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The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - AngelicSight - Jan. 08, 2011

Ok, so I was testing , and I found this combo. Check it out!

MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS VS MF Earth Bull C145 WB
Alternating at first shot
TT Attack Stadium
Beylauncher and Launcher grip + suspension

1. EV by OS
2. EV by OS
3. EV by OS
4. EB by OS
5. EV by OS
6. EV by OS
7. EB by OS
8. EV by OS
9. EV by OS
10. EV by OS

Anyways, something I noticed was that Virgo kept on minorly leaning over, it managed to always hang on until the last second, and one. It's not a HUGE custom, but hey, it works! I believe the MF stabilizes it from wobbling, and GB keeps it going. So anyways, what do you people think. Good combo or not?


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - lord Wolfblade - Jan. 08, 2011

this combo "the bullfighter" seems to win through having more stamina (bs has less fiction then wb) i think that might be why

anyways this is quite interesting, if only i had the parts to test...


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Soundwave - Jan. 08, 2011

???? then why not just use WD/D/SD instead? Speechless


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - xXKaiouyaXx - Jan. 08, 2011

Of course Earth virgo's going to win BS is a STAMINA tip while WB is A DEFENSE TIP, and GB145 has more STAMINA than C145. The point of capitalization? STAMINA BEATS DEFENSE.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - lord Wolfblade - Jan. 08, 2011

(Jan. 08, 2011  5:29 AM)xXKaiouyaXx Wrote: Of course Earth virgo's going to win BS is a STAMINA tip while WB is A DEFENSE TIP, and GB145 has more STAMINA than C145. The point of capitalization? STAMINA BEATS DEFENSE.

slightly but not by much


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - xXKaiouyaXx - Jan. 08, 2011

It's true, but you understand what I'm saying right? Testing a (kinda) stamina vs. a total defense usually has an obvious outcome.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - lord Wolfblade - Jan. 08, 2011

(Jan. 08, 2011  5:42 AM)xXKaiouyaXx Wrote: It's true, but you understand what I'm saying right? Testing a (kinda) stamina vs. a total defense usually has an obvious outcome.

yes i see what you are saying and i already said that (look at the second post)


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Kai-V - Jan. 08, 2011

Either bring more interesting test results, or this topic will be closed.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - xXKaiouyaXx - Jan. 08, 2011

That post was pointed a little more towards the creator of the thread. Probably should have mentioned that..... Glad we're on the same page though. Here is some BS vs. WB testing.
The MF was placed on BS for the statement "I believe the MF stabilizes it from wobbling"

MFB Attack Stadium

Two light launchers, blades launched in alternation.

MF Flame Bull DF145BS vs. Flame Bull DF145WB
MF Flame bull-4 Flame Bull-6 (WB won because of BS's balance issues every round it won.)

I would do some testing with GB145, but I have yet to find an Earth Virgo near me.

I'm sorry to disprove, but an MF does not improve the balance of BS =/


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Ultra - Jan. 08, 2011

You changed two of the most important parts... Of course it performed differently.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - milkychipz - Jan. 08, 2011

I really don't understand. Its an uncustomized Earth Virgo with an MF Uncertain


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Ultra - Jan. 08, 2011

He thought it was interesting but it isn't cause it's just a stamina combo and since stamina beats defence it's not amazing.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - xXKaiouyaXx - Jan. 08, 2011

I was just pointing out and MF does little to nothing to improve balance with a BS tip, and I don't have an Earth Virgo in my collection right now. The GB was the main reason it beat Bull...


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - AngelicSight - Jan. 08, 2011

@xxKaiyouya: I just tested again, and replaced GB145 with DF145. Suprisingly, the test results were much better.

MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS VS MF Earth Bull C145 WB
TT attack stadium
Beylauncher with suspension on launcher grip used
Alternating Shots

1. EV by OS
2. EV by OS
3. EV by OS
4. EV by OS
5.EV by OS
6. EV by OS
7. EV by OS
8. EB by OS
9. EV by OS
10. EV by OS

Earth Virgo winrate: 90%

It seemed to always slightly edge out over bull, yet again, only it didn't wobble as much... wonder what that means. And for the person who said something about WD and SD, here are some other results:

Same conditions as before:
MF Earth Virgo DF145 BS VS MF Earth Bull C145WB

1.EV by OS
2. EV by OS
3. EV by OS
4. EB by OS
5. EB by OS
6 EB by OS
7 EV by OS
8. EV by OS
9. EB by OS
10. EB by OS

Virgo winrate: 50%

Not great, but you have a 50% chance of winning if you use it, though.

So anyways, these are the test results I got, and as you can see, GB145 isn't the staple here. Oh well... critique please...


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Ultra - Jan. 08, 2011

(Jan. 08, 2011  7:44 PM)AngelicSight Wrote: @xxKaiyouya: I just tested again, and replaced GB145 with DF145. Suprisingly, the test results were much better.

You only got 10% for than him when using earth... That's not what I would call much better.

So anyways, these are the test results I got, and as you can see, GB145 isn't the staple here. Oh well... critique please...

How is it not? The results got much worse when you changed JUST the track!



RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Nojo294 - Jan. 08, 2011

Stamina>Defense... why bother testing at all?


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Temporal - Jan. 09, 2011

If you have Burn, test against Burn Bull DF145/145SD, or Burn Bull 100WD/SD.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Priscient - Jan. 09, 2011

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this just an uncustomized Earth Virgo with a MF stuck on it?
I would also like to see this against Burn Bull 145SD, or even Lightning L Drago CH120RF.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Temporal - Jan. 09, 2011

It is. I intend on seeing 0-10% against Burn ___100WD.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - -_- - Jan. 09, 2011

hi, you should test against top tier attack combo, such as ray__100rf, you should have those parts or if not go to a friends hse with top tier attack and stamina as we need better test results. it seems all youve done is got earth virgo out of the box and added a mf Unhappy


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - milkychipz - Jan. 09, 2011

MF Ray Unicorno 100RF is no longer top tier


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Ultra - Jan. 09, 2011

(Jan. 09, 2011  1:26 PM)sexy child Wrote: hi, you should test against top tier attack combo, such as ray__100rf, you should have those parts or if not go to a friends hse with top tier attack and stamina as we need better test results. it seems all youve done is got earth virgo out of the box and added a mf Unhappy

Why? This would lose big time cause of the bottom.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Dan - Jan. 09, 2011

(Jan. 09, 2011  1:31 PM)machipz Wrote: MF Ray Unicorno 100RF is no longer top tier
MF Ray Unicorno 100RF was never top-tier.
I can't wait to see it shaved off the list.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Ultra - Jan. 09, 2011

Er yes it was... Well maybe you think it wasn't good but the only reason it's bad now is cause Rubber bottoms have come into use for defence.


RE: The Bullfighter! MF Earth Virgo GB145 BS - Dan - Jan. 09, 2011

Notice how I italicized MF? It was a literal joke. Speechless
The same goes for Quetz, Rubber bottoms tear through most customs now.