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Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - BuilderROB - Jul. 22, 2020
A testing and discussion thread for Shining Amaterios in Limited. Feel free to request matchups as well as your own testing.
Testing:
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RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - SunBlader98 - Aug. 04, 2020
Shining Ametireos 0 Meteor Quick' Vs Arc Bahumut Aero' Bearing
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - Logic123ABC - Aug. 04, 2020
(Aug. 04, 2020 6:39 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Shining Ametireos 0 Meteor Quick' Vs Arc Bahumut Aero' Bearing
Aero' is REALLY light. Try substituting it with 0/00 wall
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - SunBlader98 - Aug. 04, 2020
(Aug. 04, 2020 6:57 PM)Logic123ABC Wrote:(Aug. 04, 2020 6:39 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Shining Ametireos 0 Meteor Quick' Vs Arc Bahumut Aero' Bearing
Aero' is REALLY light. Try substituting it with 0/00 wall
Aero' is needed for burst resitants
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - Logic123ABC - Aug. 04, 2020
(Aug. 04, 2020 6:57 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote:(Aug. 04, 2020 6:57 PM)Logic123ABC Wrote: Aero' is REALLY light. Try substituting it with 0/00 wall
Aero' is needed for burst resitants
Really the hinder is too big a risk, and Arcs teeth are already bad enough that it won't make a substantial difference in burst risk if you kept aero'.
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - AirKingNeo - Sep. 05, 2020
did a same spin test to see what kinda of stamina Shining Amaterios has.
Shining Amaterios.Outer.Orbit vs Twin Nemesis.Outer.Orbit (def mode, the one with the gold showing)
sA.outer.O: 7 wins (7 OS)
tN.outer.O: 3 wins (3 OS)
Ties: 0
I'm not comfortable with a layer have better teeth, defense, and now stamina than Twin Nemesis.
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - SunBlader98 - Sep. 05, 2020
(Sep. 05, 2020 3:10 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote: did a same spin test to see what kinda of stamina Shining Amaterios has.Yeah I am worried too let's see how it does against some other dangerous Beys in limited
Shining Amaterios.Outer.Orbit vs Twin Nemesis.Outer.Orbit (def mode, the one with the gold showing)
sA.outer.O: 7 wins (7 OS)
tN.outer.O: 3 wins (3 OS)
Ties: 0
I'm not comfortable with a layer have better teeth, defense, and now stamina than Twin Nemesis.
Hercules H4 0 Cross Absorb-S Vs Shadow Amaterios 7 Meteor Atomic
Bloody Longinus Generate vs Shadow Amaterios Outer Orbit
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - AirKingNeo - Sep. 05, 2020
(Sep. 05, 2020 3:20 AM)SunBlader98 Wrote:(Sep. 05, 2020 3:10 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote: did a same spin test to see what kinda of stamina Shining Amaterios has.Yeah I am worried too let's see how it does against some other dangerous Beys in limited
Shining Amaterios.Outer.Orbit vs Twin Nemesis.Outer.Orbit (def mode, the one with the gold showing)
sA.outer.O: 7 wins (7 OS)
tN.outer.O: 3 wins (3 OS)
Ties: 0
I'm not comfortable with a layer have better teeth, defense, and now stamina than Twin Nemesis.
Hercules H4 0 Cross Absorb-S Vs Shadow Amaterios 7 Meteor Atomic
Bloody Longinus Generate vs Shadow Amaterios Outer Orbit
but that's not how this works. You don't put "variable group" against "variable group". You put control group against variable group.
aH4 is variable group. Generate is variable group. Shining/Shadow Amaterios is variable group.
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - SunBlader98 - Sep. 05, 2020
(Sep. 05, 2020 3:48 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote:(Sep. 05, 2020 3:20 AM)SunBlader98 Wrote: Yeah I am worried too let's see how it does against some other dangerous Beys in limited
Hercules H4 0 Cross Absorb-S Vs Shadow Amaterios 7 Meteor Atomic
Bloody Longinus Generate vs Shadow Amaterios Outer Orbit
but that's not how this works. You don't put "variable group" against "variable group". You put control group against variable group.
aH4 is variable group. Generate is variable group. Shining/Shadow Amaterios is variable group.
I have no idea what you said!
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - AirKingNeo - Sep. 09, 2020
(Sep. 05, 2020 3:10 AM)AirKingNeo Wrote: did a same spin test to see what kinda of stamina Shining Amaterios has.
Shining Amaterios.Outer.Orbit vs Twin Nemesis.Outer.Orbit (def mode, the one with the gold showing)
sA.outer.O: 7 wins (7 OS)
tN.outer.O: 3 wins (3 OS)
Ties: 0
I'm not comfortable with a layer have better teeth, defense, and now stamina than Twin Nemesis.
Ok I redid this test since apparently smash mode is bad and I should use upper mode because it can destabilize opponents.
Shining Amaterios.Outer.Orbit vs Twin Nemesis.Outer.Orbit (Upper Mode)
sA.outer.O: 6 wins (6 OS)
tN.outer.O: 4 wins (3 OS, 1 KO)
Ties: 1
RE: Shining Amaterios Testing and Discussion - AirKingNeo - Nov. 07, 2020
Ok I finally got around to comparing Shining Amaterios' defensive power to Alter Chronos'. I might be worth it to compare sA to Grand in defense.
From my attack comparison test for tN and sX vs aC:
Quote:Twin Nemesis.00Bump.Quick' vs Alter Chronos.00Proof.Atomic
(tN launched second)
tN.00B.Qc': 4 wins (3 KO, 1 BF)
aC.00P.At: 6 wins (5 OS, 1 BF)
Ties: 1 (double burst)
Sieg Xcalibur.00Bump.Quick' vs Alter Chronos.00Proof.Atomic
(sX launched second)
sX.00B.Qc': 4 wins (3 KO, 1 BF)
aC.00P.At: 6 wins (5 OS, 1 KO)
Ties: 0
Twin Nemesis.00Bump.Quick' vs Shining Amaterios.00Proof.Atomic
(tN launched second)
tN.00B.Qc': 2 wins (2 KO)
sA.00P.At: 8 wins (7 OS, 1 BF)
Ties: 0
Note: yeah tN's small, random chance to burst comes in sometimes.
Sieg Xcalibur.00Bump.Quick' vs Shining Amaterios.00Proof.Atomic
(sX launched second)
sX.00B.Qc': 2 wins (2 KO)
sA.00P.At: 8 wins (6 OS, 2 KO)
Ties: 0
Notes: sometimes when you hit a wall, the wall hits back harder.