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Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - thundervolt57 - Jun. 16, 2016

Hey there! So lately I have been testing this combo and was honestly just wondering if I could get other opinions on it. It has gone undefeated against everyone I have battled at least although that isn't really saying much because that is 3 people... So yeah I just kind of want to know everyone elses opinion on this, thanks!


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - FIREFIRE CPB - Jun. 16, 2016

Well to prove your combo is good you need to do written test like how other are doing see this one https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Test-Girago-Dragoon-W145RF

if you just need advice post here instead of making a thread Smile https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-Build-me-a-combo-2

I think it's a quite good combo, i think you could use SW145 instead and it will be top-tier

BTW what stadium you was using?


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - MissingNo. - Jun. 16, 2016

SW145 is far from being top tier, by the way.


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - FIREFIRE CPB - Jun. 16, 2016

(Jun. 16, 2016  3:37 AM)MissingNo. Wrote: SW145 is far from being top tier, by the way.

well actually if you read test and test it yourself

you would know it's on par if not better then W145 Smile

edit:- https://worldbeyblade.org/Thread-SW145-Testing-Thread-Tier-List-Worthy


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - MissingNo. - Jun. 16, 2016

Hum ?

http://wiki.worldbeyblade.org/index.php?title=Metal_Fight_Beyblade_-_Track_List#SW145:_Switch_145

By the way, Stamina vs Stamina battles are unfortunately not enough to consider a part ''top tier''.


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - Mint - Jun. 16, 2016

MissingNo , yeah. It should atleast be good against the three types. And it wasn't even tested against attack and defense types.

@FIREFIRECPB , it also depends on the condition of the part, no? and it wasn't even mentioned of what stadium he was using, yes SW145 might be good in stamina. but it's not really worth it to use against defense and attack types because of it's recoil. If it has this much of recoil. I'd rather go for R145 just because it has tons of attack and can be used for stationary attack combos.


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - thundervolt57 - Jun. 16, 2016

Stadium-wise I use my clear 'attack' stadium I ordered from japan a few years ago


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - Mint - Jun. 16, 2016

(Jun. 16, 2016  2:44 PM)thundervolt57 Wrote: Stadium-wise I use my clear 'attack' stadium I ordered from japan a few years ago
I'm talking about the tests that FIREFIRE CPB mentioned. By the way R145 is pretty okay in BB-10 since it's pretty rare for it to scrape.


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - Jinbee - Jun. 16, 2016

Doesn't R145 have far more recoil than SW145 due to the shape and being rubber?


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - FIREFIRE CPB - Jun. 16, 2016

(Jun. 16, 2016  8:34 AM)Fraydo Frais Wrote: MissingNo , yeah. It should atleast be good against the three types. And it wasn't even tested against attack and defense types.

@FIREFIRECPB , it also depends on the condition of the part, no? and it wasn't even mentioned of what stadium he was using, yes SW145 might be good in stamina. but it's not really worth it to use against defense and attack types because of it's recoil. If it has this much of recoil. I'd rather go for R145 just because it has tons of attack and can be used for stationary attack combos.

well i don't think tracks ever wear or anything lol so no.

but most of people today use 120-165 attackers which have least chance of making contact with track + it's slightly heavier then W145 which is always good when facing attacker. In @[Thunder Dome]'s test he showed how SW145 is on par with our top-tier Stamina Tracks not how it performs against all types of beys. also if it can OS top-tier stamina type just as well it should do good against defence as well as we are talking abut something like Wyvang Wyvang BD145RDF or something like that.

As for R145. It heavy weight is good for Defence and Attack Type but it has extremely high recoil which makes it bad for stamina + it has lower aerodynamic shape then SW145 which will also affact stamina. also Stationery Attackk combo are good in burst but in MFB. they will mostly get Self-KO or OSed easily due to recoil by lower combos


RE: Phantom Leone II R145WD Potential? - Mint - Jun. 19, 2016

Yes, i'm wrong about R145 being good in this setup because of it's recoil and being rubber.


Regarding the Top tier topic I did mention that "atleast" be good on to the 3 types or 2 of them. meaning it can put up a fight against these types. It can't be considered Top Tier if a beyblade with that part can't even stand against a Wyvang attack combo or a Defense combo with enough attack power. See how BD145 can keep up with stamina? (with left spin combos), effectively deflect attack beyblades? ( even the left spin ones can deflect attack beys) SW145 however, It hasn't even been tested yet with Attack or Defense types. It's not based on how it's on par on top tier parts. As i said, it's how they perform against the 3 types. if they can atleast do good in 2 types ( BD145) they're considered Top Tier.