(Jan. 02, 2011 11:45 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ] (Jan. 02, 2011 10:35 PM)Nojo294 Wrote: [ -> ]Some suggestions... feel free to correct my thinking.
I think ray should be moved to the destabalizers as it has more success with lower track heights, in which case adding a 90 or 85 track to the destabalizer section would become an option.
I'll add it but i'm not gonna move it cause it does have attack ability. The others i'll add soon.
Libra is still tier one but as it is not legal maybe it should not be considered an option for competitive play... only for testing purposes. Rock is definitely not defense material, unless it is a hasbro version and even then 
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Rock still has some ability even if it isn't great...
BD145 should be in either tier 1/2 (I know further testing is required but for now... the list can always change when needed)
Needs more testing
That's pretty much it for now me thinkz...
if you have rock for defence then you should also put hasbros dark on as well, they are about par with each other when it comes to defence
Fine I will. I'm gonna make a big update tomorrow night. For now i've just updated the Destabilisers section a bit.
(Jan. 02, 2011 11:45 PM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ]Rock still has some ability even if it isn't great...
Not nearly enough to compete with Earth Mold 1 and Pisces as a defense wheel... I think you should make a tier 3 and put in Hasbro's dark as well. Also, may I ask what the point is in making tiers? Most of us only care about the top tiers...
for people without top tier parts?
^YES! So glad someone finally realises this and says it. That is the whole point of this thread. And to work out how good parts are compared to the top tier parts.
: Well i'm gonna do some testing on defence tier 2 wheels. Rock isn't tier 2 but personally I think Virgo and Pisces are trash at defence too but others don't and think they're good due to personal use. There's absolutely nothing to convince me that Pisces is good though cause no one's actually posted any testing on it apart from one person. When I do some testing i'll move them down.
Wait so this is for casual players then? Because people can not stay competitive with some of the parts mentioned in this thread. If they do not have the part, they must get it, it's that simple. For casual players though this works great.
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You've missed the point of what I said. This is for:
1)People who want to make a combo but don't have access to top tier parts/combos
2)As a ruling how parts compare to each other since for some parts no one had a clue about some of these that was written down as a resource for new members to look at.
We all see that, don't spam this thread as much please.
(Jan. 03, 2011 2:07 AM)REIDRIGER105 Wrote: [ -> ]VULCAN GOES TO TEIR 1!!!!!!!
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(Jan. 03, 2011 2:09 AM)Ultrablader Wrote: [ -> ]Written down as a resource for new members to look at.
True... you have a good point there. So you mean to make this thread as a reference point for new ones to use as a guide? Then it would make sense.
I think you should switch the 5 minute mold Virgo to be 1st, then Burn and Earth? And also with WD and SD.
I'm quite surprised with DF145 is in tier 2, and 145 is second on tier 1.
Aw Dang they Found out counter was Top Tier :L
(Jan. 03, 2011 3:16 AM)A Wrote: [ -> ]I think you should switch the 5 minute mold Virgo to be 1st, then Burn and Earth? And also with WD and SD.
I'm quite surprised with DF145 is in tier 2, and 145 is second on tier 1.
1. he didnt do best top tier part to worst top tier part, he just put all the parts in there respective tier
2. wd and sd are same in performance
3. df145 is not as good as 145
(Jan. 03, 2011 4:28 AM)Holyblades Wrote: [ -> ]Aw Dang they Found out counter was Top Tier :L
no it isnt, what are you talking about?
oh i think you should put bakushin* into 2 tier for both defence and attack
*sorry if spelt wrong
(Jan. 03, 2011 3:16 AM)A Wrote: [ -> ]I think you should switch the 5 minute mold Virgo to be 1st, then Burn and Earth? And also with WD and SD.
I'm quite surprised with DF145 is in tier 2, and 145 is second on tier 1.
There are no order to the tiers. Also no one even uses DF145 unless they have to since it's not as good as 145/AD145/100/90/85.
(Jan. 03, 2011 4:28 AM)Holyblades Wrote: [ -> ]Aw Dang they Found out counter was Top Tier :L
What are you talking about? It's in tier 3 for attack which is the tier for things which have some slight attack ability but are still pretty useless. Leone could be top tier I guess. But testing is needed.
wow i´m surprised! so is Earth of Hasbro better than Burn of Hasbro? can you send me the link that show conclusive tests of that please? thanks
It's mainly talking about Takara actually. If you're talking about hasbro then it gets much more complicated due to which molds they use. I'm pretty sure all hasbro Earth wheels are mold 2 so it would depend on what mold Burn hasbro uses.
Also you might want to add Hasbro's rock wheel. It has more mold and its heavier than the TT rock wheels.
I don't have a takara rock but rock is already listed on all three types.
(Jan. 03, 2011 4:37 AM)lord Wolfblade Wrote: [ -> ]oh i think you should put bakushin* into 2 tier for both defence, attack, stamina
*sorry if spelt wrong
this and
also you should remove rock from stamina, it may have the best solo spin time but flame and bakushin are better than it
It still has use which is what this is about....
ok, but you should still add bakushin
A lot more testing is needed.
In that the case I Can Do Counter Testing