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RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - onyx blader - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 10:42 AM)Battleburst Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 9:46 AM)RedPanda2 Wrote: it does seem interesting, especially because it’s a tall driver.
who knows, maybe this will be a nice driver for Lift.
it’s also heavy, looks like Sword will be the heaviest one yet.
Also I would be nice on tn,and omega has way more metal,I don’t think so this has more weight
Also buster Excalibur on sword out spined ef easily ,guess tn smash mode on sword will be epic tornado stall slash smash attack
You mean Octa from orichalcum right because there's no Omega driver
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - ClearWing R34 - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 7:28 AM)Adarsh Abhinav Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 7:26 AM)LOL-y Rancher Wrote: From what I can see, the locked mode is actually more balanced than the other mode so I guess having differences in spin tests is pretty cool. It also outspun eF stock with the locked mode and knocked it out.
It doesn't really burst anything so far but that's just one video.
Yeah, Also It's 11 August already In japan? or he got early//
Boi I know as a fact it japan isn't ahead of time because I live in Australia and Australia is a few hours a head of Japan so no
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Suhasini - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 11:33 AM)ClearWing R34 Wrote:Agreed. The person has got it early. I don't know from where do these people get it even before the official release..(Aug. 09, 2018 7:28 AM)Adarsh Abhinav Wrote: Yeah, Also It's 11 August already In japan? or he got early//
Boi I know as a fact it japan isn't ahead of time because I live in Australia and Australia is a few hours a head of Japan so no
@[Adarsh Abhinav], Japan and India have around the same timing, Japan is just 3 hours and 30 mins of India. But did you post in a joking way or were you serious about that?
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Jinbee - Aug. 09, 2018
My thoughts:
Buster Xcalibur - The layer is definitely lighter than I thought, I thought it would at least pass the 20 grams mark but not quite. The attack power so far doesn't seem all that great, but it's still only one video. The sword isn't spring loaded like I would expect.
1' - This is heavier than I thought, but then again 1 only weighed around 21 grams so making it heavier would make sense.
Sword - It's about as Heavy as I expected and more aggressive than I would imagine on Xcalibur.
Overall, the balance sometimes seems better than the previous Xcaliburs, it could outspin Forneus which is impressive but again doesn't seem to demonstrate amazing attack so far but it is just stock so...
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Battleburst - Aug. 09, 2018
What is the weight of 1’
(Aug. 09, 2018 11:26 AM)onyx blader Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 10:42 AM)Battleburst Wrote: Also I would be nice on tn,and omega has way more metal,I don’t think so this has more weight
Also buster Excalibur on sword out spined ef easily ,guess tn smash mode on sword will be epic tornado stall slash smash attack
You mean Octa from orichalcum right because there's no Omega driver
Ya I meant octa
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - RedPanda2 - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 10:42 AM)Battleburst Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 9:46 AM)RedPanda2 Wrote: it does seem interesting, especially because it’s a tall driver.
who knows, maybe this will be a nice driver for Lift.
it’s also heavy, looks like Sword will be the heaviest one yet.
Also I would be nice on tn,and omega has way more metal,I don’t think so this has more weight
Also buster Excalibur on sword out spined ef easily ,guess tn smash mode on sword will be epic tornado stall slash smash attack
you mean octa not omega
fine but whatever
sword is heavier than anything other than octa, an obscure, non-retail special release, costing hundreds of dollars, and only rarely available on the japanese secondary market.
also, tN is a 2nd rate right spin attack layer, at best, in the cho-z era.
and smash attack on tN has always been a waste of time, even during the brief period when tN was an alpha layer
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Suhasini - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 11:51 AM)Battleburst Wrote: What is the weight of 1’
According to the video it's 22.47 grams.
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Battleburst - Aug. 09, 2018
That is light
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - onyx blader - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 12:13 PM)Battleburst Wrote: That is light
Not at all when you compare it to 0 wich weighs around 23 grams 1' is pretty heavy
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - g2_ - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 12:31 PM)onyx blader Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 12:13 PM)Battleburst Wrote: That is light
Not at all when you compare it to 0 wich weighs around 23 grams 1' is pretty heavy
0 is 24 grams.
(Aug. 09, 2018 11:43 AM)Jinbee Wrote: My thoughts:
Buster Xcalibur - The layer is definitely lighter than I thought, I thought it would at least pass the 20 grams mark but not quite. The attack power so far doesn't seem all that great, but it's still only one video. The sword isn't spring loaded like I would expect.
