(Aug. 26, 2020  3:34 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: Well to add my own 2 cents to this discussion; if we look at the  preview carefully we can  see 2 thing that looked interesting to me
1) lane makes that so called signature"demonic face" with his eyes shining
2) we see a shot of helios and achilles going against lucifer AND HYPERION IS ATTACKING THEM FROM BEHIND.
Looking from these two points i believe is that what happens in the tag yeam batlle is that both hikaru and aiga are pushing lean to the limit through their resonance. Suddenly hyuga comes from behind to assist lean in fighting off achilles and helios but lean gets into that"demonic mode" and manages to knock out everyone. THIS I think is the beginning of one of the brothers evil arc (it feels as if HIKARU will turn so cled evil as he has not one any important and has a burning desire to improve)

(Aug. 26, 2020  2:25 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Rantaro and Silas are far from weak so I don't think that's a fair assessment. To say you think Aiger will win because of that thought, is unfounded. As far as plot armor is concerned, Aiger has had plenty so if he gets defeated by his own signature plot device, then it will poetic justice of a kind. Keep in mind also that Lean already defeated powerful bladers such as Lui and Free, so if he beats Aiger here, it wouldn't exactly be outside the realm of what he's already done.

(Aug. 26, 2020  2:27 AM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Aug. 26, 2020  2:18 AM)Legend Red Eye Wrote: Agreed which is why I say Aiga/Hikaru WILL Win. In the preview I just see Achilles and Helios being sandwiched by Lucifer and Hyperion but you never know how this battle will turn out in the end. 

I've 3 strong reasons why Aiga/Hikaru will win this episode on Friday. Be warned this could just spoil your mood for the show and make it way too predictable as this CAN BE a legit possibility. 

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1. Hikaru and Helios never got a chance to shine besides tag teaming and winning Fafnir and Hyperion. I do think this battle we will see Hikaru's shine and his power since Hyuga is considered to be the brother who resonates better and wins somehow. Do note: Helios lost to Lucifer in the tag team cuz Plot armor to show Lean's "power". 


2. Helios breaks in the manga which I mean is pretty much ruined everyone's mood that the trend still continues where main characters' bey breaks and they get evolution. People theorize how Helios will break in this episode. I HIGHLY doubt this and I Object object and object it is WAY TOO EARLY to end Helios. IF Hikaru and Aiga wins, this will enrage Lean a LOT since this will be his First loss in the series he will grow his ego far more of this one loss and once he goes against Hikaru or Aiga we can expect him to just crush them both if not just Hikaru. AND I do believe that point will be around ep 30-35 and Helios breaks around that time. Usually November episodes EP are in the 30-36 mark. 

3. Aiga's beef for Lean is clearly visible he doesn't like Lean because how he ended Ranjiro's career just infruriates him and gets him serious and I do think this is the PERFECT opportunity to satisfy multiple points and develop Lean as a character and Ranjiro probably gets justice.

 

SO with that said I do think Aiga/Hikaru will win this episode. I mean + it's just 1 ep after Achilles' debut they can't make it lose again Satan and Ragnaruk had a different story their owners are just pure weak let's just get that out of the way. Aiga is one of the strongest and it would be a shame if they did decide to do him dirty again. Hyuga just had plot-armor to win.

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Can't I also say that Valt and Shu are recurring characters? I mean they have nothing new going on so they can't be considered in the main cast so does that mean Valt and possibly even Shu lose to Lean? I'm sorry I just clearly object this point. Aiga/Hikaru will win this just watch read my previous post and this could clear up your thoughts. Time will tell. I mean making Lean lose 1 battle could just make him grow a lot as an antagonist in general.

No mid or main antagonist has ever lost to a recurring character before so yes, Lane should definitely be invulnerable to Valt and Shu assuming Valt isn’t part of the main cast for this season (main cast listing for this season was never revealed). I’m sure Aiga and Hikaru have a chance at winning this but not at all because of Aiga but rather because Hikaru, a main character, is participating in the battle.

