(Jul. 29, 2016  5:46 PM)Cake Wrote:

(Jul. 29, 2016  4:47 PM)RDF3 Wrote:

(Jul. 23, 2016  7:07 PM)Flame~Capricorn Wrote:

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The attitude towards testing has gotten quite bad recently. It surely seems to me that anyone who isn't at least a refined blader with a large presence on the competitive scene can't get their words out through testing. Even very good players won't have "Acceptable" tests if they do not own a BB-10 stadium. this has gotten so bad, hat even The Sonokong Triple Battle Type, Super Control Stadium, and BB-46 Standard Type Stadiums, which, by the way, ARE ALL LEGAL IN TOURNAMENTS, are for some reason incapable of producing valid testings. I know that the BB-10 is optimal, but by definition, that also means that there are other alternatives, yet the community is rejecting anything else. So I will not be posting my testings, as it will surely be disregarded and nobody will care.

I have found Gravity to be not as overpowering as it used to be. Screw Pisces is basically on par. #UnbanGravity

He raised a really good point here, even if it isn't related to the Dark Knight discussion.

With regards to stadium legality and testing bias, I'm all for more tests, and I agree that although the BB-10 is the preferred stadium, dismissing tests in other legal Stadiums is unfair and damaging to the community as a whole. However, I strongly believe that Stadiums with inadequate or completely missing Tornado Ridges should not be legal for tournaments. This includes the currently legal red floor BB-46 and Standard type Beystadium, as well as my own Sonokong Attack type Beystadium. This leaves the Triple Type, Super Control, and Takara Attack-type Stadium as the legal options, though I'm open to the Burst stadium being legalized in the interest of making it easier to obtain a legal Stadium.

(Jun. 09, 2016  3:37 PM)Time Wrote: @[Wombat] @[loyd87] I was having launcher problems from the beginning of the tournament and only about 4 matches in did I realize that my string wasn't coming all the way out (it was a good 2-3 inches shorter than others' in comparison) so my scythe combo got outspun by a couple of things it normally takes down without much trouble. Brad was entirely borrowing parts from me so I knew that he was going to be using a Pegasis RF setup and I just kind of pigeonholed myself thinking Bakushin LT RSF was going to be enough to handle it. Although, admittedly this was played in the very problematic yellow stadium (we were not yet aware it was a problem). Once I was aware that the yellow stadium had a ridge that was very likely to be hopped that pushed me away from all attack and stallers (I believe I played 5 of my 8 matches in this stadium). However, in the clear stadium against both meteo r145 cf and lightning ____ gcf my scythe staller did tank its way to match wins (they were 3-2 though and I'm pretty sure I was down 0-2 in both of them to start). So then against loyd using his meteo giga flat I had my ltsc, Duo MB, unfortunately unbeknownst to all, the layer of paint on top also made the bowl of the stadium shallower which led to my Duo scraping out well before we even got to see who would have gotten the os (somewhere close to a quarter of stamina left). In my match against MissingNo. I was Earth 230 MB and he was Ronin Killerken B. We both launched, and on the first hit of each round I flew out of the stadium. To say that I'd be a proponent of banning the yellow stadium from tournament play would be a bit of an understatement. All in all though, it was still a really fun tournament and I'm a huge fan of the deck system, definitely eliminates a lot of the luck factor and helps reward the most skilled players.

(Jun. 15, 2016  3:46 PM)Dracomageat Wrote:

(Jun. 13, 2016  3:59 AM)Angry Face Wrote: I don't actually own a black Attack Type BeyStadium, but I do have two red ones from Sonokong. Their tornado ridges are definitely not as well defined as the ones from Takara-Tomy, but I've personally adjusted to tornado stalling in those stadiums, so much that the soft gradient doesn't even phase my launches anymore. Honestly, I love playing in the TT stadiums at tournaments because they're so much more forgiving of my poorer launches, ha ha.

Newer members might not remember, but a few years ago, Sonokong's Attack Type and other type BeyStadiums were considerably cheaper than Takara-Tomy's, which made them great budget-buys for emerging communities. Since no more Attack Type BeyStadiums are being produced, though, all of them regardless of manufacturer will only continue to increase in rarity. If you can't perform a particular launch in this type of stadium, request the host doesn't use them if there are enough extra Takara-Tomy ones, as we've done in the past here in VA. However, to make all of these existing stadiums illegal outright due to a difference in molding so minor that some practice would allow one to overcome, I think, would definitely do more harm than good.

