(Jun. 15, 2021  11:14 AM)Shido-kun Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  9:07 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: We all had the name of Valkryie Wrong. Its Saviour Valkryie not Saber. 

No, this is most definitely Saber. The Fate series has a Servant class called Saber and it uses the same セイバー as this Valkyrie.

It also makes more sense because Beyblade Valkyrie has always been depicted as a knight with a sword.

(Jun. 15, 2021  5:53 PM)Sahaj Buttar Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  11:14 AM)Shido-kun Wrote: No, this is most definitely Saber. The Fate series has a Servant class called Saber and it uses the same セイバー as this Valkyrie.

It also makes more sense because Beyblade Valkyrie has always been depicted as a knight with a sword.

Well I don't know if there is any correlation between the fate series and valts beyblade but good speculation

(Jun. 15, 2021  3:53 PM)NoNotYou Wrote: God, we're going to have another Bell/Bael situation with Savior/Saber. The official TT advertisement shows Savior, so i'm gonna say Savior. Waking up to see it's Savior was a bit of a twist lol.

Anyways, this bey looks good. Sure I don't think it'll perform well stock, but at least it looks good, fun and unique. Which honestly is all I really wanted. Sure good performance would be a bonus, but oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

My biggest complaint though is Valkyrie with a sharp tip. That is cursed.

(Jun. 15, 2021  4:52 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  4:50 PM)TitanDragon Wrote: Are Jump Drop and Jump Upper actually moves or advertisement comments

Pretty sure they're just comments

(Jun. 15, 2021  3:31 PM)KinkoUsagi Wrote: I cannot understand the negativity behind this release. Gorgeous Beyblade, very creative gimmick that hasn't been done before (I guess Hopper from plastic get is the only thing similar?) and it comes with a launcher + gear.

Will the driver be competitive? Probably not. Will it be a lot of fun? Absolutely, yes!

I do wish all the creative stuff was Phoenix-level of competitive, but it can be challenging to pull off.

(Jun. 15, 2021  9:40 PM)AdmiralMoe Wrote: The letter "V" sound is often translated with a "B" sound when a word is said in Japanese. "セイバー" (Seiba) can be correctly translated as either "Saber" or "Savior", because if you asked a Japanese person to pronounce the English words "Saber" and "Savior", they would pronounce both words in the same way. It's like when people translated "Lord Spriggan" as "Load" and "Road" because all three English words are pronounced "ロード" in Japanese.

Quote:There is also no correlation with Fate series. The Saber-class in that series is named after the type of weapon they use, a "saber" (which is a type of sword, but "swordsman" class didn't sound as good to Nasu I guess).

(Jun. 15, 2021  9:40 PM)AdmiralMoe Wrote: The letter "V" sound is often translated with a "B" sound when a word is said in Japanese. "セイバー" (Seiba) can be correctly translated as either "Saber" or "Savior", because if you asked a Japanese person to pronounce the English words "Saber" and "Savior", they would pronounce both words in the same way. It's like when people translated "Lord Spriggan" as "Load" and "Road" because all three English words are pronounced "ロード" in Japanese.

There is also no correlation with Fate series. The Saber-class in that series is named after the type of weapon they use, a "saber" (which is a type of sword, but "swordsman" class didn't sound as good to Nasu I guess).

(Jun. 15, 2021  11:41 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, so what about Kamen Rider Saber. Is it Kamen Rider Savior? That can't be right, they're clearly using swords, right? Multiple instances of that using that exact katana. Even on the logo itself. I don't think they forgot to check the spelling. That's like it they released the next Mario game as Super Morio.

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(Jun. 15, 2021  9:40 PM)AdmiralMoe Wrote: The letter "V" sound is often translated with a "B" sound when a word is said in Japanese. "セイバー" (Seiba) can be correctly translated as either "Saber" or "Savior", because if you asked a Japanese person to pronounce the English words "Saber" and "Savior", they would pronounce both words in the same way. It's like when people translated "Lord Spriggan" as "Load" and "Road" because all three English words are pronounced "ロード" in Japanese.

There is also no correlation with Fate series. The Saber-class in that series is named after the type of weapon they use, a "saber" (which is a type of sword, but "swordsman" class didn't sound as good to Nasu I guess).

The correlation argument is pretty bad. It's just an example. Where it comes from doesn't matter. It they call is Saber using that katakana, I'm pretty sure they intend for it to mean Saber. So why isn't this bey named Saber? It's as simple as that really.

(Jun. 15, 2021  11:54 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  11:41 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, so what about Kamen Rider Saber. Is it Kamen Rider Savior? That can't be right, they're clearly using swords, right? Multiple instances of that using that exact katana. Even on the logo itself. I don't think they forgot to check the spelling. That's like it they released the next Mario game as Super Morio.

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The correlation argument is pretty bad. It's just an example. Where it comes from doesn't matter. It they call is Saber using that katakana, I'm pretty sure they intend for it to mean Saber. So why isn't this bey named Saber? It's as simple as that really.

