(Mar. 05, 2021  10:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Mar. 05, 2021  9:42 PM)g2_ Wrote: No one is being insulted, stop being so sensetive. I'm saying there's no point to bother if they aren't listning. No offence to anyone, you guys are the true legends to me.

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You have to admit they won against Aiga and Ranjiro, Lui and Drum, Free and Sisco, Valt and Rantaro. They are literally rookies.

They’re not just any rookies they’re protagonists.

(Mar. 05, 2021  10:27 PM)Pixi Wrote:

(Mar. 05, 2021  10:17 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: They’re not just any rookies they’re protagonists.

and all protagonists have protagonist magic

(Mar. 06, 2021  8:25 AM)LordSpriggan Wrote: There is not plot armor this episode, get over it

(Mar. 06, 2021  6:30 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: well I finally got the time to watch this episode it was alright good conclusion to bros vs valt & rantaro battle. now I'm going to be honest i didn't see that plot armor which seems to be the talk right now lol. from 4he beginning Hikaru was strategical type of blader same with the likes of shu and aiga not on the same level but still his good with it always trying to study the battle field and thinking of a counter, hyuga was/is the one who doesn't really use his brains his basically valt prior cho z . hot headed Hikaru had a plan which hyuga finally follow an got the result it's not like the bros beat them easy nor is like it will happen every time they had a plan and it work it's that simple. the one with plot armour is lane like phi the over exaggerated their strength in the anime compare to their manga counterpart. I would even their to say the bros is on the side with least plot armour out of all the mains alongside drum.

(Mar. 06, 2021  7:16 PM)g2_ Wrote: Hikaru and Hyuga are rookies, they should not be able to defeat the legends. They are badly written charecters, so is Drum, and Aiga. Phi, and Gwynn, and Arthur, and Lain are badly written too. Granted they are good characters, but come on, Arthur went from stomping Aiga with no effort, to pretty much losing to everyone, especially Amane. The Asahi brothers went from being soloed by Free or Lui, to surpassing the legends in a short time span. The plot armor is real guys, you'll need to accept it. I mean come on, the brothers, annihilated Drum and Lui, Aiga and Ranjiro.

(Mar. 06, 2021  7:26 PM)LordSpriggan Wrote:

(Mar. 06, 2021  7:16 PM)g2_ Wrote: Hikaru and Hyuga are rookies, they should not be able to defeat the legends. They are badly written charecters, so is Drum, and Aiga. Phi, and Gwynn, and Arthur, and Lain are badly written too. Granted they are good characters, but come on, Arthur went from stomping Aiga with no effort, to pretty much losing to everyone, especially Amane. The Asahi brothers went from being soloed by Free or Lui, to surpassing the legends in a short time span. The plot armor is real guys, you'll need to accept it. I mean come on, the brothers, annihilated Drum and Lui, Aiga and Ranjiro.

No

(Mar. 06, 2021  7:16 PM)g2_ Wrote: Hikaru and Hyuga are rookies, they should not be able to defeat the legends. They are badly written charecters, so is Drum, and Aiga. Phi, and Gwynn, and Arthur, and Lain are badly written too. Granted they are good characters, but come on, Arthur went from stomping Aiga with no effort, to pretty much losing to everyone, especially Amane. The Asahi brothers went from being soloed by Free or Lui, to surpassing the legends in a short time span. The plot armor is real guys, you'll need to accept it. I mean come on, the brothers, annihilated Drum and Lui, Aiga and Ranjiro.

(Mar. 06, 2021  7:16 PM)g2_ Wrote: Hikaru and Hyuga are rookies, they should not be able to defeat the legends. They are badly written charecters, so is Drum, and Aiga. Phi, and Gwynn, and Arthur, and Lain are badly written too. Granted they are good characters, but come on, Arthur went from stomping Aiga with no effort, to pretty much losing to everyone, especially Amane. The Asahi brothers went from being soloed by Free or Lui, to surpassing the legends in a short time span. The plot armor is real guys, you'll need to accept it. I mean come on, the brothers, annihilated Drum and Lui, Aiga and Ranjiro.

(Mar. 06, 2021  8:45 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: people should really stop over using the word rookie to justified why legends can't lose . I'll use a real life thing Naomi Osaka a tennis player  in 2 years beat serena Williams back to back despite the overwhelming 23 years of experience that serena has under her belt  who by the way has won 23 gland slam single completion second highest in tennis history behind the legendary Margaret court who has 24 . oh by the way Naomi is 23 yup she got the age of serena career but yet still lost to that 23 year old .keep in mind although Naomi is a pro she's a rookie compared to serena that so called rookie didn't stop Naomi to beat serena back to back with confident stopping serena who was after 2 more grand slam to surpassed Margaret and she's been beating high ranking tennis woman consistently  before putting serena to sleep .  so that whole oh but these legend has been training for years they can't lose to some rookies well go tell that to Naomi LOL.   when phi was introduced he wasn't a rookie at all lane was just called a rookie only by name he was already beyblading prior shu met him same with the bros the were already beyblading this also goes for Arthur (who was never called a rookie) they only to characters that have an insane jump are aiga(become national level in mere 6 months) and gwynn who well did in one go but they are prodigy which means yea they learn and mastered faster than normal anything the touch will turn good that's what prodigy does. not all rookies means they are inferior to pros are not all people that has more experience means you can't lose to others that has less experienced. if we are to attack the bros then what about valt? are going to act like he didn't have plot armour on his side at one point lol