(Aug. 26, 2020  3:49 AM)Legend Red Eye Wrote: Valt is literally playing a fusion of his roles in GT and Cho-Z. He is the pinnacle of the legendary bladers and he is like the mentor figure somewhat inspiring others but back to what I was saying...I know there are bunch of Valt fans here but let's not forget Valt is still doing the same thing he was doing like 1-2 seasons ago...my question is how is he still in the main cast if he is doing the same thing over?

Besides that Rantaro is just being a mentor which is just like hanging out with a main literally the same thing he has been offered every time the Kiyamas' are introduced "just check up on with the main characters' make sure they are good and play out as like their baby-sitter". Like I mean if I am being honest, and don't take my word on this but his role is just a Sidekick but has a positive connotation on it to make him sound prestigious. Again he seems to be like a recurring character to me. The only characters I see in the main cast are the Bombers, Hyuga/Hikaru parents, Lean, Harry and that's it.

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(Aug. 26, 2020  3:34 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: Well to add my own 2 cents to this discussion; if we look at the  preview carefully we can  see 2 thing that looked interesting to me
1) lane makes that so called signature"demonic face" with his eyes shining
2) we see a shot of helios and achilles going against lucifer AND HYPERION IS ATTACKING THEM FROM BEHIND.
Looking from these two points i believe is that what happens in the tag yeam batlle is that both hikaru and aiga are pushing lean to the limit through their resonance. Suddenly hyuga comes from behind to assist lean in fighting off achilles and helios but lean gets into that"demonic mode" and manages to knock out everyone. THIS I think is the beginning of one of the brothers evil arc (it feels as if HIKARU will turn so cled evil as he has not one any important and has a burning desire to improve)

Though you brought up a point which I was assuming I think it's the other way around I do think Hyuga will go evil with his power Hikaru will be like that Valt figure in Cho-Z who gets his evolution first. (potentially)

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(Aug. 26, 2020  2:25 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Rantaro and Silas are far from weak so I don't think that's a fair assessment. To say you think Aiger will win because of that thought, is unfounded. As far as plot armor is concerned, Aiger has had plenty so if he gets defeated by his own signature plot device, then it will poetic justice of a kind. Keep in mind also that Lean already defeated powerful bladers such as Lui and Free, so if he beats Aiger here, it wouldn't exactly be outside the realm of what he's already done.

Lui and Free are weaker than Aiga. What are the rankings for then? Lui, Free and Aiga's levels are different. Rantaro and Silas are literally on the weaker side of the leg. bladers I was attempting to say that. If you think I'm just focusing on Aiga your wrong. I had only 1 reason which was minor to what the actual progression of Lean could be. Hikaru is the one who is gonna get the shine Aiga will just aid and get avenge Ranjiro. It seems obvious, just 1 loss doesn't mean it's over for Lean. About my points being baseless so what, the point is literally a theory like I said don't take it seriously. Not everything is a fact so I wouldn't just tell others "Oh this will not happen cuz its baseless". Time will tell like I said, it's not confirmed either side who will win so let's just keep it at that.

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(Aug. 26, 2020  2:27 AM)Zeutron Wrote: No mid or main antagonist has ever lost to a recurring character before so yes, Lane should definitely be invulnerable to Valt and Shu assuming Valt isn’t part of the main cast for this season (main cast listing for this season was never revealed). I’m sure Aiga and Hikaru have a chance at winning this but not at all because of Aiga but rather because Hikaru, a main character, is participating in the battle.

If you were to read my points. Most of the progression is centered towards Hikaru and Lean. Hikaru never got the light, this is perfect moment in this arc. Lol just because I added 1 point about Aiga I don't understand why a lot of ppl don't like that. But whatever moving on, your point about "No mid or main antagonist has ever lost to a recurring character" seems a fair point and I would agree too, but this battle could show Aiga winning or losing along with Hikaru. But won't you like seeing Lean lose and growing more as an antagonist? The same way Aiga lost to Hearts and his ego grew on winning? That seems a fair move to me to increase Lean's evilness. I would actually hate if Lean does win this...but I still stand with my theory. You did brought up a good point and I'll give you that.

