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(Jul. 25, 2020  4:15 PM)Needforspeed Wrote: [ -> ]MFB 4D remakes Speculation

Big bang pegasis Sting Ultimate reboot'
L-Drago destroyer Generate
Fang leone Ratchet Mobius,has sharp Tip in the middle
Phantom orion around Bearing
Variares Blitz Zeta'
Jade jupiter 0 Expand Keep'
Death Quetzalcoatl 7 lift Wave
Scythe Kronos 00G Gyro
Mercury anubius 0Glaive Massive
Flash saggatario 10C Yielding , idk what tha heck they going to do with 230 in burst So i just put Y
Diablo Nemesis Trick, layer+ disc to make the second mode possible

Super hard to predict the disc

Probably come in a remake set named legendary bladers set
These seem like realistic combos. But I think we're only gonna get 5 or 6 remakes this coming season (5 in an anniversary set and 1 next February assuming a random booster featuring a remake as a prize bey. Now Pegasus and L-Drago no doubt would be among those in a set. The only beys I feel could claim the other 3 slots are 3 of the following: Leone (we had Rock Leone and is a very relevant Legendary bey), Variares (It's a dual spin legendary bey so they could use this to promote a dual spin launcher like they did with Destroyer), and Orion (While it wasn't as key till the 3rd quarter of the season, it's got a key role in the season and if Leone, L-Drago, and Pegasus are in this, then Orion would complete the Four Seasons group of Legendary Beys). Now Nemesis should absolutely be in this but every anniversary set besides the very first season has had 5 beys per set. The only reason that was different then was among the 9 beys, 8 of them were the first two main stages for Draciel, Dragoon, Dranzer, and Driger. So I'm not certain all relevant beys in Metal Fury will come December 2021 and it's either the 4 season beys plus (Nemesis who would be in that category as an Autumn bey like Pegasus) or they have one of them replaced with a solar system bey (hence Variares as that would be the one to make most advertisment for a dual spin launcher as I said). So I don't know what will happen. But I can say that whatever this set ends up being, I'm betting on Pegasus, Leone, L-Drago, Variares, Nemesis, and or Orion.
Did you know that the Turbo/Super-z show shows a gimick for the Rise/GT series? look at dread hades for proof
(Jan. 28, 2021  8:48 PM)micksterfist Wrote: [ -> ]Did you know that the Turbo/Super-z show shows a gimick for the Rise/GT series? look at dread hades for proof

Dread Hades just has the turn frame nothing so special about that.
(Jan. 28, 2021  8:53 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 28, 2021  8:48 PM)micksterfist Wrote: [ -> ]Did you know that the Turbo/Super-z show shows a gimick for the Rise/GT series? look at dread hades for proof

Dread Hades just has the turn frame nothing so special about that.

Not the frame, the Energy Layer, with the six hexagons around the outside and the one in the center!
(Jan. 29, 2021  2:08 PM)micksterfist Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 28, 2021  8:53 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Dread Hades just has the turn frame nothing so special about that.

Not the frame, the Energy Layer, with the six hexagons around the outside and the one in the center!

There’s nothing so special with that. That’s not a rise gimmick at all.
I'll join the party why not

Cosmic Pegasus 00Glaive Ultimate Reboot
Fang Leone Jerk Revolve
Flash Saggitario 7 High Survive
L-Drago Destructor Generate
Diablo Nemesis Around Trick

Dragoon V2 Wheel Xtreme
Dranzer V2 Gravity Reboot
Draciel V2 00Glaive Loop
Driger V2 Upper Accel
Flash Leopard 4 Assault

Chose Jerk cause it's shape reminds me of Fang defense mode.
It infers to the customize-able layer weights.
(Jan. 29, 2021  3:59 PM)micksterfist Wrote: [ -> ]It infers to the customize-able  layer weights.

How?????? It was just a nice pattern on Hades.
look at the exact placements of each
Ok so here's how I think they'll be ranked 1 is best 5 is worst

1. L-Drago Destructor Generate
2. Fang Leone Jerk Revolve
3. Cosmic Pegasus 00Glaive Ultimate Reboot
4. Flash Saggitario 7 High Survive
5. Diablo Nemesis Around Trick

As much as I want Diablo to be #1 it'll most likely have Trick and when has Trick ever been good.
High Survive is very fitting for Flash but at the same time it's just decent.
Same thing with Flash, fitting but could be better.
Jerk is meh but I have a feeling they'll do Fang very well making for solid defense.
Generate is a great driver and L-Drago should be pretty high priority.
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:14 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Ok so here's how I think they'll be ranked 1 is best 5 is worst

1. L-Drago Destructor Generate
2. Fang Leone Jerk Revolve
3. Cosmic Pegasus 00Glaive Ultimate Reboot
4. Flash Saggitario 7 High Survive
5. Diablo Nemesis Around Trick

As much as I want Diablo to be #1 it'll most likely have Trick and when has Trick ever been good.
High Survive is very fitting for Flash but at the same time it's just decent.
Same thing with Flash, fitting but could be better.
Jerk is meh but I have a feeling they'll do Fang very well making for solid defense.
Generate is a great driver and L-Drago should be pretty high priority.

