(Feb. 10, 2021  12:10 AM)Kaden_Hoot Wrote: [font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] (カース, [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Kāsu[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]) is a [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Ring[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] released by [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Takara Tomy[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as part of the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Burst System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as well as the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Superking Layer System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]. It debuted in Japan with the release of the B-164 [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Random Booster Vol. 20[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] on April 25th, 2020.[/font]


[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Description[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a round defense-type ring with 5 rollers on the edges that are supposed to deflect attacks.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Unlike its predecessor, Kreis Satan, the rollers are big and easy to hit, and actually deflect hits instead of creating recoil.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The rollers add to the round shape and will make sound when hit. [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The shape of the blades is compact and the overall shape is round, making it a good choice for defense and giving it [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]good life-after-death.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]There have been a few cases when the rollers have broken off.[/font]

[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Overall[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a great choice for defense and the rollers work as intended, without holding back the ring, and the round shape gives it life-after-death.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]As such, it is a must have for competitive bladers.[/font]

(Feb. 10, 2021  2:41 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Feb. 10, 2021  12:10 AM)Kaden_Hoot Wrote: [font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] (カース, [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Kāsu[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]) is a [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Ring[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] released by [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Takara Tomy[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as part of the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Burst System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as well as the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Superking Layer System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]. It debuted in Japan with the release of the B-164 [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Random Booster Vol. 20[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] on April 25th, 2020.[/font]


[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Description[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a round defense-type ring with 5 rollers on the edges that are supposed to deflect attacks.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Unlike its predecessor, Kreis Satan, the rollers are big and easy to hit, and actually deflect hits instead of creating recoil.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The rollers add to the round shape and will make sound when hit. [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The shape of the blades is compact and the overall shape is round, making it a good choice for defense and giving it [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]good life-after-death.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]There have been a few cases when the rollers have broken off.[/font]

[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Overall[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a great choice for defense and the rollers work as intended without holding back the ring, and the round shape gives it life-after-death, but is outclassed by other defensive layers like Poison, Or [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]As such, it is a must have for competitive bladers.[/font]

I don't think Curse is a must have, since it's outclassed by Tempest, Brave, Master, World, Mirage, and a lot of other things. It could be a decent addition to a collectors set though. Curse's rollers don't seem to reflect damage as good as you say, otherwise it would be GOD tier in tournaments. Not saying that this is completely wrong, but from what I've seen, it's not the most accurate.

Ok! I'll change it to this:


[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] (カース, [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Kāsu[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]) is a [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Ring[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] released by [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Takara Tomy[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as part of the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Burst System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as well as the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Superking Layer System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]. It debuted in Japan with the release of the B-164 [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Random Booster Vol. 20[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] on April 25th, 2020.[/font]


[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Description[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a round defense-type ring with 5 rollers on the edges that are supposed to deflect attacks.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Unlike its predecessor, Kreis Satan, the rollers are big and easy to hit, and actually deflect hits instead of creating recoil.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The rollers add to the round shape and will make sound when hit. [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The shape of the blades is compact and the overall shape is round, making it a good choice for defense and giving it [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]good life-after-death.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]There have been a few cases when the rollers have broken off.[/font]

[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Overall[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a great choice for defense and the rollers work as intended without holding back the ring, and the round shape gives it life-after-death, but is outclassed by other defensive layers like Poison, Orb Egis, and more.
[/font]As such, it is a welcome addition to a blader's collection.

(Feb. 10, 2021  8:52 PM)Kaden_Hoot Wrote:

(Feb. 10, 2021  2:41 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: I don't think Curse is a must have, since it's outclassed by Tempest, Brave, Master, World, Mirage, and a lot of other things. It could be a decent addition to a collectors set though. Curse's rollers don't seem to reflect damage as good as you say, otherwise it would be GOD tier in tournaments. Not saying that this is completely wrong, but from what I've seen, it's not the most accurate.

Ok! I'll change it to this:


[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] (カース, [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Kāsu[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]) is a [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Ring[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] released by [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Takara Tomy[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as part of the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Burst System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as well as the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Superking Layer System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]. It debuted in Japan with the release of the B-164 [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Random Booster Vol. 20[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] on April 25th, 2020.[/font]


[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Description[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a round defense-type ring with 5 rollers on the edges that are supposed to deflect attacks.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Unlike its predecessor, Kreis Satan, the rollers are big and easy to hit, and actually deflect hits instead of creating recoil.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The rollers add to the round shape and will make sound when hit. [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The shape of the blades is compact and the overall shape is round, making it a good choice for defense and giving it [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]good life-after-death.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]There have been a few cases when the rollers have broken off.[/font]

[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Overall[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a great choice for defense and the rollers work as intended without holding back the ring, and the round shape gives it life-after-death, but is outclassed by other defensive layers like Poison, Orb Egis, and more.
[/font]As such, it is a welcome addition to a blader's collection.