Saber doesn't really fit the Valkryie Beyblade line because all of the Valkryie names always kinda meant the same thing but didn't at the same time so when I heard the name Saber I was kinda confused because it didn't really fit the Valkryie trend (Also Hasbro already made Sword Valtryek sooo) and besides IMO Savior sounds a bit better than Saber

(Jun. 16, 2021  12:00 AM)Instarez Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  11:54 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote: Saber doesn't really fit the Valkryie Beyblade line because all of the Valkryie names always kinda meant the same thing but didn't at the same time so when I heard the name Saber I was kinda confused because it didn't really fit the Valkryie trend (Also Hasbro already made Sword Valtryek sooo) and besides IMO Savior sounds a bit better than Saber

They've named it around swords before. Slash Valkyrie.

(Jun. 15, 2021  9:40 PM)AdmiralMoe Wrote: The letter "V" sound is often translated with a "B" sound when a word is said in Japanese. "セイバー" (Seiba) can be correctly translated as either "Saber" or "Savior", because if you asked a Japanese person to pronounce the English words "Saber" and "Savior", they would pronounce both words in the same way. It's like when people translated "Lord Spriggan" as "Load" and "Road" because all three English words are pronounced "ロード" in Japanese.

There is also no correlation with Fate series. The Saber-class in that series is named after the type of weapon they use, a "saber" (which is a type of sword, but "swordsman" class didn't sound as good to Nasu I guess).

(Jun. 16, 2021  12:10 AM)originalzankye Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  9:40 PM)AdmiralMoe Wrote: The letter "V" sound is often translated with a "B" sound when a word is said in Japanese. "セイバー" (Seiba) can be correctly translated as either "Saber" or "Savior", because if you asked a Japanese person to pronounce the English words "Saber" and "Savior", they would pronounce both words in the same way. It's like when people translated "Lord Spriggan" as "Load" and "Road" because all three English words are pronounced "ロード" in Japanese.

There is also no correlation with Fate series. The Saber-class in that series is named after the type of weapon they use, a "saber" (which is a type of sword, but "swordsman" class didn't sound as good to Nasu I guess).

Thank you Moe, the debate should honestly end on the name because the official Takara Tomy commercial spells it in English as "Savior" there shouldn't be any debate with it.




lol

(Jun. 16, 2021  12:19 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: Does it really matter what its name is? It could literally be called Toilet Valkyrie and I don't think anyone would care as long as it is nice and strong. It is a name, nothing to get up and arms about.

(Jun. 16, 2021  12:10 AM)originalzankye Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  9:40 PM)AdmiralMoe Wrote: The letter "V" sound is often translated with a "B" sound when a word is said in Japanese. "セイバー" (Seiba) can be correctly translated as either "Saber" or "Savior", because if you asked a Japanese person to pronounce the English words "Saber" and "Savior", they would pronounce both words in the same way. It's like when people translated "Lord Spriggan" as "Load" and "Road" because all three English words are pronounced "ロード" in Japanese.

There is also no correlation with Fate series. The Saber-class in that series is named after the type of weapon they use, a "saber" (which is a type of sword, but "swordsman" class didn't sound as good to Nasu I guess).

Thank you Moe, the debate should honestly end on the name because the official Takara Tomy commercial spells it in English as "Savior" there shouldn't be any debate with it.




lol

Quote:It is actually Saber. Japanese just pronounce foreign words very loosely to the actual pronunciation in those cases. The characters セイバ with セ=se イ=i and バ=ba. Romanized it's seiba. If it was savior it would have ヴィア towards the end for that more v sound (vior but said "via/va"). Saber Valkyrie is its name.

(Jun. 15, 2021  11:54 PM)Strikegamerv6 Wrote:

(Jun. 15, 2021  11:41 PM)Instarez Wrote: Alright, so what about Kamen Rider Saber. Is it Kamen Rider Savior? That can't be right, they're clearly using swords, right? Multiple instances of that using that exact katana. Even on the logo itself. I don't think they forgot to check the spelling. That's like it they released the next Mario game as Super Morio.

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The correlation argument is pretty bad. It's just an example. Where it comes from doesn't matter. It they call is Saber using that katakana, I'm pretty sure they intend for it to mean Saber. So why isn't this bey named Saber? It's as simple as that really.

Saber doesn't really fit the Valkryie Beyblade line because all of the Valkryie names always kinda meant the same thing but didn't at the same time so when I heard the name Saber I was kinda confused because it didn't really fit the Valkryie trend (Also Hasbro already made Sword Valtryek sooo) and besides IMO Savior sounds a bit better than Saber

(Jun. 16, 2021  12:19 AM)DeltaZakuro Wrote: Does it really matter what its name is? It could literally be called Toilet Valkyrie and I don't think anyone would care as long as it is nice and strong. It is a name, nothing to get up and arms about.