(Mar. 06, 2021  10:18 PM)Achilles25 Wrote:

(Mar. 06, 2021  7:16 PM)g2_ Wrote: Hikaru and Hyuga are rookies, they should not be able to defeat the legends. They are badly written charecters, so is Drum, and Aiga. Phi, and Gwynn, and Arthur, and Lain are badly written too. Granted they are good characters, but come on, Arthur went from stomping Aiga with no effort, to pretty much losing to everyone, especially Amane. The Asahi brothers went from being soloed by Free or Lui, to surpassing the legends in a short time span. The plot armor is real guys, you'll need to accept it. I mean come on, the brothers, annihilated Drum and Lui, Aiga and Ranjiro.

ya they are the main characters. what did you expect. like they were meant to beat the legends.

(Mar. 07, 2021  1:19 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: This is my take on plot armor discussion in this episode

If y'all consider the h bros using plot armor in this episode it's the same as valt beating shu in the finals or aiga beating phi is plot armor which again isn't true.

Here's the reason why the H bros could beat the legends they are trained directly by the legends and the legends wants the h bros  to surpass them (this is basically the reasoning to why the legends trained them)

(Mar. 06, 2021  8:45 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: people should really stop over using the word rookie to justified why legends can't lose . I'll use a real life thing Naomi Osaka a tennis player  in 2 years beat serena Williams back to back despite the overwhelming 23 years of experience that serena has under her belt  who by the way has won 23 gland slam single completion second highest in tennis history behind the legendary Margaret court who has 24 . oh by the way Naomi is 23 yup she got the age of serena career but yet still lost to that 23 year old .keep in mind although Naomi is a pro she's a rookie compared to serena that so called rookie didn't stop Naomi to beat serena back to back with confident stopping serena who was after 2 more grand slam to surpassed Margaret and she's been beating high ranking tennis woman consistently  before putting serena to sleep .  so that whole oh but these legend has been training for years they can't lose to some rookies well go tell that to Naomi LOL.   when phi was introduced he wasn't a rookie at all lane was just called a rookie only by name he was already beyblading prior shu met him same with the bros the were already beyblading this also goes for Arthur (who was never called a rookie) they only to characters that have an insane jump are aiga(become national level in mere 6 months) and gwynn who well did in one go but they are prodigy which means yea they learn and mastered faster than normal anything the touch will turn good that's what prodigy does. not all rookies means they are inferior to pros are not all people that has more experience means you can't lose to others that has less experienced. if we are to attack the bros then what about valt? are going to act like he didn't have plot armour on his side at one point lol

(Mar. 07, 2021  4:56 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:

(Mar. 06, 2021  8:45 PM)God Dragruler Wrote: people should really stop over using the word rookie to justified why legends can't lose . I'll use a real life thing Naomi Osaka a tennis player  in 2 years beat serena Williams back to back despite the overwhelming 23 years of experience that serena has under her belt  who by the way has won 23 gland slam single completion second highest in tennis history behind the legendary Margaret court who has 24 . oh by the way Naomi is 23 yup she got the age of serena career but yet still lost to that 23 year old .keep in mind although Naomi is a pro she's a rookie compared to serena that so called rookie didn't stop Naomi to beat serena back to back with confident stopping serena who was after 2 more grand slam to surpassed Margaret and she's been beating high ranking tennis woman consistently  before putting serena to sleep .  so that whole oh but these legend has been training for years they can't lose to some rookies well go tell that to Naomi LOL.   when phi was introduced he wasn't a rookie at all lane was just called a rookie only by name he was already beyblading prior shu met him same with the bros the were already beyblading this also goes for Arthur (who was never called a rookie) they only to characters that have an insane jump are aiga(become national level in mere 6 months) and gwynn who well did in one go but they are prodigy which means yea they learn and mastered faster than normal anything the touch will turn good that's what prodigy does. not all rookies means they are inferior to pros are not all people that has more experience means you can't lose to others that has less experienced. if we are to attack the bros then what about valt? are going to act like he didn't have plot armour on his side at one point lol

Great example, especially love it since I'm a tennis player myself. But yeah, people like Lui who became high level at young ages shows that what Shu said in episode 1 of Burst 1 was right, "it's not about who started first". I mean, Lui was 6 when he was his first national, so that's kinda insane. Not saying the legends' hard work means nothing (as the anime does disrespect them to an extent) but not everything the bros have done has been plot armor. I'd advocate for them being decently balanced.

(Mar. 07, 2021  3:51 AM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: even tho I wanted Valt to win I didnt see plot armor on the hizashi bros (and I am very biased when talking about valt)

(Mar. 07, 2021  5:58 AM)g2_ Wrote:

(Mar. 07, 2021  3:51 AM)valtaoi_007 Wrote: even tho I wanted Valt to win I didnt see plot armor on the hizashi bros (and I am very biased when talking about valt)

I honestly wanted Valt to lose.