World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc.
"Build me a combo!" #2 - Printable Version

+- World Beyblade Organization by Fighting Spirits Inc. (https://worldbeyblade.org)
+-- Forum: Beyblade Discussion (https://worldbeyblade.org/Forum-Beyblade-Discussion)
+--- Forum: Beyblade Customizations (https://worldbeyblade.org/Forum-Beyblade-Customizations)
+--- Thread: "Build me a combo!" #2 (/Thread-Build-me-a-combo-2--88501)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950 951 952 953 954 955 956 957 958 959 960 961 962 963 964 965 966 967 968 969 970 971 972 973 974 975 976 977 978 979 980 981 982 983 984 985 986 987 988 989 990 991 992 993 994 995 996 997 998 999 1000 1001 1002 1003 1004 1005 1006 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1013 1014 1015 1016 1017 1018 1019 1020 1021 1022 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027 1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1033 1034 1035 1036 1037 1038 1039 1040 1041 1042 1043 1044 1045 1046 1047 1048 1049 1050 1051 1052 1053 1054 1055 1056 1057 1058 1059 1060 1061 1062 1063 1064 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 1070 1071 1072 1073 1074 1075 1076 1077 1078 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1084 1085 1086 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1092 1093 1094 1095 1096 1097 1098 1099 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 1106 1107 1108 1109 1110 1111 1112 1113 1114 1115 1116 1117 1118 1119 1120 1121 1122 1123 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168 1169 1170 1171 1172 1173 1174 1175 1176 1177 1178 1179 1180 1181 1182 1183 1184 1185 1186 1187 1188 1189 1190 1191 1192 1193 1194 1195 1196 1197 1198 1199 1200 1201 1202 1203 1204 1205 1206 1207 1208 1209 1210 1211 1212 1213 1214 1215 1216 1217 1218 1219 1220 1221 1222 1223 1224 1225 1226 1227 1228 1229 1230 1231 1232 1233 1234 1235 1236 1237 1238 1239 1240 1241 1242 1243 1244 1245 1246 1247 1248 1249 1250 1251 1252 1253 1254 1255 1256 1257 1258 1259 1260 1261 1262 1263 1264 1265 1266 1267 1268 1269 1270 1271 1272 1273 1274 1275 1276 1277 1278 1279 1280 1281 1282 1283 1284 1285 1286 1287 1288 1289 1290 1291 1292 1293 1294 1295 1296 1297 1298 1299 1300 1301 1302 1303 1304 1305 1306 1307 1308 1309 1310 1311 1312 1313 1314 1315 1316 1317 1318 1319 1320 1321 1322 1323 1324 1325 1326 1327 1328 1329 1330 1331 1332 1333 1334 1335 1336 1337 1338 1339 1340 1341 1342 1343 1344 1345 1346 1347 1348 1349 1350 1351 1352 1353 1354 1355 1356 1357 1358 1359 1360 1361 1362 1363 1364 1365 1366 1367 1368 1369 1370 1371 1372 1373 1374 1375 1376 1377 1378 1379 1380 1381 1382 1383 1384 1385 1386 1387 1388 1389 1390 1391 1392 1393 1394 1395 1396 1397 1398 1399 1400 1401 1402 1403 1404 1405 1406 1407 1408 1409 1410 1411 1412 1413 1414 1415 1416 1417 1418 1419 1420 1421 1422 1423 1424 1425 1426 1427 1428 1429 1430 1431 1432 1433 1434 1435 1436 1437 1438 1439 1440 1441 1442 1443 1444 1445 1446 1447 1448 1449 1450 1451 1452 1453 1454 1455 1456 1457 1458 1459 1460 1461 1462 1463 1464 1465 1466 1467 1468 1469 1470 1471 1472 1473 1474 1475 1476 1477 1478 1479 1480 1481 1482 1483 1484 1485 1486 1487 1488 1489 1490 1491 1492 1493 1494 1495 1496 1497 1498 1499 1500 1501 1502 1503 1504 1505 1506 1507 1508 1509 1510 1511 1512 1513 1514 1515 1516 1517 1518 1519 1520 1521 1522 1523 1524 1525 1526 1527 1528 1529 1530 1531 1532 1533 1534 1535 1536 1537 1538 1539 1540 1541 1542 1543 1544 1545 1546 1547 1548 1549 1550 1551 1552 1553 1554 1555 1556 1557 1558 1559 1560 1561 1562

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Cygnus - Feb. 26, 2012

Or he can change to RF and that should slow it down somewhat.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Draconstein - Feb. 26, 2012

Primal
I only own Hasbro's "Lion's Lair" Stadium, was the only one I could find without grooves in the middle. Thanks for the tip updates.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Cygnus - Feb. 26, 2012

Swap to F then as Primal said. Bull_Frustrated

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Draconstein - Feb. 26, 2012

So MF-H Beat Lynx GB145F works like a charm.

