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RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 23, 2020
I’m pumped for the release. I’m really big into Achilles (still need Z-Achilles, but I’ll get it with Infinite)
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - EarthHelios - Oct. 23, 2020
(Oct. 23, 2020 6:43 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I’m pumped for the release. I’m really big into Achilles (still need Z-Achilles, but I’ll get it with Infinite)
Me too. Even tho they handled Aiga pretty sad. But anyway Im hyped even tho I have my doubts. Will Achilles be good for competitive combos or no?
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 23, 2020
(Oct. 23, 2020 6:45 PM)EarthHelios Wrote:(Oct. 23, 2020 6:43 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: I’m pumped for the release. I’m really big into Achilles (still need Z-Achilles, but I’ll get it with Infinite)
Me too. Even tho they handled Aiga pretty sad. But anyway Im hyped even tho I have my doubts. Will Achilles be good for competitive combos or no?
Like Death/Abyss the ring/chip will probably be competitive due to their shape.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - EarthHelios - Oct. 23, 2020
(Oct. 23, 2020 6:47 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:(Oct. 23, 2020 6:45 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Me too. Even tho they handled Aiga pretty sad. But anyway Im hyped even tho I have my doubts. Will Achilles be good for competitive combos or no?
Like Death/Abyss the ring/chip will probably be competitive due to their shape.
noice. Achilles are one of my top favorite beys
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - marutti - Oct. 24, 2020
RBV probability in Carton
Red Achiles 1/12
Black Achiles 1/12
Dragoon V 1/6
Driger V 1/6
other bey are 1/8
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 24, 2020
(Oct. 24, 2020 2:22 AM)marutti Wrote: RBV probability in Carton
Red Achiles 1/12
Black Achiles 1/12
Dragoon V 1/6
Driger V 1/6
other bey are 1/8
Imagine getting the old gen remakes with the Sword and Shield, but missing the actual Infinite ring itself.
At least it didn't get worse.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - RoscoePColeslaw - Oct. 24, 2020
(Oct. 24, 2020 4:35 AM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Imagine getting the old gen remakes with the Sword and Shield, but missing the actual Infinite ring itself.
At least it didn't get worse.
Infinite o0f
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - bblader/90 - Oct. 24, 2020
I can't wait for somebody customizing Infinite Achilles, something like Infinite Achilles/Quick'-Xtreme'-destroy'/1A.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - SunBlader98 - Oct. 24, 2020
(Oct. 24, 2020 6:50 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: I can't wait for somebody customizing Infinite Achilles, something like Infinite Achilles/Quick'-Xtreme'-destroy'/1A.
I think Zephyr's or Blow'
I get on Oct 26
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - RoscoePColeslaw - Oct. 24, 2020
(Oct. 24, 2020 6:50 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: I get on Oct 26
Dang dude, I ordered from 3.Style, and that typically takes about two weeks. Can't wait to watch everyone playing with their RB22 stuff for two weeks while my newest arrival is still just World
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - g2_ - Oct. 24, 2020
(Oct. 24, 2020 9:29 PM)RoscoePColeslaw Wrote:Dang R.I.P(Oct. 24, 2020 6:50 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote: I get on Oct 26
Dang dude, I ordered from 3.Style, and that typically takes about two weeks. Can't wait to watch everyone playing with their RB22 stuff for two weeks while my newest arrival is still just World
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - UnionAchilles - Oct. 24, 2020
I really like achilles and I think it will be a nice evolution to the beyblade. I can see it being competitive as well.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - bblader/90 - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 24, 2020 6:50 PM)SunBlader98 Wrote:(Oct. 24, 2020 6:50 PM)bblader/90 Wrote: I can't wait for somebody customizing Infinite Achilles, something like Infinite Achilles/Quick'-Xtreme'-destroy'/1A.
I think Zephyr's or Blow'
I get on Oct 26
You know, from what i've seen Infinite Achilles sword mode needs to hit early in the battle. Unfortunately it's not as good as i hoped it to be, at least on stock combo. The Infinite ring + sword mode don't have much power, so i suggested the 2 fastest rubber drivers. If Achilles doesn't hit hard in the first seconds you gotta hope in a spin finish, which is something it rarely does. Infinite can't do anything when it slows down, while Brave Valkyrie and Rage Longinus can over finish the opponent even at low speed. I don't care too much about shield mode, but it seems to be better than both balance and sword ones.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - Zeutron - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 24, 2020 10:00 PM)UnionAchilles Wrote: I really like achilles and I think it will be a nice evolution to the beyblade. I can see it being competitive as well.What looks competitive about it? It’s attack mode is far too smooth from both side and top view and doesn’t have nearly enough recoil for proper aggressive usage so it’s definitely a no go. It’s defense mode likely won’t see much play either seeing as it looks far too defensively oriented and pure defense isn’t really competitive at the moment. balance mode might have some use but it’s not something to have tier 0 confidence in. The real interesting part is the dimension driver with the taller rubber tip.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - AirKingNeo - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 7:12 PM)Zeutron Wrote:(Oct. 24, 2020 10:00 PM)UnionAchilles Wrote: I really like achilles and I think it will be a nice evolution to the beyblade. I can see it being competitive as well.What looks competitive about it? It’s attack mode is far too smooth from both side and top view and doesn’t have nearly enough recoil for proper aggressive usage so it’s definitely a no go. It’s defense mode likely won’t see much play either seeing as it looks far too defensively oriented and pure defense isn’t really competitive at the moment. balance mode might have some use but it’s not something to have tier 0 confidence in. The real interesting part is the dimension driver with the taller rubber tip.