1' - This is heavier than I thought, but then again 1 only weighed around 21 grams so making it heavier would make sense.
Sword - It's about as Heavy as I expected and more aggressive than I would imagine on Xcalibur.
Overall, the balance sometimes seems better than the previous Xcaliburs, it could outspin Forneus which is impressive but again doesn't seem to demonstrate amazing attack so far but it is just stock so...
Wow, that's freaking disappointing. Well, guess Winning Valkyrie is still number 1.
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Adarsh Abhinav - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 12:31 PM)onyx blader Wrote:0 is 24 grams, no doubt that 1' is still pretty heavy(Aug. 09, 2018 12:13 PM)Battleburst Wrote: That is light
Not at all when you compare it to 0 wich weighs around 23 grams 1' is pretty heavy
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - g2_ - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 10:42 AM)Battleburst Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 9:46 AM)RedPanda2 Wrote: it does seem interesting, especially because it’s a tall driver.
who knows, maybe this will be a nice driver for Lift.
it’s also heavy, looks like Sword will be the heaviest one yet.
Also I would be nice on tn,and omega has way more metal,I don’t think so this has more weight
Also buster Excalibur on sword out spined ef easily ,guess tn smash mode on sword will be epic tornado stall slash smash attack
Yep, sounds like a top tier like 0,12 and 7.
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - bblader/90 - Aug. 09, 2018
Winning Valkyrie could burst all those cho-zs even if its disc and driver are much lighter than the ones of Buster Xcalibur. bX is very disappointing so far...
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Adarsh Abhinav - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 12:50 PM)g2_ Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 10:42 AM)Battleburst Wrote: Also I would be nice on tn,and omega has way more metal,I don’t think so this has more weight
Also buster Excalibur on sword out spined ef easily ,guess tn smash mode on sword will be epic tornado stall slash smash attack
Yep, sounds like a top tier like 0,12 and 7.
wait what!!! 12 is a top tier!!!
It's so light, no stamina, no attack, no defence Just a bit of weight and Contact points made for lawn mowing?
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - RedPanda2 - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 1:15 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: Winning Valkyrie could burst all those cho-zs even if its disc and driver are much lighter than the ones of Buster Xcalibur. bX is very disappointing so far...
as far as actual performance data, we have slightly more than absolutely nothing at this point...
let’s not be premature in our assertions
i continue to see tons of potential with bX
but if Sword is as good as it looks, odds are the bX layer and 1’ disc won’t both be great as well
TT doesn’t usually release 3 killer new parts together. odds are at least one will be “zeta’d”
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Suhasini - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 12:50 PM)g2_ Wrote:How is 12 in the top tier tips? It's very light, damages other beyblades in some cases, has not much of an attack potential.(Aug. 09, 2018 10:42 AM)Battleburst Wrote: Also I would be nice on tn,and omega has way more metal,I don’t think so this has more weight
Also buster Excalibur on sword out spined ef easily ,guess tn smash mode on sword will be epic tornado stall slash smash attack
Yep, sounds like a top tier like 0,12 and 7.
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - bblader/90 - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 1:25 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 1:15 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: Winning Valkyrie could burst all those cho-zs even if its disc and driver are much lighter than the ones of Buster Xcalibur. bX is very disappointing so far...
as far as actual performance data, we have slightly more than absolutely nothing at this point...
let’s not be premature in our assertions
i continue to see tons of potential with bX
but if Sword is as good as it looks, odds are the bX layer and 1’ disc won’t both be great as well
TT doesn’t usually release 3 killer new parts together. odds are at least one will be “zeta’d”
Yeah, but i'm talking about stock combos. wV showed immediately what it was capable of, even with the useless 12 disc and well...volcanic. That's saying something...
bX could be much stronger on other combos, as you rightly mentioned it will take some time to find the right parts for it since it hasn't even been released yet...
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - TheBeyBladeGuy - Aug. 09, 2018
Can't wait for this bey to be released and the triple set I wonder how good would this combo be BX 2Dagger Ir
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - BuilderROB - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 9:46 AM)RedPanda2 Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 7:59 AM)KnightPro Wrote: The driver actually seems pretty decent! it does a very nice flower pattern.
it does seem interesting, especially because it’s a tall driver.
who knows, maybe this will be a nice driver for Lift.
it’s also heavy, looks like Sword will be the heaviest one yet.
