(Jul. 08, 2012  8:55 AM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: The reason i didn't quite understand is because he wrote: 'it kept no out spinning'. I got confused with the 'no' in there.

(Jul. 28, 2012  1:17 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: My RDF is extremely calm, i bank it slightly at full power.

(Jul. 28, 2012  8:20 PM)Enzoxs Wrote: Can you test my MF-H Gravity Perseus E230EWD combo against this?

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(Jul. 28, 2012  1:17 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: My RDF is extremely calm, i bank it slightly at full power. 

What?! It self Ko'ed last tournament!

(Jul. 28, 2012  8:27 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: Right, so i did the tests. I only did 10 rounds because of the result so far, so i felt there was no need to go to 20. Here they are:

MF-H Gravity Perseus(STAM) BD145 RDF(Used) (Left Spin) vs. MF-H Duo Aquario BD145 MB (Used)
MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145 RDF: 10 Wins (20 OS)
MF-H Duo Aquario BD145 MB: 0 Wins
Gravity win percentage: 100%

Like i said before i only did 10 rounds due to the result.

(Jul. 28, 2012  8:20 PM)Enzoxs Wrote: Can you test my MF-H Gravity Perseus E230EWD combo against this?

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(Jul. 28, 2012  1:17 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: My RDF is extremely calm, i bank it slightly at full power. 

What?! It self Ko'ed last tournament!

We can test on Monday at the tourney.
There was thick dust/dirt on the tip.

(Jul. 28, 2012  9:46 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: He said he gets victory if he launches gravity weak into the center. I don't get how the launch will make such a huge difference when the beys spin-equalize anyway. It doesn't matter how i launch they will just spin-equalize until the end and gravity will win by about 2-3 rotations. Is your Perseus in the less smoother mode, where its kind of sticking up, i think its counter mode or something like that. Because i recently realized that it spin stills better in that mode.

(Jul. 28, 2012  9:55 PM)Galaxy Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2012  9:46 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: He said he gets victory if he launches gravity weak into the center. I don't get how the launch will make such a huge difference when the beys spin-equalize anyway. It doesn't matter how i launch they will just spin-equalize until the end and gravity will win by about 2-3 rotations. Is your Perseus in the less smoother mode, where its kind of sticking up, i think its counter mode or something like that. Because i recently realized that it spin stills better in that mode.

And I said that I win even if my opponet does a banking or a sliding, haha.
The launch is more than important, Gravity can't steal spins if you repeat my launch. If you don't think so, I suspect that your launch was not the same I usually do.

(Jul. 28, 2012  8:34 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: No it wasn't because of the RDF. TBH i don't even remember using it in the finals.

(Jul. 28, 2012  9:40 PM)Galaxy Wrote: It is really odd.
With that launch I have really different results, as you can see, and also Yamislayer that is the biggest fan of Gravity clearly says that with my technique Gravity has no chance of victory.

(Jul. 28, 2012  4:42 AM)Yamislayer Wrote: i win with duo using this shoot but only if i shoot gravity weak in the center.

(Jul. 28, 2012  10:56 PM)Enzoxs Wrote:

(Jul. 28, 2012  8:34 PM)BeyHyperKiLLer Wrote: No it wasn't because of the RDF. TBH i don't even remember using it in the finals.

Me against you. You were using Lee's Diablo RDF combo to counter my meteo thing. It self KO'ed three times.

(Sep. 25, 2012  4:49 PM)slyx Wrote: so i was messing around with MF-H Gravity Perseus (STAM) BD145 RDF today while waiting for my new lot of beys to arrive. it could consistently OS stamina types above 145 heights and defense combos, no surprise there. but i noticed it had problems winning clearly against W145 based stamina combos and LTSCs, always getting draws and half rotation wins. not satisfied with the combo's performance, i tried banking GP in left spin to get a slightly aggressive movement to see if ko's were possible. while i was able to get the aggressive movement i wanted, all GP seemed to do was brush against the stamina combo, never really getting a clean KO hit. this was when i had my huge moment of epiphany, and switched GP to right spin and banking.

the results were absolutely AMAZING. even with the stamina clear wheel, GP walked all over Death Cygnus W145 WD, Phantom Cancer W145 WD, and Phantom Cancer 85 WD in clean 10-0 shut outs (didn't do 20 because it was so clear that the stamina combos stood no chance)

i think the reason for this is because the same-spin GP combo is actually smashing into the stamina combo instead of pushing it/letting itself be pushed around when it is in opposite spin. i don't have Duo, so if someone could test this combo against Duo Cygnus W145 WD (least recoil, and thus should be the hardest stamina combo to KO) that would be awesome.

if my epiphany leads to a new niche for this GP combo to not only OS HTSCs, defense combos, BUT ALSO KO 145 based and LTSCs, i think that would be a major breakthrough in considering this combo for the top-tier list as well, given it's overwhelming versatility over anything that's not attack. GP still performs pitifully against attack, and that's not going to change unless it magically gets re-released at a 40+g weight xD i kid, i kid.

on the launch: the launch is actually rather difficult to get right, especially so on my rather worn RDF. banking to steeply results in hilarious self KO's in less than 4 seconds, but straight shots don't garner enough movement and speed for a KO.