(Feb. 10, 2021  9:56 PM)PeppzieCola Wrote: Nah, Curse is a much better defense ring than Orb and Poison, also Orb Egis is outclassed by a lot of GT and Sparking defense bases, like Bushin, Regalia and Big Bang, Tempest, etc. Imo, it should say, "but is outclassed by other layers such as Brave Valkyrie, Rage Longinus, Tempest Dragon, and more."

(Feb. 10, 2021  9:56 PM)PeppzieCola Wrote: Nah, Curse is a much better defense ring than Orb and Poison, also Orb Egis is outclassed by a lot of GT and Sparking defense bases, like Bushin, Regalia and Big Bang, Tempest, etc. Imo, it should say, "but is outclassed by other layers such as Brave Valkyrie, Rage Longinus, Tempest Dragon, and more."

(Feb. 10, 2021  10:49 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: is the master base still competitive?

(Feb. 10, 2021  10:49 PM)TheRogueBlader Wrote: is the master base still competitive?

(Feb. 10, 2021  11:09 PM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: I read somewhere that Curse had bad stamina. Is that true?

(Feb. 10, 2021  11:03 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:

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(Feb. 10, 2021  12:10 AM)Kaden_Hoot Wrote: [font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] (カース, [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Kāsu[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]) is a [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Ring[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] released by [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Takara Tomy[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as part of the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Burst System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] as well as the [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Superking Layer System[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]. It debuted in Japan with the release of the B-164 [/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Random Booster Vol. 20[/font][font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] on April 25th, 2020.[/font]


[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Description[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a round defense-type ring with 5 rollers on the edges that are supposed to deflect attacks.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Unlike its predecessor, Kreis Satan, the rollers are big and easy to hit, and actually deflect hits instead of creating recoil.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The rollers add to the round shape and will make sound when hit. [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]The shape of the blades is compact and the overall shape is round, making it a good choice for defense and giving it [/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]good life-after-death.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]There have been a few cases when the rollers have broken off.[/font]

[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Overall[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]Curse is a great choice for defense and the rollers work as intended, without holding back the ring, and the round shape gives it life-after-death.[/font]
[font="Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]As such, it is a must have for competitive bladers.[/font]

Curse is certainly not outclassed by Orb Egis and Poison. It’s compatibility with chassis like 2D make it a great pure defense option that’s definitely better for defense than Orb Egis and Poison.

(Feb. 10, 2021  10:29 PM)Hollowmind8 Wrote:

(Feb. 10, 2021  9:56 PM)PeppzieCola Wrote: Nah, Curse is a much better defense ring than Orb and Poison, also Orb Egis is outclassed by a lot of GT and Sparking defense bases, like Bushin, Regalia and Big Bang, Tempest, etc. Imo, it should say, "but is outclassed by other layers such as Brave Valkyrie, Rage Longinus, Tempest Dragon, and more."

Actually i think that it should be compared with defense rings like jet.

(Feb. 11, 2021  9:50 PM)GrinAndBarrett Wrote: This seems to imply that Jet is a top tier ring which it is not.  The description should compare the ring to the existing best in class rings, which is not Jet.  For right spin stamina it is Tempest.  For right spin spin equalization it is World.  Curse is a "welcome addition" instead of a "must have" because it is outclassed by the "must haves" which Jet is not.

(Feb. 11, 2021  10:01 PM)The Blacknight Wrote:

(Feb. 11, 2021  9:50 PM)GrinAndBarrett Wrote: This seems to imply that Jet is a top tier ring which it is not.  The description should compare the ring to the existing best in class rings, which is not Jet.  For right spin stamina it is Tempest.  For right spin spin equalization it is World.  Curse is a "welcome addition" instead of a "must have" because it is outclassed by the "must haves" which Jet is not.

Well, I sorta agree. Jet is actually alright. master, world, brave, and mirage definitely outclass it in Defense, but I think it has its place. 

As an owner of curse, I can safely say it is the most mediocre sparking ring, sorta like ace the ace of sparking. Usable? Yes. Recommended? No.