(Aug. 26, 2020  3:49 AM)Legend Red Eye Wrote: Valt is literally playing a fusion of his roles in GT and Cho-Z. He is the pinnacle of the legendary bladers and he is like the mentor figure somewhat inspiring others but back to what I was saying...I know there are bunch of Valt fans here but let's not forget Valt is still doing the same thing he was doing like 1-2 seasons ago...my question is how is he still in the main cast if he is doing the same thing over?

Besides that Rantaro is just being a mentor which is just like hanging out with a main literally the same thing he has been offered every time the Kiyamas' are introduced "just check up on with the main characters' make sure they are good and play out as like their baby-sitter". Like I mean if I am being honest, and don't take my word on this but his role is just a Sidekick but has a positive connotation on it to make him sound prestigious. Again he seems to be like a recurring character to me. The only characters I see in the main cast are the Bombers, Hyuga/Hikaru parents, Lean, Harry and that's it.

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(Aug. 26, 2020  3:34 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: Well to add my own 2 cents to this discussion; if we look at the  preview carefully we can  see 2 thing that looked interesting to me
1) lane makes that so called signature"demonic face" with his eyes shining
2) we see a shot of helios and achilles going against lucifer AND HYPERION IS ATTACKING THEM FROM BEHIND.
Looking from these two points i believe is that what happens in the tag yeam batlle is that both hikaru and aiga are pushing lean to the limit through their resonance. Suddenly hyuga comes from behind to assist lean in fighting off achilles and helios but lean gets into that"demonic mode" and manages to knock out everyone. THIS I think is the beginning of one of the brothers evil arc (it feels as if HIKARU will turn so cled evil as he has not one any important and has a burning desire to improve)

Though you brought up a point which I was assuming I think it's the other way around I do think Hyuga will go evil with his power Hikaru will be like that Valt figure in Cho-Z who gets his evolution first. (potentially)

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(Aug. 26, 2020  2:25 AM)Admiral W Wrote: Rantaro and Silas are far from weak so I don't think that's a fair assessment. To say you think Aiger will win because of that thought, is unfounded. As far as plot armor is concerned, Aiger has had plenty so if he gets defeated by his own signature plot device, then it will poetic justice of a kind. Keep in mind also that Lean already defeated powerful bladers such as Lui and Free, so if he beats Aiger here, it wouldn't exactly be outside the realm of what he's already done.

Lui and Free are weaker than Aiga. What are the rankings for then? Lui, Free and Aiga's levels are different. Rantaro and Silas are literally on the weaker side of the leg. bladers I was attempting to say that. If you think I'm just focusing on Aiga your wrong. I had only 1 reason which was minor to what the actual progression of Lean could be. Hikaru is the one who is gonna get the shine Aiga will just aid and get avenge Ranjiro. It seems obvious, just 1 loss doesn't mean it's over for Lean. About my points being baseless so what, the point is literally a theory like I said don't take it seriously. Not everything is a fact so I wouldn't just tell others "Oh this will not happen cuz its baseless". Time will tell like I said, it's not confirmed either side who will win so let's just keep it at that.

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(Aug. 26, 2020  2:27 AM)Zeutron Wrote: No mid or main antagonist has ever lost to a recurring character before so yes, Lane should definitely be invulnerable to Valt and Shu assuming Valt isn’t part of the main cast for this season (main cast listing for this season was never revealed). I’m sure Aiga and Hikaru have a chance at winning this but not at all because of Aiga but rather because Hikaru, a main character, is participating in the battle.

If you were to read my points. Most of the progression is centered towards Hikaru and Lean. Hikaru never got the light, this is perfect moment in this arc. Lol just because I added 1 point about Aiga I don't understand why a lot of ppl don't like that. But whatever moving on, your point about "No mid or main antagonist has ever lost to a recurring character" seems a fair point and I would agree too, but this battle could show Aiga winning or losing along with Hikaru. But won't you like seeing Lean lose and growing more as an antagonist? The same way Aiga lost to Hearts and his ego grew on winning? That seems a fair move to me to increase Lean's evilness. I would actually hate if Lean does win this...but I still stand with my theory. You did brought up a good point and I'll give you that.

