(Jul. 30, 2017  3:35 AM)1234beyblade Wrote: I'm so done with this trash meta game. There's always something else that's broken after one thing has been fixed.

(Jul. 31, 2017  6:24 PM)MonoDragon Wrote: Can you try Maximum Garuda on Accel or Hunter? I want to see how well it can work for Push Attack

(Aug. 02, 2017  6:20 PM)Red Eye Wrote: i would ban atomic and mg why not drain fafnir because every single op stamina combo the is (well at lest most) includes atomic

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TT rlly needs more attack types

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Beyblade burst meta game is trash because the players that spam on stamina all day and tt not releasing enough good attack types to balance the meta game burst will se its end if they release another good stamina type

(Aug. 04, 2017  3:57 PM)Bastillon Wrote: I just find it weird that the most OP parts are only available in random boosters. First Atomic, now Maximum Garuda. And by the way, mG is a completely round layer which has pretty much no weaknesses besides bursting, which is hilarious considering this was almost the exact reason that got D2 banned. While D2 can still be bursted and KOed with relative ease, not to mention that it is slightly unbalanced and can easily break down after about 100 or so launches, mG just seems like a perfect version of D2, while also having only a 1/8 chance of actually obtaining the layer. So yeah, the metagame is pretty much screwed at this point. Maybe someone with lS could burst it on the reg, but it also gets shut down by aC, which is comparable with dF, and we'll need to grab Atomic drivers again.

(Aug. 04, 2017  3:57 PM)Bastillon Wrote: I just find it weird that the most OP parts are only available in random boosters. First Atomic, now Maximum Garuda. And by the way, mG is a completely round layer which has pretty much no weaknesses besides bursting, which is hilarious considering this was almost the exact reason that got D2 banned. While D2 can still be bursted and KOed with relative ease, not to mention that it is slightly unbalanced and can easily break down after about 100 or so launches, mG just seems like a perfect version of D2, while also having only a 1/8 chance of actually obtaining the layer. So yeah, the metagame is pretty much screwed at this point. Maybe someone with lS could burst it on the reg, but it also gets shut down by aC, which is comparable with dF, and we'll need to grab Atomic drivers again.

(Aug. 04, 2017  3:57 PM)Bastillon Wrote: I just find it weird that the most OP parts are only available in random boosters. First Atomic, now Maximum Garuda. And by the way, mG is a completely round layer which has pretty much no weaknesses besides bursting, which is hilarious considering this was almost the exact reason that got D2 banned. While D2 can still be bursted and KOed with relative ease, not to mention that it is slightly unbalanced and can easily break down after about 100 or so launches, mG just seems like a perfect version of D2, while also having only a 1/8 chance of actually obtaining the layer. So yeah, the metagame is pretty much screwed at this point. Maybe someone with lS could burst it on the reg, but it also gets shut down by aC, which is comparable with dF, and we'll need to grab Atomic drivers again.

(Aug. 05, 2017  12:33 AM)Kei Wrote: Atomic and mG are indeed only in random boosters currently (although chances are they will get re-released at some point), but I wouldn't talk about "the most OP parts" being only included in random boosters as if that was the norm. Most good parts are released regularly, and actually many RB parts haven't been that great.

Bursting is a pretty significant weakness though? Based on my experience at tournaments, D2 was not bursted or KOed with "relative ease" by any stretch of the imagination. I haven't had a chance to test mG myself yet, but if TrainiacJ's testing in the Legend Spriggan thread is any indication, it appears as if the weakness mG has to bursting is significant, which is perfect; something that round does indeed need to be burstable. TT was clearly aware of that when designing the part because there's no real teeth and very little resistance when putting it together.

I think people need to step back for a minute and stop hitting the "metagame is screwed" panic button so quickly when something like this has just been released. It's a bit dramatic and not a healthy practice for the community to start instilling this type of attitude towards new parts which are still in the process of being tested (people also haven't even tested mG against Revolve-based combos yet, which is significant) and understood fully. Not saying mG isn't very good by the looks of things, but from what I can tell, it does seem to have clear weaknesses so far.

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:39 AM)Jinbee Wrote: I don't know how well the "Let's wait for a few months before banning it" will work out, it didn't work so well with dF to mG so far.

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:46 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote:

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:39 AM)Jinbee Wrote: I don't know how well the "Let's wait for a few months before banning it" will work out, it didn't work so well with dF to mG so far.

True. Though as for dF, I'm peetty sure Atomic ban would even it out.

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:53 AM)Kai-V Wrote: And we waited almost a year before banning Dark Deathscyther, while the issue was clear upon the first few tournaments after its release...

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:53 AM)Kai-V Wrote: And we waited almost a year before banning Dark Deathscyther, while the issue was clear upon the first few tournaments after its release...