(Sep. 29, 2012  1:26 AM)Insomniac Wrote: Equalizer/Zombie Comparisons!

Equipment (Click to View)

BB-10
Light Launcher LR
Light Launcher

Conditions (Click to View)

Launches Alternated
Both Beys shot straight
Gravity's launched in Right-Spin with the LL
Dragooon's launched in Left with the L3R
RDF's in good condition
WD's mint
B:D's pretty wobbly
Gravity's mold 3

MSF Revizer Dragooon B:D v. MF-H Gravity Perseus (Stamina Ver.) BD145RDF;
RD: 1 OS
GP: 9 OS
Ties: 6

Gravity's RDF went crazy one round, almost self-KO'd, came back to the center of the stadium with hardly any spin, and tied. lol Dragooon's win was by, maybe, a hundredth of a spin.


MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165(Normal Mode)WD v. MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145RDF;
RD: 0 OS
GP: 10 OS
Ties: 0


I'm not sure if EWD makes that much of a difference, but yeah... I usually prefer MF-L on my Gravity.

(Sep. 29, 2012  5:29 AM)slyx Wrote: thanks for the tests for GP!! i am honestly so happy about these results, because my initial hunch that it could function as a right spin spin stealer to counter dragooon was correct! would you be able to test it against meteo l-drago CH120 WD? i don't have meteo. could you test it for both as a right spin spin stealer and then in left spin to try and KO the meteo combo? if you can't i should be getting my meteo in the next 2 weeks or so, so no worries!

(Sep. 29, 2012  2:58 PM)Insomniac Wrote:

(Sep. 29, 2012  5:29 AM)slyx Wrote: would you be able to test it against meteo l-drago CH120 WD? i don't have meteo. could you test it for both as a right spin spin stealer and then in left spin to try and KO the meteo combo?

Sure, but Meteo wouldn't stand a chance if Gravity were in left. The rubber produces too much recoil, so it'd just end up getting out-spun horribly, or KO'd really quickly, ha ha.

(Sep. 29, 2012  5:41 PM)Ingulit Wrote:

(Sep. 29, 2012  1:26 AM)Insomniac Wrote: Equalizer/Zombie Comparisons!

Equipment (Click to View)

BB-10
Light Launcher LR
Light Launcher

Conditions (Click to View)

Launches Alternated
Both Beys shot straight
Gravity's launched in Right-Spin with the LL
Dragooon's launched in Left with the L3R
RDF's in good condition
WD's mint
B:D's pretty wobbly
Gravity's mold 3

MSF Revizer Dragooon B:D v. MF-H Gravity Perseus (Stamina Ver.) BD145RDF;
RD: 1 OS
GP: 9 OS
Ties: 6

Gravity's RDF went crazy one round, almost self-KO'd, came back to the center of the stadium with hardly any spin, and tied. lol Dragooon's win was by, maybe, a hundredth of a spin.


MSF Revizer Dragooon SA165(Normal Mode)WD v. MF-H Gravity Perseus BD145RDF;
RD: 0 OS
GP: 10 OS
Ties: 0


I'm not sure if EWD makes that much of a difference, but yeah... I usually prefer MF-L on my Gravity.

Those are awesome test results! I do need to say that EWD is actually pretty vital for the Reviser Dragooon combo to work, but that is some great food for thought nonetheless! My launcher broke yesterday so I can't test until a new one comes in the mail, but I'll try that out ASAP. Someone should consider making a thread for it once they do more standarized testing if the test results follow this trend.

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So, I already said this, but someone should consider either making a thread for Gravity BD145RDF or necroing the old thread if it exists since these tests are proving very promising. I actually personally prefer Gravity greatly to Meteo due to its versatility, and I can very much see a custom like that being on a tier list if more testing follows the trend in this thread. If someone makes a new thread or necros an old one they should quote all the posts in this thread about the combo in the other thread since it is very relevant information.