(Aug. 26, 2020  2:10 PM)Zeutron Wrote:

(Aug. 26, 2020  3:49 AM)Legend Red Eye Wrote: Valt is literally playing a fusion of his roles in GT and Cho-Z. He is the pinnacle of the legendary bladers and he is like the mentor figure somewhat inspiring others but back to what I was saying...I know there are bunch of Valt fans here but let's not forget Valt is still doing the same thing he was doing like 1-2 seasons ago...my question is how is he still in the main cast if he is doing the same thing over?

Besides that Rantaro is just being a mentor which is just like hanging out with a main literally the same thing he has been offered every time the Kiyamas' are introduced "just check up on with the main characters' make sure they are good and play out as like their baby-sitter". Like I mean if I am being honest, and don't take my word on this but his role is just a Sidekick but has a positive connotation on it to make him sound prestigious. Again he seems to be like a recurring character to me. The only characters I see in the main cast are the Bombers, Hyuga/Hikaru parents, Lean, Harry and that's it.

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Though you brought up a point which I was assuming I think it's the other way around I do think Hyuga will go evil with his power Hikaru will be like that Valt figure in Cho-Z who gets his evolution first. (potentially)

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Lui and Free are weaker than Aiga. What are the rankings for then? Lui, Free and Aiga's levels are different. Rantaro and Silas are literally on the weaker side of the leg. bladers I was attempting to say that. If you think I'm just focusing on Aiga your wrong. I had only 1 reason which was minor to what the actual progression of Lean could be. Hikaru is the one who is gonna get the shine Aiga will just aid and get avenge Ranjiro. It seems obvious, just 1 loss doesn't mean it's over for Lean. About my points being baseless so what, the point is literally a theory like I said don't take it seriously. Not everything is a fact so I wouldn't just tell others "Oh this will not happen cuz its baseless". Time will tell like I said, it's not confirmed either side who will win so let's just keep it at that.

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If you were to read my points. Most of the progression is centered towards Hikaru and Lean. Hikaru never got the light, this is perfect moment in this arc. Lol just because I added 1 point about Aiga I don't understand why a lot of ppl don't like that. But whatever moving on, your point about "No mid or main antagonist has ever lost to a recurring character" seems a fair point and I would agree too, but this battle could show Aiga winning or losing along with Hikaru. But won't you like seeing Lean lose and growing more as an antagonist? The same way Aiga lost to Hearts and his ego grew on winning? That seems a fair move to me to increase Lean's evilness. I would actually hate if Lean does win this...but I still stand with my theory. You did brought up a good point and I'll give you that.

Rantaro is definitely in the main cast for this season.

(Aug. 26, 2020  2:12 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:

(Aug. 26, 2020  2:10 PM)Zeutron Wrote: Rantaro is definitely in the main cast for this season.

Watch Rantaro come out with his Meteo L-drago and his MFB remake and then just absolutely demolishing everyone with his spin steal

(Aug. 26, 2020  2:27 PM)g2_ Wrote: Beyblade Burst Sparking is so unpredictable, I love it. I never expected Hyuga to win the battle royal. And honestly I have no idea who's gonna win this one.

(Aug. 28, 2020  2:38 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: By the look of Lane I think Helios my get destroyed.

(Aug. 28, 2020  2:51 AM)Needforspeed Wrote:

(Aug. 28, 2020  2:38 AM)Achilles25 Wrote: By the look of Lane I think Helios my get destroyed.

Spoiler tag bro

(Aug. 28, 2020  2:54 AM)Vtryuga Wrote:

(Aug. 28, 2020  2:51 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Spoiler tag bro

No need it is just speculation. Also I’m excited to see the preview for next episode lol

(Aug. 28, 2020  8:21 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: This basically confirms that Aiga is still world champion

(Aug. 28, 2020  8:17 AM)Needforspeed Wrote: Really cool how hikaru got inspired by aiga

(Aug. 28, 2020  8:21 AM)Vtryuga Wrote: This basically confirms that Aiga is still world champion