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:21 AM)Bastillon Wrote:

(Aug. 05, 2017  12:33 AM)Kei Wrote: Atomic and mG are indeed only in random boosters currently (although chances are they will get re-released at some point), but I wouldn't talk about "the most OP parts" being only included in random boosters as if that was the norm. Most good parts are released regularly, and actually many RB parts haven't been that great.

Bursting is a pretty significant weakness though? Based on my experience at tournaments, D2 was not bursted or KOed with "relative ease" by any stretch of the imagination. I haven't had a chance to test mG myself yet, but if TrainiacJ's testing in the Legend Spriggan thread is any indication, it appears as if the weakness mG has to bursting is significant, which is perfect; something that round does indeed need to be burstable. TT was clearly aware of that when designing the part because there's no real teeth and very little resistance when putting it together.

I think people need to step back for a minute and stop hitting the "metagame is screwed" panic button so quickly when something like this has just been released. It's a bit dramatic and not a healthy practice for the community to start instilling this type of attitude towards new parts which are still in the process of being tested (people also haven't even tested mG against Revolve-based combos yet, which is significant) and understood fully. Not saying mG isn't very good by the looks of things, but from what I can tell, it does seem to have clear weaknesses so far.

While true, I heavily doubt that mG is as prone to bursting in normal circumstances. If it successfully resists bursting by dF, one of the best stationary burst attack layers right now, then I will expect that mG is at least powerful enough to exist in the metagame without any real resistance besides lS, and most layers would fail to burst it. And I meant D2 being easier to burst and KO in comparison with mG.
Because it's totally fair that almost every single meta combo relies on Atomic, a part currently only available in random boosters, and other people who aren't lucky enough would have to wait for the re-release in customized bey *3 + launcher box (which is way more expensive and has a soon ™ slapped on it) or maybe in another regular booster (lol gl with that). It's pretty much the only reason why I've been stuck in a limbo for so long. I just can't test anything anymore without someone casually throwing around "what about __Atomic?" and stuff, and I pretty much "exiled" myself because I still haven't succeeded in defeating dFSR without the new lS.

(Aug. 05, 2017  2:02 AM)1234beyblade Wrote: Contrary to my other post I actually think mG sucks, just launch harder, mG will lose stamina more quickly than any other stamina bey because of the "aerodynamic" design, it will actually slow it down quicker.  Trypio is an extreme example but if you launch it fast it loses stamina extremely quicky because of the resistance it adds when the air goes directly through the attack ring.  It's time to stop and test Revolve and more attackers k tnx.

(Aug. 05, 2017  2:02 AM)Ultra Wrote: You can get Atomic in the individual beyblade on ebay for $25 shipped right now. If you really can't afford to spend that then beyblade probably isn't the right hobby for you.

(Aug. 05, 2017  2:24 AM)Bastillon Wrote:

(Aug. 05, 2017  2:02 AM)Ultra Wrote: You can get Atomic in the individual beyblade on ebay for $25 shipped right now. If you really can't afford to spend that then beyblade probably isn't the right hobby for you.

You DO realize that not everyone has a credit card right?

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:21 AM)Bastillon Wrote: While true, I heavily doubt that mG is as prone to bursting in normal circumstances. If it successfully resists bursting by dF, one of the best stationary burst attack layers right now, then I will expect that mG is at least powerful enough to exist in the metagame without any real resistance besides lS, and most layers would fail to burst it. And I meant D2 being easier to burst and KO in comparison with mG.

Because it's totally fair that almost every single meta combo relies on Atomic, a part currently only available in random boosters, and other people who aren't lucky enough would have to wait for the re-release in customized bey *3 + launcher box (which is way more expensive and has a soon ™ slapped on it) or maybe in another regular booster (lol gl with that). It's pretty much the only reason why I've been stuck in a limbo for so long. I just can't test anything anymore without someone casually throwing around "what about __Atomic?" and stuff, and I pretty much "exiled" myself because I still haven't succeeded in defeating dFSR without the new lS.

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:39 AM)Jinbee Wrote: I don't know how well the "Let's wait for a few months before banning it" will work out, it didn't work so well with dF to mG so far.

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:46 AM)FIREFIRE CPB Wrote: True. Though as for dF, I'm peetty sure Atomic ban would even it out.

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:48 AM)Jinbee Wrote: Still, opposite spin stamina on stamina is boring.

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:53 AM)Kai-V Wrote: And we waited almost a year before banning Dark Deathscyther, while the issue was clear upon the first few tournaments after its release...

(Aug. 05, 2017  1:55 AM)Jinbee Wrote: Probably delayed the ban because some were probably waiting for something to beat D2 fairly consistently... and we know how well that went.