(Jun. 11, 2021  1:43 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:

(Feb. 11, 2021  10:01 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: Well, I sorta agree. Jet is actually alright. master, world, brave, and mirage definitely outclass it in Defense, but I think it has its place. 

As an owner of curse, I can safely say it is the most mediocre sparking ring, sorta like ace the ace of sparking. Usable? Yes. Recommended? No.

I beg to differ.
1. I own curse and I would say that the rollers help absorb recoil very well. Even against Rage it can generally tank the shots well depending on the driver.
2. The ring increases burst resistance and is useful e.g. Curse Lc1 Bearing 2D, extremely difficult to burst.
3. Curse has proabably less than World stamina but around the same as Mirage. The reason mirage is good is due to the rubber, but the raw stamina is probably as good as Curse.
4. The Sam gimmick that increases burst resistance also increases LAD.
So at the I would say Curse is very versatile. Its probably a must have that you bring out depending on the circumstances

(Jun. 11, 2021  5:33 PM)The Blacknight Wrote:

(Jun. 11, 2021  1:43 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote: I beg to differ.
1. I own curse and I would say that the rollers help absorb recoil very well. Even against Rage it can generally tank the shots well depending on the driver.
2. The ring increases burst resistance and is useful e.g. Curse Lc1 Bearing 2D, extremely difficult to burst.
3. Curse has proabably less than World stamina but around the same as Mirage. The reason mirage is good is due to the rubber, but the raw stamina is probably as good as Curse.
4. The Sam gimmick that increases burst resistance also increases LAD.
So at the I would say Curse is very versatile. Its probably a must have that you bring out depending on the circumstances

lol this was old, but whatever

1.the plastic rollers do nothing, even if they were bigger and protruded more, the plastic doesn't create enough friction to deflect the bey. If the rollers were bigger, rubber, and had a downward slope(for destabilization, as when the bey catches on to the rollers, it would move at an angle, destabilizing the bey and sending it to the side), then it would be useful.
2. Thats a recipe for disaster. literally any fafnir or longinus stock gt+ would kill that, and 2D makes it easily outspun. that's a heavy combo, and because of the way sparking is, essentially everything but the driver(with a double chassis) is the layer, and since 2D and Lucifer are especially heavy, slow motion bursts and self bursts would be more than common. and 2D scrapes.
3. true, but mirages rubber is a failsafe to give it stamina, making it better. no one would use mirage against a decent left, at least competitively. curse doesn't have that fail safe.
4. If ur talking about the free spin... no. just no. that literally does nothing. 


these are the sparking rings worse than curse: variant, king, Burn, and maybe death and no armor inf. curse is just one of those beys who have gimmicks that don't work irl. tbh, wizard, rock, bushin, slash, and possibly grand, regalia, normal apocalypse, dread, Imperial, and heaven are worse. curse is basically a very good gt ring with a terrible gimmick. to be fair, lord and master also are/used to be good, but curse was mediocre and is now bad.

(Jul. 31, 2021  3:32 AM)[[ NØBØDY ]] Wrote:

(Jun. 11, 2021  5:33 PM)The Blacknight Wrote: lol this was old, but whatever

1.the plastic rollers do nothing, even if they were bigger and protruded more, the plastic doesn't create enough friction to deflect the bey. If the rollers were bigger, rubber, and had a downward slope(for destabilization, as when the bey catches on to the rollers, it would move at an angle, destabilizing the bey and sending it to the side), then it would be useful.
2. Thats a recipe for disaster. literally any fafnir or longinus stock gt+ would kill that, and 2D makes it easily outspun. that's a heavy combo, and because of the way sparking is, essentially everything but the driver(with a double chassis) is the layer, and since 2D and Lucifer are especially heavy, slow motion bursts and self bursts would be more than common. and 2D scrapes.
3. true, but mirages rubber is a failsafe to give it stamina, making it better. no one would use mirage against a decent left, at least competitively. curse doesn't have that fail safe.
4. If ur talking about the free spin... no. just no. that literally does nothing. 


these are the sparking rings worse than curse: variant, king, Burn, and maybe death and no armor inf. curse is just one of those beys who have gimmicks that don't work irl. tbh, wizard, rock, bushin, slash, and possibly grand, regalia, normal apocalypse, dread, Imperial, and heaven are worse. curse is basically a very good gt ring with a terrible gimmick. to be fair, lord and master also are/used to be good, but curse was mediocre and is now bad.

Curse gimmick does work. I used it myself in tourneys. The 2D combo is for Opp spin, and it can tie very well with popular combos. The bringing up of the chassis improves burst resistance and LAD for some drivers.