Neutral mode is awful because its underweight. Shield mode is viable because defense IS in the meta actually. If it can wall Rage, it works. Only issue is Tempest likely beats Infinite (Shield) in same spin.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:11 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 7:12 PM)Zeutron Wrote: What looks competitive about it? It’s attack mode is far too smooth from both side and top view and doesn’t have nearly enough recoil for proper aggressive usage so it’s definitely a no go. It’s defense mode likely won’t see much play either seeing as it looks far too defensively oriented and pure defense isn’t really competitive at the moment. balance mode might have some use but it’s not something to have tier 0 confidence in. The real interesting part is the dimension driver with the taller rubber tip.
Neutral mode is awful because its underweight. Shield mode is viable because defense IS in the meta actually. If it can wall Rage, it works. Only issue is Tempest likely beats Infinite (Shield) in same spin.
Nah, just not raw defense. It got to have some stamina behind it to actually be useful seeing as it's mainly attack or defense-stamina hybrids that we see. If it gets unbalanced easily, or just can't outspin anything, it's kinda useless in terms of shaking up the meta.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - Zeutron - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:14 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:Yeah as Valtryek Aoi said the bey needs to have some stamina behind it as pure defense is simply no longer viable. Burst beys have gotten far too heavy for pure defense to pose a threat so what good is countering rage when hybrid stamina and pure stamina combinations will always beat you. And due to the heavy weight the defense combos won’t be able to destabilize the stamina combos either. I guess you have a point on balance mode not being so great but don’t the attachments only add like 2 grams of weight?(Oct. 25, 2020 11:11 PM)AirKingNeo Wrote: Neutral mode is awful because its underweight. Shield mode is viable because defense IS in the meta actually. If it can wall Rage, it works. Only issue is Tempest likely beats Infinite (Shield) in same spin.
Nah, just not raw defense. It got to have some stamina behind it to actually be useful seeing as it's mainly attack or defense-stamina hybrids that we see. If it gets unbalanced easily, or just can't outspin anything, it's kinda useless in terms of shaking up the meta.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - EarthHelios - Oct. 25, 2020
Even though Infinite Achilles looks more or less good in my opinion. I want to know one thing: What mode is the strongest for Achilles.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - TheGolden Blade - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:19 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Even though Infinite Achilles looks more or less good in my opinion. I want to know one thing: What mode is the strongest for Achilles.
Standard.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - Valtryek Aoi - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:19 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Even though Infinite Achilles looks more or less good in my opinion. I want to know one thing: What mode is the strongest for Achilles.
Probably Shield, though maybe Sword could be good for destabilizing opponents or something.
Ngl, this Achilles probably won't change the meta too much. Maybe one or two decent parts.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - Zeutron - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:22 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote:It looks to be a tie between shield and balance in terms of design.(Oct. 25, 2020 11:19 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Even though Infinite Achilles looks more or less good in my opinion. I want to know one thing: What mode is the strongest for Achilles.
Standard.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - EarthHelios - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:22 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 11:19 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Even though Infinite Achilles looks more or less good in my opinion. I want to know one thing: What mode is the strongest for Achilles.
Standard.
ah ok
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:23 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 11:19 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: Even though Infinite Achilles looks more or less good in my opinion. I want to know one thing: What mode is the strongest for Achilles.
Probably Shield, though maybe Sword could be good for destabilizing opponents or something.
Ngl, this Achilles probably won't change the meta too much. Maybe one or two decent parts.
Man I was putting my hopes this Achilles was good but if its gonna be this way then I wont buy it. I just dont like that they gave Achilles the 1B chassis
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - 6Jupiter5 - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:23 PM)EarthHelios Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 11:22 PM)TheGolden Blade Wrote: Standard.
ah ok
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:23 PM)Valtryek Aoi Wrote: Probably Shield, though maybe Sword could be good for destabilizing opponents or something.
Ngl, this Achilles probably won't change the meta too much. Maybe one or two decent parts.
Man I was putting my hopes this Achilles was good but if its gonna be this way then I wont buy it. I just dont like that they gave Achilles the 1B chassis
1B makes it utterly trash. 2B would’ve been better (actually had COVID not been there it might’ve been possible that Achilles would have 2B)
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - EarthHelios - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:38 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 11:23 PM)EarthHelios Wrote: ah ok
Man I was putting my hopes this Achilles was good but if its gonna be this way then I wont buy it. I just dont like that they gave Achilles the 1B chassis
1B makes it utterly trash. 2B would’ve been better (actually had COVID not been there it might’ve been possible that Achilles would have 2B)
And plus how does it make sense to put the 1B chassis on Achilles if it has 4 points/blades 2 sword and 2 shield not 5.
RE: B-173 Random Booster Vol. 22 Infinite Achilles Dimension’ 1B - Logic123ABC - Oct. 25, 2020
(Oct. 25, 2020 11:39 PM)EarthHelios Wrote:(Oct. 25, 2020 11:38 PM)6Jupiter5 Wrote: 1B makes it utterly trash. 2B would’ve been better (actually had COVID not been there it might’ve been possible that Achilles would have 2B)
And plus how does it make sense to put the 1B chassis on Achilles if it has 4 points/blades 2 sword and 2 shield not 5.
It really isn't that weird. No one complained when Shelter Regulus got Star.