I ended up going with Basalt Bull AD145EWD. For some reason it tends to have more Defense then Stamina. Not complaining though, just thought is was a neat little quirk.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Cygnus - Feb. 26, 2012

Basalt BD145CS would be better for defense. But what you have there is fine for Stamina.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Draconstein - Feb. 26, 2012

I'm hesitant to use my BD145 on anything except Kerbecs. The last time I used it on Basalt, I ended up having to buy a new one (the threading on the inside got thrashed). It's the whole reason I went back to a stock Basalt.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - V-Rock - Feb. 27, 2012

Can someone tell me any good combos with SD?

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - IceBag - Feb. 27, 2012

Anyone tell me a good attk combo for Flash Sagittario?

been trying to figure it out , which is the best part


RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - th!nk - Feb. 27, 2012

th!nk Guides: Crash Course in Combo Finding!

Okay, we get these sorts of questions a lot:

(Feb. 27, 2012  4:28 AM)V-Rock Wrote: Can someone tell me any good combos with SD?

(Feb. 27, 2012  4:39 AM)IceBag Wrote: Anyone tell me a good attk combo for Flash Sagittario?
been trying to figure it out , which is the best part

I'm here to help you learn to answer your own questions like this yourself!

When you have a question like this, first, check if the part is on the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos thread in the advanced forum. If it is, those are the effective parts. Use them. Use Common Sense when choosing these parts. A quick sub-guide to doing so is included, look for the bolded line later in the guide!

If not, use logic or the MFB Parts Tiers List, and see if you can find what it works for on that. Then, use it on whatever is appropriate on the competitive combinations list in place of whatever tips are there.

If it is an unconventional part, such as XF, WF, then search or read the customizations forum for combinations which use it, check what they're tested against to be sure they're recent, and use something like that. Often, combinations using these tips are extremely specific, and must use the exact parts to be worthwhile.
Make sure you have the exact parts, if you don't, and it isn't mentioned in the OP as a viable alternative, search the thread to see if anyone else has asked about substitutes (because odds are they have). Usually, however, unless you have the specific parts, it's better to not use these combinations, as they generally use those parts for good reason!

If it's not listed anywhere, it probably sucks and shouldn't be used, but by looking at the shape/properties, you can probably work out what it's good for. For tips, for example: If it moves fast and has decent resistance to recoil, particularly good grip, attack. If it moves and has lower grip, attack/stamina hybrids or whatever, if it doesn't move and has grip, defense. If it doesn't move and has lower grip, Stamina. Then use an appropriate combination and try it.

Congratulations, you've just used common sense to figure out how to use a part!

You can expand this: look for the properties shared by top-tier parts for a type. Those shared properties will tell you what properties parts for that type should have! Work out what properties your part has, and use it appropriately!

This can be applied to other parts too, using the same process. Check those two threads, and failing that, work out what type they should be. Metal Wheels, for example: lots of protrusions/impact points/non-round shape: Attack. Round, heavy: Defense or Stamina. Round, externally distributed: Stamina).

Then, take the parts for that type from the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combinations thread, and use those for the rest of your combo. Use Common Sense!

An easier way to do this is by finding the testing thread for the part and seeing what combinations have done well!

Quick Guide to Common Sense for Each Type (Click to View)





You will learn a lot by browsing the Customization Forum, and I suggest you make doing so a regular activity, it will help you hugely at tournaments and can give you ideas for new combinations!

Of course, the best combinations are already listed in the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos List, so if you have parts to make those (just remember to use common sense as above. While Phantom Bull BD145SD may be listed technically, it is definitely NOT a good combination!) then you're set!

Also: Check the most recent discussion in that thread, as we will usually discuss good parts that aren't on the list yet there! This is often good for finding newer parts that we haven't fully decided on/managed to put on the list yet, that are likely highly competitive (Diablo is a current example!) For even more information on recent releases, find the Part's discussion thread in the Customization forum, and look at the testing and discussion for it!
It's not really hard, and you will learn a lot in doing so!

Now, Go Build Some Combos and GET BLADING!

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - PhantomX - Feb. 27, 2012

My beys are:

Basalt Horogium
Death Quetz
Gravity Perseus
Earth Eagle
Cyber Pegasus
Phantom Orion
Storm Pegasus
Galaxy Pegasus
Thunder Leone
Thermal Lacerta
Ray Unicorno (CS calm)
Meteo L Drago
Lightning L Drago
Dark Wolf
Storm Aquario
Hell Kerbecs
Dark Bull

For Phantom Kerbecs, is 85 WD better or Ad145WD? For Gravity is D125RF better or 100RF?