Yeah but the swords on the sword driver could cause scraping. This looks like it will be outclassed by iron
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - RedPanda2 - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 4:26 PM)BuilderROB Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 9:46 AM)RedPanda2 Wrote: it does seem interesting, especially because it’s a tall driver.
who knows, maybe this will be a nice driver for Lift.
it’s also heavy, looks like Sword will be the heaviest one yet.
Yeah but the swords on the sword driver could cause scraping. This looks like it will be outclassed by iron
yes it might scrape, but we don’t know how severely yet.
either scraping in a pure attack combo is not a big deal anyways. stamina is already being compromised. yes there is an optimized range of what is acceptable, but it’s pretty wide for most use cases involving flat drivers.
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - BuilderROB - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 4:40 PM)RedPanda2 Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 4:26 PM)BuilderROB Wrote: Yeah but the swords on the sword driver could cause scraping. This looks like it will be outclassed by iron
yes it might scrape, but we don’t know how severely yet.
either scraping in a pure attack combo is not a big deal anyways. stamina is already being compromised. yes there is an optimized range of what is acceptable, but it’s pretty wide for most use cases involving flat drivers.
Still it could make the difference between a win and a loss in a tournament
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - g2_ - Aug. 09, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 1:19 PM)Adarsh Abhinav Wrote:12 allows for much better control and its easier to control Volcanic with 12, try to do it with 0 or 7. It won't work. It also allows for more speed. Weight isn't everything.(Aug. 09, 2018 12:50 PM)g2_ Wrote: Yep, sounds like a top tier like 0,12 and 7.
wait what!!! 12 is a top tier!!!
It's so light, no stamina, no attack, no defence Just a bit of weight and Contact points made for lawn mowing?
(Aug. 09, 2018 1:38 PM)Suhasini Wrote:Since when weight everything in Beyblade, 12 allows for better flower pattern and speed.(Aug. 09, 2018 12:50 PM)g2_ Wrote: Yep, sounds like a top tier like 0,12 and 7.How is 12 in the top tier tips? It's very light, damages other beyblades in some cases, has not much of an attack potential.
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - MagikHorse - Aug. 10, 2018
(Aug. 09, 2018 8:17 PM)g2_ Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2018 1:19 PM)Adarsh Abhinav Wrote: wait what!!! 12 is a top tier!!!12 allows for much better control and its easier to control Volcanic with 12, try to do it with 0 or 7. It won't work. It also allows for more speed. Weight isn't everything.
It's so light, no stamina, no attack, no defence Just a bit of weight and Contact points made for lawn mowing?
(Aug. 09, 2018 1:38 PM)Suhasini Wrote: How is 12 in the top tier tips? It's very light, damages other beyblades in some cases, has not much of an attack potential.Since when weight everything in Beyblade, 12 allows for better flower pattern and speed.
The best you can do with Volcanic is weight it down as much as possible with 10/0 and Bump/Lift to get control over it, because speed is already something Volcanic has in excess to the point where it tends to fly out of the stadium. I have no clue why you think 12 increasing speed is good here when that only makes it more likely to go flying out, especially since it doesn't affect the flower pattern at all and Volcanic can barely hold that pattern anyways.
If we really wanted a lighter disk we'd be better off using 4 or 5, which were both run at some point in the competitive scene as viable alternatives.
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - MonoDragon - Aug. 10, 2018
What I can theorize from how Buster Xcalibur looks:
Layer: A stronger, heavier Sieg Xcalibur, though it probably has a higher Burst risk than Winning Valkyrie and it might struggle much more against Left Spin opponents. So we'll have three viable Attack Layers, Buster Xcalibur for Right Spin opponents, Bloody Longinus for Left Spin opponents and Winning Valkyrie for either of the two
Disk: A variation on 1, if it's heavier, than that's a good thing, better synergy with the Layer. If it's lighter, than it's a dust collector.
Driver: Terrible, Terrible, Terrible. The wide Jaggy-esque metal tip will have an even harder time maintaining a banking pattern than Iron (which also could only barely hold it), have less Stamina than Iron and the metal forks sticking out of it will create a scrape risk that no Frame could possibly make up for. Finally, taller heights on Attack Types never work out well
RE: B-120 Starter Buster Xcalibur 1' Sword - Valtryek Aoi - Aug. 10, 2018
Sword may not be so good but it makes up a bit with the power from Fourth Impact
Kind of reminds me how they tried to make up for Vise Leopard's Lift Disc Frame issue by giving it Destroy and the fact that Lift has pretty good power. Just need to watch out for scraping and Vise Leopard becomes way better. P.S. (If you don't mind losing weight and gaining speed you can take the Disc Frame off)