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RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 09, 2013
(Aug. 09, 2013 4:30 PM)theblackdragon Wrote:(Aug. 09, 2013 3:04 PM)Insomniac Wrote:(Aug. 08, 2013 1:48 PM)theblackdragon Wrote: EDIT #2: Absolutely agree with Insomniac on changing to GCF, but IDK about an offensive wheel :\. If my tests are accurate, a higher recoil wheel might bump its win rates down to 45-50%... but you could go ahead and try.
Another Chrome Wheel than Wyvang might work, but I believe you could easily counter Attackers by launching a little more weakly.
Woah! No wayThe only way to take them out is to tornado stall at full speed... if you weak launch this thing against an attack type, it will die. You have to slam into the attack type at full speed and hope you win out. Weak launching will give the attack type more traction and speed, thus causing you to... shall we say... miserably fail.
Just try it, it's not gonna work... If this is a question of creating a sort of anti-attack type without a rubber tip, then it could work out, but you'd need the lowest recoil wheel possible launched at the highest speed possible... at least from when I've used it.
Ok so I just stick with Revizer?
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Cake - Aug. 09, 2013
Try Wyvang Dragoon E230CF against Dragoon combos... I bet it could beat RDF variants by Tornado Stalling, OS Attack variants, and KO Stamina variants.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 09, 2013
Ok I'll try it out against Phantom Kerbecs AD145WD
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - [)ragon - Aug. 09, 2013
I would stick to reviser... you could try Girago (extremely low recoil wheel), but it may not be enough to KO some popular stamina types. :\
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Snoop Dog MS - Aug. 09, 2013
But then again, does Reviser have the power to KO? Reviser only has Defensive capabilities if you ask me, but on the other hand, Girago, has OK Smash, low recoil, so I think switching to Girago is good.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ocean - Aug. 09, 2013
it has use in stamina too, look at Revizer Dragooon SA165EWD. I also agree with Girago.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 09, 2013
I don't have Girago
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 10, 2013
(Aug. 08, 2013 5:39 AM)AZL Wrote: try this gainst phantom, this combo has potential.Revizer Dragooon E230CF vs Phantom Kerbecs AD145WD
Launched Dragooon first for the first 10 rounds, Kerbecs the last 10 rounds
Dragooon:3/20 (1 OS, 2 KO)
Kerbecs:17/20 (all OS)
Ties redone:3
I had a feeling Dragooon would lose
and I was right😔
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Super%Sayian - Aug. 11, 2013
aren't these tests not valid since it was with a ripcord?
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 11, 2013
Oh? Well sorry, when I use my string launcher my launches are SUPER weak!!T.T
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 11, 2013
(Aug. 08, 2013 6:03 AM)ryukiba Wrote:(Aug. 08, 2013 5:57 AM)Ingulit Wrote: Hey, this is pretty cool! It is certainly a heavy custom (heavy enough to counteract a lack of a rubber tip, it appears), and I love the thought to use CF to enable it to OS right-spin attackers! If we could get some benchmarks that'd be awesome, and tests against Flash and Wyvang would not go unappreciated
Thanks
I just got done with the benchmark, Balro^2 vs Wyvang^2 it's in the OP
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - 6 God - Aug. 11, 2013
Can you test vs. Balro Balro tr145/r145/w145/gb145 MF? IIRC Balro kills e230 something with more stamina could possibly OS it. Since its kind of a Balro counter it would be helpful to test against all Balro combos.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 11, 2013
Ok I'll start on it right away!
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 11, 2013
(Aug. 11, 2013 3:28 AM)Kyler_the best Wrote: Can u test vs. Balro Balro tr145/r145/w145/gb145 MF? IIRC Balro kills e230 something with more stamina could possibly OS it. Since its kind of a Balro counter it would be helpful to test against all Balro combos.
I was able to test it against Balro Balro W145MF. It's in the OP. Tomorrow I'm going to test it out against Balro Balro GB145/CH120 MF
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - ShinobuXD - Aug. 12, 2013
I tested this the other day, except with Girago.
Standard Procedure
Pretty worn RDF
E230 in Upper Mode
Wide Sweeping launch with Girago.
Girago Dragooon E230 CF vs Revizer Revizer BD145 RDF
Girago: 7 KO
Revizer: 3 OS
Girago Win Rate: 70%
Can someone please verify this? Btw don't bother to test if you can't do the launch I used, because with sliding shoot, it will lose every time.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - [)ragon - Aug. 12, 2013
Destabilize to KO huh? I'll probably try it later today...
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 12, 2013
(Aug. 12, 2013 1:53 PM)ShinobuXD Wrote: I tested this the other day, except with Girago.Wow cool tests!
Standard Procedure
Pretty worn RDF
E230 in Upper Mode
Wide Sweeping launch with Girago.
Girago Dragooon E230 CF vs Revizer Revizer BD145 RDF
Girago: 7 KO
Revizer: 3 OS
Girago Win Rate: 70%
Can someone please verify this? Btw don't bother to test if you can't do the launch I used, because with sliding shoot, it will lose every time.
thanks for testing this out! I'd really like to try this out but I don't have Girago, I might get it soon though
anyways these are good results with Girago Dragooon!
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - [)ragon - Aug. 13, 2013
Uh, I couldn't reproduce that
I got Reviser millimeters away from a KO several times, but it barely slipped back in and won by OS. :\
Girago Dragooon E230CF vs. Reviser Reviser BD145RDF
Reviser launched first on all launches. Slightly worn RDF.
Dragooon: wins, 3/10 (2 KO, 1 OS)
Reviser: wins, 7/10 (All OS)
Girago Dragooon E230CF win rate: 30%
Sorry for ten rounds
I was in the middle of something at the time... IDK why I couldn't get it to KO.Wide sweeping launch, right? I got it unbelievably close to a KO a bunch of times, but RDF slid and BD145 scraped and kept it barely inside just before it rolled over the edge.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - ShinobuXD - Aug. 13, 2013
Huh. That's odd. Part of it could have been my RDF(it's fairly worn). I'll see if I can film a few rounds soon too, so you guys can see how I'm KOing.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ryukiba - Aug. 13, 2013
Those are some cool tests!
thanks for testing this ShinobuXD and theblackdragon ya'lls test results are different but it shows that Girago is a pretty good chrome wheel for this combo! thank you
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Super%Sayian - Aug. 13, 2013
try the same combo but with 230 on I mean E230 isn't good against the opposite spin direction
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Snoop Dog MS - Aug. 13, 2013
Uh... no offense but why? E230 is very good against opposite spin... 230 would just make the combo worse... but I shouldnt talk, I should get testing! Any testing requests?
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - ShinobuXD - Aug. 13, 2013
Actually any 195+ is horrible against opposite spin, except F230.
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Ocean - Aug. 13, 2013
I was always thinking about Revizer Dragooon F230CF, I could've gotten an F230 but I didn't.
I wonder what Girago Dragooon F230CF would do?
RE: Revizer Dragooon E230CF - Yuko Ray14 - Aug. 13, 2013
Girago Dragoon F230GCF/CF is a great combo *cough* my combo *cough* but we should stick to this combo and not deviate toward different combos, plus this combo serves a completely different purpose that Girago Dragooon F230GCF/CF.