Issues:
On Sagittario high yielding is more likely due to yielding being used as WD. Don’t see Fang would have a disk from the second line of burst beys. Trick doesn’t account for the entire Diablo experience (hence why if they did do trick I think that a + chip is much more likely).
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:41 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:14 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Ok so here's how I think they'll be ranked 1 is best 5 is worst

1. L-Drago Destructor Generate
2. Fang Leone Jerk Revolve
3. Cosmic Pegasus 00Glaive Ultimate Reboot
4. Flash Saggitario 7 High Survive
5. Diablo Nemesis Around Trick

As much as I want Diablo to be #1 it'll most likely have Trick and when has Trick ever been good.
High Survive is very fitting for Flash but at the same time it's just decent.
Same thing with Flash, fitting but could be better.
Jerk is meh but I have a feeling they'll do Fang very well making for solid defense.
Generate is a great driver and L-Drago should be pretty high priority.

Issues:
On Sagittario high yielding is more likely due to yielding being used as WD. Don’t see Fang would have a disk from the second line of burst beys. Trick doesn’t account for the entire Diablo experience (hence why if they did do trick I think that a + chip is much more likely).
Well the main draw of the tip is that it's tall and yielding is an average sized driver. As for Trick, they aren't gonna add a new part for a remake and trick is close enough.
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:49 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:41 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Issues:
On Sagittario high yielding is more likely due to yielding being used as WD. Don’t see Fang would have a disk from the second line of burst beys. Trick doesn’t account for the entire Diablo experience (hence why if they did do trick I think that a + chip is much more likely).
Well the main draw of the tip is that it's tall and yielding is an average sized driver. As for Trick, they aren't gonna add a new part for a remake and trick is close enough.

Trick is far from close enough, also they added a new part for Pegasus. Furthermore we have a new season coming so I would keep the driver on Diablo as a “?”. Trick doesn’t fit Diablo because the way that XD works is that on ultra balance mode the wheel will pick up the tabs to change the mode when the wheel rotates, also this version of XD doesn’t happen on the regular mode or any other bey (making Trick even less likely and something like Xtend+ or anything with 3 modes much more likely). In conclusion trick is a bad fit since it just doesn’t fit the description of XD.
Time for something very random lol:
Set: Triple Flare Booster Set
Brand: Hasbro
Gen: Surge
Includes: Helios Blazebringer, Hyperion Flamebringer, Lucius Ending
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:56 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:49 PM)Eclipse Force Wrote: [ -> ]Well the main draw of the tip is that it's tall and yielding is an average sized driver. As for Trick, they aren't gonna add a new part for a remake and trick is close enough.

Trick is far from close enough, also they added a new part for Pegasus. Furthermore we have a new season coming so I would keep the driver on Diablo as a “?”. Trick doesn’t fit Diablo because the way that XD works is that on ultra balance mode the wheel will pick up the tabs to change the mode when the wheel rotates, also this version of XD doesn’t happen on the regular mode or any other bey (making Trick even less likely and something like Xtend+ or anything with 3 modes much more likely). In conclusion trick is a bad fit since it just doesn’t fit the description of XD.

Again, if they don't make the correct driver for Galaxy (just be reversing Jolt) they will be very content with just Trick. Remakes usually do not get new parts, so Trick is highly likely. Quick' was also an easy change, so they decided to go with it. This one actually requires work.
(Jan. 31, 2021  8:25 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  7:56 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]Trick is far from close enough, also they added a new part for Pegasus. Furthermore we have a new season coming so I would keep the driver on Diablo as a “?”. Trick doesn’t fit Diablo because the way that XD works is that on ultra balance mode the wheel will pick up the tabs to change the mode when the wheel rotates, also this version of XD doesn’t happen on the regular mode or any other bey (making Trick even less likely and something like Xtend+ or anything with 3 modes much more likely). In conclusion trick is a bad fit since it just doesn’t fit the description of XD.