Likewise my stadium is clear, not black, but it is a TT Attack Type stadium. I was not aware of any discrepencies when I got it but there does, in fact, appear to be a minor gradient change just over half way up the main play area. In addition, the inner tornado ridge is indeed shallower than the external ridge around the exits and both do appear to be andled outwards slightly, with a rounded top edge.
I cannot compare these factors to a TT version as I simply do not have that kind of money to chuck at stadia but that just ties in to my agreement with Angry Face's above statements.

If the difference between the stadia is as stated then by all means ban the use of Sonokong stadia when TT versions are present or create some kind of preferentiallity clause but banning their use outright would disadvantage so many communities over what appear to be comparitively small problems.
Unless you want people playing in the Octagon Arena.

(Aug. 05, 2016  12:13 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: I never really seen Sonokong BB-10 so I can't say anything but I trust cake's option so i'm also up for it's ban. As far as Burst stadium for MFB. I would say I don't think it would be the best idea. well if you see Burst's Stadium carefully it have smaller area where beys spin, super think tornado ridge [which is actually good thing XD], slopes of stadium are not steep enough for MFB to keep flower pattern [I found that, with less bank then how much we do with MFB i can still get simmular flower pattern. I could be wrong though, can someone can confirm this?] and THAT COVER. I mean it just don't work as well as our Legendary BB-10.

(Jul. 23, 2016  7:07 PM)Flame~Capricorn Wrote:

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The attitude towards testing has gotten quite bad recently. It surely seems to me that anyone who isn't at least a refined blader with a large presence on the competitive scene can't get their words out through testing. Even very good players won't have "Acceptable" tests if they do not own a BB-10 stadium. this has gotten so bad, hat even The Sonokong Triple Battle Type, Super Control Stadium, and BB-46 Standard Type Stadiums, which, by the way, ARE ALL LEGAL IN TOURNAMENTS, are for some reason incapable of producing valid testings. I know that the BB-10 is optimal, but by definition, that also means that there are other alternatives, yet the community is rejecting anything else.

(Aug. 05, 2016  12:20 AM)Shirayuki Wrote: Flying Defense can't be KO'd in the burst stadium because of the cover right? I've also found it super hard to KO anything on WB2's Shaft so...

Wombat Wrote:This is actually a solid point (I think). I'm not too sure how to respond to it though, haha. I think Plastic Tactic II was played in the Burst Stadium, so do any of the Montreal players have some thoughts on this (other than 'damn, why didn't I think to exploit that during the tournament', haha)?

(Aug. 07, 2016  6:30 AM)LMAO Wrote: From my own experience, the B-09 is pretty uncomfortable to launch inside of, as I usually launch attackers towards the outer edge of the BB-10, something that the B-09 really restricts and I'm not very fond of that. Agreed with what earthwolf1404 said (and possibly others?) I dislike the idea of using the Burst Stadium for MFB, as it is not the intended stadium that is supposed to be used for the much larger and heavier MFB's.

Agree on a banning for BB-46, though.

(Aug. 07, 2016  9:03 AM)Neo Wrote:

(Aug. 07, 2016  6:30 AM)LMAO Wrote: From my own experience, the B-09 is pretty uncomfortable to launch inside of, as I usually launch attackers towards the outer edge of the BB-10, something that the B-09 really restricts and I'm not very fond of that. Agreed with what earthwolf1404 said (and possibly others?) I dislike the idea of using the Burst Stadium for MFB, as it is not the intended stadium that is supposed to be used for the much larger and heavier MFB's.

Agree on a banning for BB-46, though.

And the BB-10 wasn't intended for Plastics and HMS.
If that's allowed, why not be able to use the Burst stadium?
I know the counter argument will be "no one has the old Plastics stadiums", I understand that, but there's going to come a time where people will want to play MFB with no access to a BB-10.

(Aug. 25, 2016  11:54 PM)Kai-V Wrote: Burst might be getting a translucid SonoKong BeyStadium Attack Type by the way, so we can confirm whether it is a matter of general mould or of paint.

(Aug. 26, 2016  1:04 AM)Kai-V Wrote: Well paint would thin a ridge. Why would SonoKong use a different mould than TAKARA-TOMY's? It may just be coloured plastic in itself, but it is worth checking whether the normal translucid BeyStadium Attack Type by SonoKong is any different.