of the product, they wouldn't have issued fixes to things like Victory Valkyrie. It is in their best interests to care, otherwise they have to deal with sending out replacements to more people, which would hurt them financially. Of course however, there does seem to be some kind of issue for issues like this with Zillion Zeus being able to be released in a state that makes them susceptible to breaking (to whatever degree these two isolated examples implicates).

In probabilities, remember that there are most likely just as many breaks that we do not hear about online as fine situations we do not hear about. You cannot just assume that all the people not posting online experience no breaks at all either.

Someone correcting their mistake due to the high level of complaints is never someone who actually cared that much to begin with... And I think that the fact that these parts are getting released despite any sort of extended testing beforehand is a proof of this carelessness. Anybody trying these out for a while would have noticed and postponed the release.
So... I assume they are a "take your money and leave" company, like Sega :3

But seriously, Kai-V does make a very good point, people might not want to waste time showing their breaks onto the internet.
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