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - th!nk - Feb. 27, 2012

Don't use Kerbecs on Phantom, use Aquario if you don't have a Cancer wheel (Cancer is the best CW for it). AD145WD is generally more useful than 85WD.

For defense, use any combination of the following: Death/Basalt Bull/Kerbecs/Quetz BD145 CS/RDF, try to get an MF-H for it.

For attack, your options are more limited, go with Gravity Perseus D125RF/R2F and try to get a Metal Face for it. CH120 would work well there too.

If you get a Cancer as well as an MF-2 set (Dark Cancer is a very, very good beyblade to buy, CH120 is useful for loads of things and Cancer is a great CW), you could even use MF-F Phantom (Attack Mode) Cancer AD145RF. It's a very specific combination but it works quite well, though it struggles against some newer defensive combinations, and you'd probably be better off using Phantom for stamina.






RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - PhantomX - Feb. 27, 2012

Yeah but is GP d125rf better or 100rf

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - th!nk - Feb. 27, 2012

I said D125 in my post for a reason...

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Ozuma-S - Feb. 27, 2012

Please may I have the best combos out of this list? For the hasbro stadium burn firestrike please. I would like all types suggested if possible. Attack,Defense Stamina and Balance.
I have these beys:
Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF
L Drago Destroy F: S
Hell Kerbecs BD145 DS
Flame Byxis 230 WD

I have these spare parts:
HF
T125
Bull
LRF
CH120
HF/S
EDS(Worn out, so practically an Flat performance tip)
RS
Earth
Pegasus II
Lightning
L-Drago (Energy Ring)
FS
R145
145
Gasher
125 (I have 2 125's)
Cyclone
Galaxy
Leone (Energy Ring)
Gemios (Energy Ring)
Lacerta
Aries
Herculeo
Libra
Q
Big Bang
RF
85
Scythe
F
AD145

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Dark_Mousy - Feb. 27, 2012

(Feb. 27, 2012  5:38 PM)Ozuma-S Wrote: Please may I have the best combos out of this list? For the hasbro stadium burn firestrike please. I would like all types suggested if possible. Attack,Defense Stamina and Balance.
I have these beys:
Death Quetzalcoatl 125RDF
L Drago Destroy F: S
Hell Kerbecs BD145 DS
Flame Byxis 230 WD

I have these spare parts:
HF
CH120
HF/S
EDS(Worn out, so practically an Flat performance tip)
RS
Earth
Pegasus II
Lightning
L-Drago (Energy Ring)
FS
R145
145
Gasher
125 (I have 2 125's)
Cyclone
Galaxy
Leone (Energy Ring)
Gemios (Energy Ring)
Lacerta
Aries
Herculeo
Libra
Q
Big Bang
RF
85
Scythe
F
AD145

Since your usin a Hasbro stadium some things change from using a standard attack stadiums. Rubber tips like RF/R2F dont perform as well since its much harder to get a KO in a Hasbro stadium. Flat tips generally do better in Hasbro stadiums.

MF L Drago Destroy CH120/R145 HF/F(attack)
Scythe Gasher AD145 WD(Stamina)
Earth Gasher 230WD
Earth Gasher 85/100 WD
Hell Kerbecs BD145 WD (Boost Mode)
MF H Death Quetz. BD145 RDF



RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Cake - Feb. 28, 2012

Burn Firestrike stadium has 3 small trenches near the center. This causes massive friction when a bey with a tip with any width whatsoever hits one. I recommend using HF/F or RS as a tip, since they are relatively pointy and thin.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - Janstarblast - Feb. 28, 2012

(Feb. 28, 2012  1:44 AM)dude_31415 Wrote: Burn Firestrike stadium has 3 small trenches near the center. This causes massive friction when a bey with a tip with any width whatsoever hits one. I recommend using HF/F or RS as a tip, since they are relatively pointy and thin.

Did we care to read the post by Dark_Mousy on the previous page?
Technically, you are correct about the point on friction; but not completely. Its true that Hasbro stadiums give rise to friction, but come on, every stadium gives rise to friction.
The only reason as to why Hasbro combos differ from TT ones are because of these factors. But before I list them out, remember, there are just Attack combos which need to adapt to Hasbro Stadia. Stamina combos do not need much modification, while Defense may or may not need to adapt.