Again, if they don't make the correct driver for Galaxy (just be reversing Jolt) they will be very content with just Trick. Remakes usually do not get new parts, so Trick is highly likely. Quick' was also an easy change, so they decided to go with it. This one actually requires work.

XD is quite simple to make especially with previous design models. Furthermore you are saying trick because you have only considered ultra balance as the only mode and not the attack mode (which was more heavily advertised and is the superior mode). I don’t think you quite understand the mechanics of trick and XD
(Jan. 31, 2021  9:21 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  8:25 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Again, if they don't make the correct driver for Galaxy (just be reversing Jolt) they will be very content with just Trick. Remakes usually do not get new parts, so Trick is highly likely. Quick' was also an easy change, so they decided to go with it. This one actually requires work.

XD is quite simple to make especially with previous design models. Furthermore you are saying trick because you have only considered ultra balance as the only mode and not the attack mode (which was more heavily advertised and is the superior mode). I don’t think you quite understand the mechanics of trick and XD

I never stated that I didn't know the mechanics of XD or Trick. What I DO know is that Burst follows way different rules than MFB. Both the drivers have a point where they change modes in battle, albeit in Nemesis' balance mode. They wouldn't waste their time trying to get the perfect version of XD when they could slap Trick and be done with it.
(Jan. 31, 2021  10:39 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  9:21 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]XD is quite simple to make especially with previous design models. Furthermore you are saying trick because you have only considered ultra balance as the only mode and not the attack mode (which was more heavily advertised and is the superior mode). I don’t think you quite understand the mechanics of trick and XD

I never stated that I didn't know the mechanics of XD or Trick. What I DO know is that Burst follows way different rules than MFB. Both the drivers have a point where they change modes in battle, albeit in Nemesis' balance mode. They wouldn't waste their time trying to get the perfect version of XD when they could slap Trick and be done with it.

And please explain why they would use the ultimate balance mode instead of the attack mode?
(Jan. 31, 2021  10:40 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  10:39 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]I never stated that I didn't know the mechanics of XD or Trick. What I DO know is that Burst follows way different rules than MFB. Both the drivers have a point where they change modes in battle, albeit in Nemesis' balance mode. They wouldn't waste their time trying to get the perfect version of XD when they could slap Trick and be done with it.

And please explain why they would use the ultimate balance mode instead of the attack mode?

Ultimate Balance Mode was Nemesis' main jig. Better to replicate that or just implement a metal wheel change like they did for Gravity or Meteo. However, they wouldn't need to recreate the exact same driver. Last time I checked, these are BURST remakes, not rereleases.
(Jan. 31, 2021  10:44 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  10:40 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]And please explain why they would use the ultimate balance mode instead of the attack mode?

Ultimate Balance Mode was Nemesis' main jig. Better to replicate that or just implement a metal wheel change like they did for Gravity or Meteo. However, they wouldn't need to recreate the exact same driver. Last time I checked, these are BURST remakes, not rereleases.

Ultimate Balance was never used and not as heavily advertised as attack mode. Ultimate Balance was kind of just there as something to have fun with while attack mode was what everyone was using. Also we have a sixth season coming which you kind of forgot about, maybe we’ll get something like XD there. Also for shape just looks much closer than trick.
(Jan. 31, 2021  10:48 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Jan. 31, 2021  10:44 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: [ -> ]Ultimate Balance Mode was Nemesis' main jig. Better to replicate that or just implement a metal wheel change like they did for Gravity or Meteo. However, they wouldn't need to recreate the exact same driver. Last time I checked, these are BURST remakes, not rereleases.

Ultimate Balance was never used and not as heavily advertised as attack mode. Ultimate Balance was kind of just there as something to have fun with while attack mode was what everyone was using. Also we have a sixth season coming which you kind of forgot about, maybe we’ll get something like XD there. Also for shape just looks much closer than trick.

Attack mode may be the more competitive one, but that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. The main point I have here is that the chances of getting an XD remake are pretty low since they have Trick in store.
I seriously want Dranzer GT and Dragoon GT to get remade
(Feb. 01, 2021  4:50 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I seriously want Dranzer GT and Dragoon GT to get remade

I think you are not the only one
(Feb. 01, 2021  4:52 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: [ -> ]
(Feb. 01, 2021  4:50 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]I seriously want Dranzer GT and Dragoon GT to get remade

I think you are not the only one

Am I hearing this correctly?
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(Feb. 01, 2021  4:53 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: [ -> ]
(Feb. 01, 2021  4:52 PM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: [ -> ]I think you are not the only one

Am I hearing this correctly?
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IDK, im not there to know if you heard or not