As these stadiums cause the most amount of problems to Attack types, the list would focus more on Attack-
1. Hasbro stadiums do not have a nice slope to allow Attack types to function properly.
2. Due to the relatively smaller 'play area' of stadiums, Attack types are not favored altogether.
3. As is clear from the two factors above, Attack types aren't favored much. This means that Stamina is the ruling class in Hasbro stadiums; as they outshine Defense, and the only thing that threatens them has been thrown out(attack).
4. The gimmicks (such as the trenches you talk about) suck, and further degrade the performance of beys.

Hence people tend to choose 'Stamina-saving' combos for Hasbro stadiums. This is because, Stamina is EVERYTHING in Hasbro stadia.
So now, Attack types switch from Rubber-based tips(RF/R²F etc.) to plastic ones (F/SF/HF etc.)
Defense types aren't affected that badly in these stadiums. But come on, they have nothing to defend themselves against! There is no (good) Attack! Their grip-based Defense(reference to RS tips) would result in heavy loss of Stamina, which in turn would make them an easy prey for the Stamina types! Not to mention that the Hasbro-friendly Attack types(the ones using plastic Attack tips) might also boast higher Stamina than these Defenders.
So, we may tend to choose better Stamina-saving Defense tips again. Yes, orthodox Defense tips(such as RS) do see use, but not on a large scale, IIRC.
Stamina types do not need an explanation, as they are hardly affected(in a negative way) by this stadium change.

Now back on topic.
You speak of friction. What makes you select something like RS then?
If I am not wrong, you meant to say HF/S there(you certainly won't go on to say that HF or F is Sharp, isn't it?)
Again, your reference to friction was irrelevant. Or even if it was relevant, the explanation was incomplete. Refer to the factors I listed above to know why tips like HF/S should be chosen for Attack.
If you meant to refer to HF/S's S mode(because you said 'sharp' later in your post), then NO! Please don't! S is the worst tip for anything!

All in all, your suggestions were wrong, and even if correct, the reference to friction was irrelevant. Smile

Take care next time! Grin
I recommend you to read the newly written 'Th!nk's Guide to Combo Finding'. Smile

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - DB - Feb. 28, 2012

please help me which combo is better from these
EARTH BULL GB145WD
or
EARTH BULL AD145WD??

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - th!nk - Feb. 28, 2012

Well, one of them is a top-tier stamina setup, other than the MW, which is dated but still decent for stamina, the other is a horrible mismatch.

Use the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos thread to figure out which is which!

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - DB - Feb. 28, 2012

(Feb. 28, 2012  9:56 AM)th!nk Wrote: Well, one of them is a top-tier stamina setup, other than the MW, which is dated but still decent for stamina, the other is a horrible mismatch.

Use the Competitive Metal Fight Beyblade Combos thread to figure out which is which!
the thread which you gave me is of 29 pages though i've read a little can you tell me the exact ???
please thanksStupidStupid


RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - th!nk - Feb. 28, 2012

It's in the first post.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - DB - Feb. 28, 2012

(Feb. 28, 2012  10:03 AM)th!nk Wrote: It's in the first post.
alright EARTH BULL GB145WD is not good
but EARTH BULL AD145WD is a top stamina tierStupidStupid
thanks



RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - th!nk - Feb. 28, 2012

Yes.

Well, Earth Bull AD145WD Isn't top tier, but Bull, AD145 and WD are, and Earth is quite good.

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - S.D.C - Feb. 28, 2012

Alright guys, its that time again. Let's see what you can do. I got my hands on some new parts at a recent meeting plus some more that I have collected from ages ago. I already pretty much have it sorted on what combo's are good but it could never hurt to have some extra opinions. I use a BB-10 stadium, so no combos that work well is Hasbro stadiums please. I would like:
  • Attack Combo x2
  • Defence/Balance Combo x2
  • Stamina/Defence Combo x2
  • Spin Equalizer
Really I just want at least the 3 best beys you can make out of these parts, no overlapping please. Let's see what you come up with...

Spoiler (Click to View)

3...2...1... GO! Build me a Combo's! Tongue_out

RE: "Build me a combo!" #2 - th!nk - Feb. 28, 2012

Defense: MF-H Duo Aquario BD145CS, MF-H Wing Kerbecs BD145RDF/CS (whichever mode is the 0 one).

Stamina: Phantom Cancer TH170D/AD145EWD, Scythe Kronos BD145EDS

Attack: MF-H Blitz UnicornoII 100/D125R2F (get a CH120), MF-H Beat Lynx GB145RF

Spin Equalisers are a waste of time, and you don't have a CH120 for any XF combos. You could try LDrago Guardian BD145EDS or something, and use one of TH170D/AD145EWD on Scythe, or something, but eh.

You could really just use the competitive combos thread and check testing threads for most of this stuff, though.